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An Open Letter to Jemima Khan

Farzana Versey July 20, 2004

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#46 Posted by solitude on July 21, 2004 7:38:22 am
Ms. Whatever,

The British papers can talk about Jemima because she is rich and she is hot and she is BRITISH.

You are none of the above and on top of that your only function is come to a Pakistani board and to suck up to the Islamic fundamentalists in Pakistan on basis of communalism and religion.

If you hate the British and ``White`` people so much, why bother with writing trash in English? You may as well write it in Arabic or whatever your language is (Gujurati was it?)

Really, if you feel some Pakistani is going to pay attention to you then trashing Jemima and the British is not the way to go (it will work with the Islamic fundamentalist). Try a little less potty talk. Ladies don`t talk about EVERYTHING (its a little too much information, you know) and there is no gratuitous point to it.

If you have a brown skin complex going try a little going in front of the mirror and saying to yourself ``I am pretty and I am worthy of being loved by a Pakistani``. I am certain that will work wonders after a few decades.

Stop attacking some woman who you are not in the same league with by a million miles.

You are attacking Pakistani women by attacking Jemima. We adopted her as our own and we are with her in her decision to dump that feudal lord of a born again fundamentalist Imran Khan. Where do you come in? You come in as an excellent choice of propagandist for Mullah Omar. That is why when you don`t know shite about a country don`t try to cozy up to it on basis of ``Muslaman Musalman Bhai Bhai``. Osama tried it and look where it got him.

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#45 Posted by kb on July 21, 2004 7:38:21 am
well, I would like to ask writer how much interaction she has/had with Jemima Khan
and also it`s Imran Khan`s personal issue, isn`t it?
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#44 Posted by rahulmal on July 21, 2004 7:38:21 am
einstein,

Not fair yaar!! Kyon le rahe ho bechaari ki :-)
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#43 Posted by warpster on July 21, 2004 7:38:21 am
Where is MBZ when we need him?
Havent seen his posts in a while. My favorite chowkie, by far.
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#42 Posted by warpster on July 21, 2004 7:38:21 am
#35

Einstein: Your considerable talents are urgently required for the ``Is human cloning evil?`` article.
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#41 Posted by gujju1 on July 21, 2004 7:38:21 am
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#40 Posted by hamidm2 on July 21, 2004 7:38:21 am
....... i just got back from pakistan and don`t remember anyone talking about jemima and that old fool, imran khan ........ everyone is too busy plotting to buy and sell plots in the defence societies and lining up at pizza hut at midnight for a slice of the good life ...........

......... but what was he thinking - the senile old fool - marrying a woman half his age?.......... maybe, if he had a serious shot at becoming prime minister she might have hung in there for the pomp and glamour .......... afterall, queen noor did stick around with an ugly midget and sonia put up with a witch and her buffoon of a son ............. why would a good looking gal like her, with millions of pounds in the bank, stick around lahore after she has been to food street a couple of times?............ love?.......... get real!
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#39 Posted by Urstruly on July 21, 2004 7:29:27 am
malik

I asked her the reason for such indignation, and she replied ``ainee dair naal jay aye o``

To that I said ``naeeN koi dair naeeN hoi, Qazi sahib ajay aithay hi ne, bulawaN unhaN nu?``.

After that sialkot was good.
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#38 Posted by FarzanaVersey on July 21, 2004 1:10:53 am
Thanks for the comments.
1. This is indeed the version that was published in TFT; since I was not at my computer when I submitted it I in fact copy-pasted it from the site itself.
2. This is not pro or anti Jemima. There are several issues being talked about...if you can find them, great. If not, then it is still a decent read :)
3. Yes, divorces happen. No big deal. Which is why the press should not have bothered...which is why I wrote an open letter and not a pontificating opinion piece.
4. People need not remind me of my nationality. Especially those who claim not to care about such minor issues, who call themselves global citizens and atheists and whatnot...these are the ones most obsessed with such matters. I do hope they have dashed off letters to the Guardian, Speccie, Independent, International Herald tribune, The Sun, Daily Telegraph and who knows how many others remjnding the writers about their nationality. After all, this is a Pakistani issue. And Jemima did everything to fit in. (Just acnnot understand why an Indian cannot comment on whatever s/he wants. And then they say I am looking for Pak approval....what a hoot.)

These people who live in cuckoo land need to truly cast their eyes down and take a good hard look at themselves and their pitiable little...err....excuses, for want of a more polite word.

PS: To the one who made a certain comment, there is no need to go soft on me for the reasons you mentioned. My words are my calling card...all else is part of a package :)
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#37 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on July 21, 2004 12:48:28 am
#35 by einsteinwallah

Thankyou for wasting your time for my correction.

Please do the correction of above as well if needed...
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#36 Posted by Bina_Shah on July 21, 2004 12:09:18 am
Was this the original version published in Friday Times? I remember reading it there but it seems like they edited part of it out? or am I mistaken?
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#35 Posted by harish_hyd on July 21, 2004 12:09:18 am
#30 by malik99

[Having grownup in a house where my mother routinely referred to me with this phrases, i can attest to that.]

