When Balochistan bleeds, Why Pakistan Doesn’t Feel the Pain?

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Dear Morad...

I appreciate your comments... Yaar God save Pakistan from the KKK from Kandahar. His various avtars are merely here to cause controversy...

Wajahat is cut from a different cloth... a true patriot... from his writings... though he too suffers from occasional bout of very weak and presumptious analysis, not with issues, but with people on chowk... who he doesn`t know in person... I don`t think that is a good lane to go down... I feel that the people love to presume things, create enemies, imagine their so-called true faces ... without actually knowing them... their entire basis of this so called knowledge about another person is the internet personna... For example... Many chowkies have met me in real life... and several articles have appeared on Chowk describing me as a completely different person from what they had imagined ... I wouldn`t know because I just write whatever I get inspired to write... so I am not sure what my online and offline personna is...

Either way... its always best to withold judgement... till a fairer assessment is possible... because no-one is more despicable than people who assume that they have a crystal bowl and know everything about everyone.

-Sincerely

YLH

aziz,

you are right, of course. unfortunately some of the interactors who claim to be speaking for pakistan`s interests are too self-absorbed in this who did more and who did less, and what ethnic group has created the most damage and who slept with whom rather than focusing on real problems. they like to regress rather than progress. . . might it just be that they have no real answers to the questions you seek? :)

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Manto, Dino and the rest
I don’t think that you guys seem to understand … the comments/ views by kkk Manto, Dino and the rest
I don’t think that you guys seem to understand … the comments/ views by kkk or wajahat is due to concern for Pakistan and its unity in true sense. Some of the comments are unkind and blunt maybe out of the anger towards the apathy and arrogance of folks like you ….
Kindly understand that most of the interactors from karachi on this forum have not personally suffered from Punjab dominance or discrimination in a major way …. However we do understand and feel the genuine grievances of others from karachi to Baluchistan and realize how sad and dangerous it is for Pakistan … what is disappointing is that you dont see and realize that ....
Manto, I had been reading your posts on this forum and to the large extent my views are in tandem with u on the nuisance of the so called Mullahs like fazlurrehaman etc although you seem to be too obsessed on this single issue…
You define yourself as ‘liberal’ .. for that you have to liberate and open your mind towards other issues with the same passion, pain and effort that you seem to exert towards mullah bashing ….

//...The Poorbiyas had fought for the Angrez when the Angrez fought the Sikhs. Why would Punjabis have gone to support the Poorbiyas? ..//

Yep - and in the end, the Angrez got it all. Guess who were the loosers - both Poorbiyas and Punjabis. So typical.

Reminds me the story about two cats who were fighting over a piece of bread and the monkey who benefitted from the dispute.

Sadest part is - the lesson was never learnt. Hundreds of years after that - you still see Bhayyas and Punjus clawing at each other.

What loosers!!!!

#135 dino

what is (T) ?

overall sometimes one sees some similarities between ``pure`` faiths and the ``khalsa`` in the sense of yearning for purity. its a little scary for those belonging to more impure faiths and those not belonging to the pure faiths.

omar qureshi: is dawn planning on covering balochistan? i think media is the biggest blame in coverage of balochistan. this should be prime news in all news channels, magazine exposes and not just in SA Tribune. it does not matter if its some tribal hoodlums bombing sui pipeline, let there be a big and rowdy debate. in emergency by indira, the newsmedia in india cowed down and the result is there for everyone to see.

yaar Kandahari klu klux klan...

Kitni baizati karaay gaa aur?? Ab khush hai ... jab dionysus nay teri sookhi sookhi lay lee hai in Khalis Punjabi style?

kkk #122 ``The Turko-Afghans and Mughals ruled from Delhi. We Mohajirs, the Hindustanra, are the descendants of these dynasties and their supporters.``

You are the biggest lunatic that chowk has ever seen in its history. What do Rajasthani slaves and mud monkeys have to do with the Turko-Persian nobility of Delhi and Lucknow, you moron? There is NO connection whatsoever apart from the fact that some of your women provided them with horizontal refereshment. Providing them with cheap and easy sex does not make you stake-holders in their empires, idiot. It makes you pimps, not imperialists.


