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Chain of Command

Nighat Yasmeen July 24, 2004

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#11 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on July 25, 2004 2:51:57 pm
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#10 Posted by Urstruly on July 25, 2004 8:47:35 am
yahya khan was another eunuch. H-Iram there is no hope unless you and me do something.
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#9 Posted by Urstruly on July 25, 2004 8:46:26 am

H- Ikram

Too late, we already have an eunuch general
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#8 Posted by H-Ikram on July 25, 2004 7:38:44 am
Eunuch General

I think I have cracked the code and found the ultimate answer. Here comes the solution to Pakistan’s countless problems.

Please, observe.

We have tried both male and female prime ministers representing a wide range of IQ, political colours and inclinations, religious rigidity, professions, ages, anatomical dimensions and social backgrounds, without any success.

We have had land-owning feudal, urban industrialists, leftist intellectuals, lawyers as well as professional politicians as [nominal] head of governments – still nothing remarkable to show. Likewise, neither engineered heavy mandate nor genuine electorate approval could give Pakistan much needed stability.

Similarly, from obsequious non-entities like Jamali to maverick Nawaz Sharif to gentleman Junejo to rudderless Benazir Bhutto, none have thus far succeeded satisfying the concerned quarters and met the same fate.

Where shall we go from here? What options are we left with? What more can be done?

Well, as far as gender is concerned we have yet to try a member of the third sex. And among vocational qualifications the only remaining section left to take this (dis)honour is the upper strata of the military.

Thus, why shouldn’t we try a eunuch this time? Or a serving four-star general? To be on a safe side, and to kill two birds with one stone: why not a eunuch general? The key to salvation seems to lie in trying this last alternative. No other way out.
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#7 Posted by HP on July 25, 2004 7:38:07 am

#1 by sameerJB
“I think he will appoint himself supreme commander and promoting himself to Field Marshal. I hope I am wrong.”

I am telling you now that you are wrong!

I think you are a still missing a thing or two about the army in Pakistan. The real power is in COAS hands. The minute Mushy gives up that post; he is just another civilian who will be president until the COAS allows it. Field Marshall or Supreme commander stuff has no value in the Pakistan army. Ayub was Field Marshall and he was kicked out by his own hand picked General Yahya Khan. Zia knowing that never gave up COAS position until he was physically removed by CIA or KGB. We don’t know for sure yet.

About this article, I am kind of leery of this kind of pinhead rants. The reality is that the Mush is the President and the COAS and what difference does it make whether you call him one or not.
If one wants to rant against the army they need to analyze the army role in Pakistan politics and come up with some suggestions as to how it can be reduced or eliminated. This kind of fumes belong on JI type of literature, where solutions are scarce but cussing aplenty.


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#6 Posted by Subedar on July 25, 2004 7:38:06 am
Honest & Patriot Generals

NA informed about agro plots` transfer
By Arshad Sharif
http://www.dawn.com/2004/07/24/nat11.htm

ISLAMABAD, July 23: The record pertaining to an agricultural plot transferred in the name of President Gen Pervez Musharraf in the federal capital`s rural area was placed before the National Assembly on Friday.
The latest information placed before the lower house of the parliament by the interior ministry revealed that the five acres agriculture plot was transferred in the name of President Musharraf on September 4, 2003, by Mrs Riffat Jamil, widow of the late Jamil Nishtar.
The interior ministry while responding to a question by MNA Hanif Abbassi of the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) told the House that the agriculture plot number C-1/B, P&V Scheme-II, Park Road, Tarlai Klan, Chak Shahzad was transferred in the name of Gen Musharraf.
The market value of the plot is estimated in millions and this is an addition to the assets declared by President Musharraf in November 1999. The property declared by the President in 1999 included a house in Army Housing Scheme, Karachi; another 2000 square yards in DHA, Karachi, two kanals in Morgah Housing Scheme, Rawalpindi; one-and-a-half kanal in Army Welfare Trust Housing Scheme, Peshawar; eight marlas in LCCHS, Lahore; and two-square agriculture land in Bahawalpur (now sold).


