A Visit to My Hometown Kakori in Lucknow

just gr8..i am working on a book ``india under raj`` if you have something historical about your home town plz contact me...

Shams Sb.

Really interesting, my interest has doubled because my family is also from Kakori. Other that my paternal grand father, all of my grand parents were from Kakori. We still have relatives their and as a child I had visited the place several times. My I ask where was your ancestral home, my father’s was Tartala.

For the readers there are couple of other interesting things. Kakori was not only famous for “Kakori Dacoit case”, but also as a center of learning – not to mention the Kakori kabob ( I think these are similar to Chapli kabab ).

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re:#18 by echoboom
If average Indians fantasize on Bollywood movies, it is better than jerking off with Qoran in one hand and dick in the other, as most Pakis do. And, they do it watching Bollywood movies!
Sridhar

#12: You sure do :) Lately, I have not come across any hansel and gretel stuff from your end.

[ but to remind myself that for each place that burns with communal hatred, there are thousands of Kakoris all over India, spreading its message of love, amity and brotherhood silently and much more effectively.]

I am sure the other side of the border can learn a lot from the sentiments expressed at the end of this memoir-cum-travelogue.

stuka:
Many classic poems are turned into film songs. Bismil`s song was actually said to be quite popular among revolutionaries of the British period.
Another song from Majaz, mentioned in this article, also became a very popular song of its time. It was ``Ae gham-e-dil kya karoon, ae vehshat-e-dil kya karoon``. It was a communist poet`s lament about the false celebrations following India`s independence. It`s one of my all time favourites by Talat Mehmood.

[#3 by stuka on August 3, 2004 12:20pm PT

I had no idea that this poem was wriiten by Bismilji. It is famous as a Hindi movie song. ]

Movie is Manoj Kumar starrer Shaheed which tells the story of Shaheed Bhagat Singh.

jang and soysauce:
Good ribbing guys and some tickling too.:)

Are Satyaji Ray, Syam Benigal, Ravinder Jain, Ilyarajaa, and Yesudaas Indian? Please give names of some others as welll so that I can search if they are also getting pirated.

Urstruly:1

Heend is perhaps the only spice, in the array of spices India is famed for, which has alien origins. It is Irani. I wonder if it is used in Iranian foods as much.

The other one is the green & red pepper. Never existed in the old world before 1492.

Urstruly:19

Yep. The difference is that the Pushto movies you are alluding to receive the blessing and nudge-nudge-winks-winks from our promotion of vice and preventer of virtue bigade viz. The same moderate, liberal, secular, atheist, commies, progressives etc clans [They all are cousins]. They quip`` We all have mothers and daughters too, and one day if our (moderate) god is our witness they will actualise such dreams too. We are serious about womens` rights``.

If you recall such movies are shown under police protection and the remote-masters (US)want a report after each performance. Who knows what else Mushharraf and shaukat aziz types have to offer to get a nod of approval from their Aquaa and maee-baab.

One can only fantasize.;)

note to myself: must support prohibition of film piracy. urs and echo are wacthing way too many hindi movies and must extract zakat on these.

whats this to do with Oudh unless you are discussing umrao-jan or shatranj-ke-khiladi?

#18 echoboom:
No poor person wants to see a movie about poor people staying poor. Movies sell fantasies. Those who don`t have to dream -mostly rich people & communists ;) - can & do see Satyajit Ray.

Echo

Yep. That pretty much is it all about Indian movies. However, since I do not have a first or even second hand experience of Indian culture, therefore, I do not know how accurate your commentary on social aspects is. I would view Indian culture thru my eyes and thru the glasses of prejudices. For example, what we consider as Kanjar-pun or something that only mirasi do i.e. dancing, singing, and music is a part of their daily life and as far as I know is their religious thing as well. If that is so, then I don`t think that practicing these things in their daily life should leave a harmful effect on their moral character according to their moral standards. So if such values are depicted in their movies then they might be of the opinion that it would not effect their sovial and moral character. In other words, their movies are in sync with their moral standards. We, however, cannot ignore the factor of `fantasy` in the movies, but it is a universal trait isn`t it. If we accept that a fantasy is usually an unfulfilled desire then Indian film-makers are selling just what market demands. Fantasy directs our conscience and unconsciously and conscieously we choose paths in our lives that will help us turn that fantasy into a reality or anything close to that. So Indian film-makers are selling dreams and Indian nation may be treading towards achieving those dreams.

As compared to them when I see our pushto movies and see what kind of dreams our film directors are selling to us, it gives me heebee jeebees. A 300 pound heavy pathani actress in a fur bikini doing bhangra, on a park bench, shot from under the bench, is not the kind of fantasy I wanna have. Thank you very much.

Urstruly:17

Todays Indian-movies is as much Indian as curry is an english dish.

Following this will save you a lot of time in understanding Indian-movies. It is an industry, a commerce. If presenting Indians as strippers-in-waiting raises the GNP also then why not. Just do not call it pimping of India.

India has zero poverty. The movies tell us that.

1) In first 10 minutes one is told what the boy does [Accountants are never heroes--always remember this] Doctor Lawyer factory-owner [seldom engineer] Police-officer never sipahi),Army-officer ( never sipahi), westernised kaalij-boy (never from dharmsaala, paatshalaa, or madressa)

2) Is shown going to clinic, court, factory [ or wherever he works] `` Maan mein shaam tuk [court , clinic, etc] sey ghar aajaaooN gaa. only once during the first 10 mts.

3) The language or jargon of the profession will only be utilised in these first 10 mts and the last 30 mts. [ mi laard, and `case naazuk hai, sudmaa pohnchaa hai` etc]. Otherwise the lingo for the hero is weternised trailer-trash throughout the in-between the above. Everyone speaks in the same Mmbayya- --hindi usually associated with the uncultured unrefined but moneyed-types[ Ismailies, marvaries etc] the market-place lingo.

4) The baa-jamaa`at song and dance is an attempt to show that nothing can keep India poor and starving..dream sequences, fantasies, must-travel situations [ ``too bahhar chalaa jaa, dil behlaa``]. This is the opium of the classes which the progressives (read: commies, secularists, marxists, liberals, atheists] and such downtrodden in mind and matter ooh and aah about.

5) suddenly the heroine realises that the hero has already tasted western forbidden fruit and realises that the woman who offers herself as a gutter is not fit to bear his children. This makes her suddenly switch attire and put on an occasional bindi. From hereon it is the Indian dress and Indian food. Future saas gets the attention.The modern Indian hero is ready to raise the population of future movie-goers.


6) Censorship is of two kinds. One of editing and the other of moral (or immoral) suasion. During BJP days or Thhakeray`s nudging-edicts, almost every movie would have a mandir or jai-malaa scene before the consummation act. Darrhee vaalaa muslims are either as baddies with one exception thrown in as a side-kick to reinforce the glorius prm-praa.
Darrhee vala sardaars are always for comic relief and `` having fun means leaving brain behind , mauj urrao, khao peeyo and bhangraa pao`` characterisation [ never about their agriculture/indurstial achievements]

7) The whole idea behind such ventures is ``Look! We are not kanjars because our english is strong and our hindi is weak.OK?``

The only thing I find intriguing about India is the question how the people in India move about, I mean with so many billions of people crammed in such little place, don`t they trample on each other. And how does the traffic move with 500-1000 dancers dancing in the streets all the time, as shown in your movies. I guess India has a lot of flyovers and underpasses or traffic engineers are doing an incredible job. One thing I am sure of is that I am not going there to find that out.

Nice, but strangely unsatisfying!