Bhaiya, Malhar Sunao

HP:

considering that your post calling sadna a whore didn`t get deleted right away, your current one won`t be deleted either.

my note to the specific chowk editor was tongue-in-cheek, if the editors read this, they will know what i mean. it was a reference to something private which will not be understood here. it was not to question why this story was published here.

i have no problem with the young hamid writing a story about gujarat. but only an ignorant person would write something about kama sutra being practiced on someone in the act of rape. kama is love, and regardless of our sensibilities when it comes to sex or the kama sutra, the equating of kama to rape is frankly ridiculous. hamid had already expressed his disgust for hindus long before this story was published. and quite frankly it shows in this piece. it shows without even having that prior knowledge.

india is not the most pious country in the world, and there are hindus who decried what happened in gujarat, plenty of them. are we going to dismiss those people as ones who don`t matter? as ones who don`t know where the fault lies? what narrow-minded opinions do people of your ilk have of ALL hindus anyway? even i don`t blame the entire muslim population of pakistan for the rapes of christian women perpetrated by muslims, or christians murdered during church services, or practically an entire christian village being destroyed because i know that not to be true. for me to think otherwise is the height of ignorance and blame-gaming. for you, it seems to have become a part of your repertoire and life.

and here`s another fact. . .this whole conversation may not have even taken place and i would have just ignored this article and moved on, if hamid had not said that india is no place for muslims. more than a few of us christians have been told in not so subtle ways that pakistan is no place for us by muslims. again, it is not for the writer to decide what is a place for indian muslims, or that hindus who live in pakistan don`t belong there. his story may have been badly written (a sensitive subject deserves better treatment), but his defensive and offensive remarks have overshadowed even that.

and it seems rather pointless for me to indulge in this conversation any further, so i will just shake the dust from my feet and walk away. . .

HP #46,

Please, spare us the sermon. It would`ve been quite different if this were an
interact, and not an article. Of course we all indulge in ``mine is better than yours``
at chowk, but I would feel ashamed if the chowk editors decided to publish a
random rant of mine as a front page article. This is a collective responsiblity that
we all need to be aware of.

This article is wrong on facts and fails on every single count of literary criterion,
hence it shouldn`t have appeared. At best it is a third rate propaganda piece.
It would, however, be a perfectly acceptable interact or ilog entry, in my opinion.

Hamid_81 #42,

``Like India.At least Pakistan does not take party in violence in Palestine``

As several people have said, educate yourself more on issues before talking
about them. On second thought, forget it.

By the way, the picture you keep pointing out (for deeply humane reasons, I am
certain) is that of Qutbuddin Ansari. He is alive and well, and has relocated to Calcutta
(which I really hope he didn`t have to). You may want to look up these url`s. His case
was actually followed widely across the Indian press.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/525354.cms
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021212/nation.htm

It really is a good idea to read up a little on Lucknow-Gujarat distances, HIV/AIDS
and other assorted things before writing about them. The fact that Temple-wallas
liked it isn`t a credible defence.

Well, India is a country where Muslims are a pest and treated such. There will be Ethinic Cleansing done all the time. it is just a matter of time when you become the next target.
And yes. Indians beware. You have somebody over here, who is going to write everyting that happens to Muslims in India. And again, if this would have been about Pakistan,you would have congratulated me. But now, this will always be about India. I don`t want a good rating, from Chootia Indians. I am happy if I piss them off enough. LOL
Seeing them Squirm like this makes me feel great. Keep up the SQUIRMING and I promise to keep writing things that will keep you Squirming more.
H

Well, I think Ana should stop with her Chootiyapa. She is pissing me off. As they say, if you can`t stop a girl from yapping then you should give her something to keep her mouth busy.
LOL

``To all the Indians. Accept the facts. India is no place for Muslims.``

I find this line to be more interesting then the article. A Non Indian Muslim telling Indian Muslims to to ``face facts``. LOL!!

I would be the first to Admit that Indian Muslims get a Raw Deal in India. They are economically backward and deserve affirmative action. I also know that communalism exists. But the situation is nowhere as simplistic as this idiot is portraying it to be.

Consitutionally Indian Muslims get more protection then any other Muslim in Muslim countries. No less a persona then Urstruly said it. :) As Human Beings and as Hindus, we should accept the fact that the communal monster does occaisionally rise amongst us. Rather then blanket denial one must face up to that scourge and defeat it. Our shared prosperity is the ultimate goal.

``LOL. ....... I guess the next Holucaust would be in India, and we will happily watch it on TV.
``

The true face of Pakistan towards Indian Muslims. They will cry crocodile tears for Indian Muslims but will secretly enjoy any horror visited upon the Indian Muslim because it will reinforce their nationhood.

O Lord, please spare me the love showed by Pakistani Muslims to their fellow Muslims in India and Afghanistan.

#51

This Bastard has the audacity to write a story about a rape?

#51

Yeah, Hamid Mian - You sure know how to treat a girl right - don`t ya!!! you are a real red-blooded paki .... Only a paki could have come up with a statement like that.

Keep it up bro - you are the kind of person pakistan needs. With an attitude like this, you will go places in the land of pure. You are jsut 21 and possibilites are endless.

Who knows..... someday you could be the President General of Pakistan.

++++

[ Snigger - what a jacka$$!! ]

Stuka. You Madar Chood. Just shut up and go F..ck yourself. S.O.B Fu..king Indian.

......... the only reason i feel compelled to throw in my nickle is because somone named hamid wrote it ........... i haven`t read the story (and have no intention of reading it either) but judging by the interacts, this hamid must have said something that has irritated a lot of our unconverted friends who still dwell in the darkness of the jahaliya ........... ergo, it must be good ..........

........... even i am getting tired of all the paki-bashing by both the cicumscised and the unclean,...... therfore, even without reading what all the fuss is about, i fully endorse the views of my namesake ...............excelsior!

stuka,

thank you for putting so succinctly what i couldn`t express myself. he is a boy, i keep telling myself. but his age cannot be an excuse for his immaturity. i find it highly interesting that a boy should write a story about a horrific act such as rape, and then post such filth as #51.

women don`t need immature boys who have no idea what it is like to be raped to exploit them for no other purpose than to promote an agenda of hate. it is disrespecting to women who actually went through this, to read this as this was written.

51
chowk staff, your high standards are impressive. well done

hp, it is well documented that this baby-dangling did not happen.been through all this already.
descriptions of rape should not be tiltillating. this was meant to be just that.

#52 by hamid_81 on August 8, 2004 3:14pm PT
``.......I don`t want a good rating, from Chootia Indians. I am happy if I piss them off enough. LOL
..... I promise to keep writing things that will keep you Squirming more.``

Chowk editors you need to kick this man out now.

#51 by hamid_81 on August 8, 2004 3:14pm PT
``Well, I think Ana should stop with her Chootiyapa. She is pissing me off. As they say, if you can`t stop a girl from yapping then you should give her something to keep her mouth busy.
LOL ``
(Chowk can`t you delete such posts!)

I am sure you do the same with your Mother and Sisters! And wipe off that stupid grin on your face!