``Also, during the 1857 war of independence or ``SEPOY MUTINY`` as your masters call it, while most of Hindustan was fighting for independence, Punjabis, such as yourself, were kissing the Angraiz` ass and extending colonial rule by another 90 years``

Bhayyas helped the British invade our Punjab, and Punjabis, led by the mighty Tiwanas, returned the favour. By all accounts they had a lot of fun in Bhayyaland. (T)

Dear folks,

Why is it that in these discussions we get distracted so easily? We go back to our fortifications instantly and start attacking each other with slurs, racist remarks and what not. Why can’t we celebrate our diversity and try to reach conclusions in an orderly manner? Sometimes it even looks as if we were not citizens of the same country!

But it may not entirely be our fault. We really are not used to civil and democratic norms. This scribe included. We belong to a country that has been ruled by bureaucrats with the help of military in its early years and by military with the help of bureaucrats since almost half a century. All the others including the so-called elite have been brutally used by these two powerful groups mercilessly. Democracy and civil society has never been allowed to take roots.

What should we do then?

As a report said in today’s daily Times (Aug 18) the Flying Paper Mills in Sheikhupura, whose officials are accused in the murder of a citizen protesting at their pollution, is still dumping effluent into the Khanpur Canal.

The military men are still harassing and hounding the Okara farmers. A journalist arrested while covering the plight of the farmers few weeks back has not yet been released according to the last reports that I saw on the issue.

The people in Sindh, Wana, Seraiki belt and Balochistan deserve the attention of all the citizens of Pakistan (and the citizens of the world) to come to their aid and speak against the injustices meted out to them.

What is our response to all that? Cursing each other. I really don’t know what to make out of it.

Please give these things a little thought.

Regards,

Aziz

#128 by dost-mittar on August 17, 2004 5:31pm PT

Agreed. Some of the most powerful statements against oppression by the political and religious elites has come from the Punjabis and not the Bengalis.
Bhagat Singh started this and went all the way to Batalvi and then on to the fiery Avar Singh Pash.
Can anyone forget Pash?? He spoke the bitter truths about Punjab politics and their culture when it mattered the most - other pretenders just hid behind the Bhindrawale brigade in the Golden temple. I am sure you must remember him because he went and lived in Canada for quite some time running his news letter (Anti-47 Front) which criticized the Khalistani extremists and their sympathesizers.
He was murdered by them when he came back to India. Some say the orders were from Bhindrawale. He was 38 at that time.

I submit translation of one his poems:

The Most Dangerous Thing
By Pash
{Translated from a Hindi translation of the original Punjabi poem to English
by Dubhashi Devdatt and Shashi Kumar}

The most dangerous thing is not the loot of your labour
The most dangerous thing is not the beating by the police
The most dangerous thing is not treachery or greed

To get caught lying down is bad enough
To be rendered scared and speechless is also bad
But it is not the most dangerous thing

The most dangerous thing is:
To achieve peace of a corpse
Not to struggle, to bear everything
To leave the house for work
And to return home from work
The most dangerous thing is:
For our dreams to die.

Dear folks,

While talking of poetry, a Punjabi poem by Munir Niazi (hope I am not wrong) comes to my mind. I want to share it with you. I hope you won’t mind it:

Kuchh oonj vee raavaaN aukhiyaaN sann
Kuchh gal vich gham daa tauq vee cee
Kuchh shahar dey log vee zaalim sann
Kuchh saanooN maraN daa shauq vee cee

And somebody else has said:

Zulm rahey aur amn bhi ho
Kiya mamkin hai tum hi kaho

And one by indomitable Ghalib:

Aitbaar-e ishq ki khaana-e kharaabi dekhna
Ghair ney ki aah, leikin woh khafaa mujh pey hua

Please correct me if I am wrong. Will be much obliged.

Regards,

Aziz