NA questions land deals by Musharraf and ISI DG
By Zulfiqar Ghumman
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_24-7-2004_pg1_4

ISLAMABAD: General Pervez Musharraf bought a five acre plot of farmland while a former DG-ISI sold 5 acres of farmland in Islamabad in 2003-04, according to details provided by the Interior Ministry in the National Assembly on Friday. The name of the DG-ISI was missing from the list, promoting opposition members to criticise the interior ministry for deliberately fudging the issue. No market values were quoted in the National Assembly but property dealers in Islamabad told Daily Times that the 5-acre plot bought by General Musharraf was worth about Rs 4 crores today while the value of the two plots sold by the DGISI was about Rs 10 crores.
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#5 Posted by ferozk on July 25, 2004 12:31:38 am
re: Nighat Yasmeen

``The hapless citizens of the land of pure may have no civilized means to kick him out but they certainly can deny him the much-cherished legitimacy``

The above mentioned will only happen if the civilian politicans refuse to give the army legitimacy it seeks and the judicary and bureauracy in Pakistan refuses to accept the legality of the military rule.

Ciao
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#4 Posted by 1saurabh on July 24, 2004 10:10:35 pm
Pakistan is a classic case of a failed state. Its military rulers have ruined the state. Their only objective was to rule the country as long as possible. To achieve this, the India bogie came handy for all of them. I believe the Pakistanis hated India more than they loved Pakistan. The Pakistani rulers did not allow any democratic institutions to function in the country. The result has been perpetual military rule and confrontation with India. The Pakistani rulers failed to inform the general public that India can afford confrontation with Pakistan but pakistan cannot afford to continue this much longer. In fact, confrontation with Pakistan has united Indians of all communities towards a common enemy.

As far as Musharraf shedding his uniform is concerned, it does not matter whether he does this or not. Pakistanis will continue to be ruled by a military dictator.

regards
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#3 Posted by ijaz_gul on July 24, 2004 8:39:13 pm
As excellency mentioned in his comments/ conspiracy theory on Ferzoks , there are dangerous times ahead. Maybe the next one month or so.
cheerios
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#2 Posted by asadm on July 24, 2004 7:12:15 pm
Soon after taking power Musharraf removed all the general`s who made him CEO of Pakistan Inc.
Pakistan is a borderline banana republic we have a General who likes strutting around in boots and commando gear the only thing missing is the cigar, a yes sir parliament, a legal wizard who has shred the constitution, a Choudhry, an Arbab who got 110% votes in the most backward area of Pakistan and an ambitious banker. The ``moderate and enlightened`` of Pakistan have embraced him which is perhaps the most revolting thing. I can never understand why do we let idiots rule us.
He has no legitimacy he has no constituency the only thing he has is the backing of the world`s biggest idiot and half a million armed men.
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#1 Posted by SameerJB on July 24, 2004 5:02:18 pm

Brillianty put! At least there is one more person besides me who does not consider Musharraf COAS or President as a matter of principle. He is unlawfully COAS and President. But unlike you, I would not have voted for him over other politicians based on his record about Kargil episode, derailing peace process, manipulation of the system to his advantage and relying on the worst from a crop of bad politicans. His choice of governors, even before creating political support were below average leaving behind no legacy. The Punjab government was basically non-existent before the election of Pervaiz Elahi. So he basically found worst politicans and below average non-politicians prior to farcical democratic exercise despite 2 years and all the might he had.

Now he is being touted and credited for bringing Shaukat Aziz, when in fact he did not even know Shaukat Aziz when selecting him upon the advice of creditors. Shaukat Aziz was a known Nawaz Sharif loyalist, a relative of Sartaj Aziz and befriended with NS during his USA visits. Shaukat Aziz did nothing until good fortune of post 9/11, helped Pakistan economically.

I think he will appoint himself supreme commander and promoting himself to Field Marshal. I hope I am wrong.
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