You mean to say the girl addressed Urstruly in a motherly manner?
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#34 Posted by mog on July 21, 2004 12:09:18 am
All this is fine but does anybody know what happened to those interesting honeymoon photos then?
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#33 Posted by einsteinwallah on July 21, 2004 12:09:18 am
[#7 by Nadia_Zehra on July 20, 2004 9:58am PT
* * *
Whenever a persons says I have adopted Islam after studying or seeing her beloved god knows the truth, I always doubt a bit in 21st century...

Did Imran Khan failed to Islamicize his wife. * * *

Farzana you are arguing little Jemima for so much or you are showering her with all dimensions which she couldn`t have known to...or was not able to coup with or someone else showed cowardness or was it a deal???
Well She have farewelled for what she couldnt do...now we cant debate any conclusion...

She is not a scale for East West culture contradictions...

Lets assume it their personal level... * * * ]

Nadia_Zehra,

Your English is very bad in more than half of what you have written. But still I could understand some of it with some effort. In the above quoted text (enclosed within brackets: []), from what you wrote I have deleted words which I could understand. Would you mind rewriting this text again? May be you can show it to some English language expert before posting it.

I am translating your text below as I understood with some comment on parts that I did not understand.

You wrote: ``I had in my sixth sense since their marriage thats its not going to work for so many reasons... ``

My translation: ``I knew all along by my sixth sense that their marriage is not going to work for so many reasons... ``

You wrote: ``Whenever a persons says I have adopted Islam after studying or seeing her beloved god knows the truth, I always doubt a bit in 21st century... ``

My translation:

You mean either of following two:

One.
``Whenever a person (not persons which is plural) says she has (I am replacing `she has` for `I have`) adopted Islam after studying or seeing her beloved, then I doubt it. Only god knows the truth, I always doubt a bit in 21st century... ``

Two.
``Whenever a person says she has adopted Islam after studying or seeing her beloved god (means, Imran), knows the truth (this ``knows the truth has ``subject`` Jemima), I always doubt a bit in 21st century anyone who says such thing... ``

(Note: Subject means the thing which does an action specified in verb. As an example: Nadia ate lunch. Nadia is subject and ``ate`` is verb which specifies action, and last word is object.)

You wrote: ``Did Imran Khan failed to Islamicize his wife. Would she turn away from Islam for her next marriage? Would be interesting to know... ``

My translation: ``Did Imran Khan fail to Islamicize his wife? (replaced fullstop ``.``) Would she turn away from Islam for her next marriage? Would be interesting to know... ``

You wrote: ``Farzana you are arguing little Jemima for so much or you are showering her with all dimensions which she couldn`t have known to...or was not able to coup with or someone else showed cowardness or was it a deal??? ``

My translation: ``Farzana either you are arguing so much hard with Jemima for her so little fault or you are showering praise on her for having all dimensions in her character (added to make clear, may be you mean something else?) which she couldn`t have ... Either she was not able to cope (I replaced `coup` the wrong word with `cope`) with or someone else showed cowardice (replaces ``cowardness``) or was it a deal??? (I completly miss you here. Do you mean `amicable separation` when you use word `deal`?)

You wrote: ``Well She have farewelled for what she couldnt do...now we cant debate any conclusion... ``

My translation: ``Well she said farewell (to Pakistan) because she couldnt make her marriage work...now it is useless to debate what she thought about this or that... (it is all over and it is too late now)``

You wrote: ``She is not a scale for East West culture contradictions... ``

My translation: ``Her divorce is not a typical ``model divorce`` of an east-west couple from which we can learn anything about East West culture contradictions... `` (You probably wanted to use hindi/urdu word: tarajoo which means scale. Or probably you meant yardstick? A smaller stick is used by school students to draw straight lines. Did you mean that?)

You wrote: ``Lets assume it their personal level...She could be a lot better now..Lets hope for her better future... ``

My translation: ``Let us see from her personal perspective/level...She will be a lot better now..Lets hope for her better future... ``

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#32 Posted by cipram on July 21, 2004 12:09:18 am
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#31 Posted by Garam_Chai on July 20, 2004 10:00:12 pm
solitude #26
If you had a little respect for your mother and sister, you would not use such vulgar language against a woman. More than anything else, it shows your own frustration.
Take it easy, dude.

Farzana
I read your articles many times. I think you have a very beautiful, intelligent mind, and your observations are very minute. I wish i had such good composition.

General Note:
Imran khan is a very honest, and sincere person. His cancer hospital in lahore offer free treatment for poor people. He finished a task that actually help other people, which is great. I think such efforts are far better than writing high thoughts or criticizing others, which does not improve any human conditions. I think we need to talk less, and do more.
Imran`s divorece is his personnal matter, and we need to note that i did not harm anyone.
Long live Imran Khan.

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