Indira Gandhi Bunaam Bush!

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hamidm unkil #27,

how could you support the same dumb ass president the dumb ass Bible thumping southerners support?

what`s wrong with kerry`s flip-floppiness, we`re all free to change our mind, the reason we`re ini the Iraqi mess is because Bush hasn`t changed his stupid mind.

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hamidm unkil #27,

how could you support the same dumb ass president the dumb ass Bible thumping southerners support?

what`s wrong with kerry`s flip-floppiness, we`re all free to change our mind, the reason we`re ini the Iraqi mess is because Bush hasn`t changed his stupid mind.

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Dear Farzana:
No two situations are completely identical, but I think that the similarities are there to draw appropriate lessons. Bhindranwale, too, came out of obscurity, as did Sadr though from a pedigreed family.

``The US and its chamchas have committed all manner of demeaning acts after `freeing` the Iraqis - they have nothing to lose``
I think that the US has lost a lot, its soldiers, money and, above all, international credibility. I agree with Romair that the US is stuck and there`s no easy way out. You may have noticed that while Kerry criticises Bush, he does not offer any solution. There isn`t any except to reap the harvest sown by them.

r.a.janjua:
I`m glad that the article brought you out of your slumber:-). Yes, both Kaaba and Ali`s shrine have been violated. But then the drama was not being played on the world stage, as is the case now. In both cases, it was an internal affair of mostly closed societies which drew very little outside attention. In case of Kaaba, the press did not even reveal the name of the mosque which was captured by the militants. And since the occupants and the attackers both belonged to the same religion, there was no communal dimension to it.

nasah bhaijaan:
``thank goodness this nightmare is about to be over``

Aapke munh mein ghee shakar, but how?

kkkandk:
You have to work a lot harder to bring credibility to your theories, although I know that stranger things have happened. I have never visited that website - sword-something - but it is true that very little is known about Rajiv`s father, let alone his grandfather, except that he was too independent to become a ghar-jamhai of Jawahar Lal Nehru.

rsaxena:
There is no khalistan movement to be uncovered by me or anyone else, only some deep wounds that are scraped every time they are about to heal, like the appointment of people like Jaggi Tytler to cabinet posts, and that too made incharge of NRIs of which the Sikh diaspora is a large part.

Pardais:

Good post.


DM:

I see your point if one looks at similarities only at a tactical level. The startegic implications and environment are quite different.

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[re: farzana
{Punjab is not terribly unstable}

...how sad that must be for you....]

Back to your old games, I can see...reaching your own conclusions. I was responding to the article and the wounds....and I mentioned wounds in my post too. You missed that.

I think Hamidm has a very good point. Let us not forget that all wars are for elites benefit but are invariably fought by the poor. If the Sadams’ and the Shrubs of the world can pay some frenzied poor to die for them, then who is to be blamed?
Bush picks up poor, ships them in mean planes and these all American poor chanting “Arabs? Sand niggers? Threaten _US_? Hah! We`ve got really big phallic symb - er - cruise missles!” and the most poor in the US, civilians or in the military, take pride in killing almost similar with more toxic phallic symbols - minarets and tombs.

So some in the Arab world do need their behind whipped thoroughly. Since the Pak army has the most experience in flagellation of its poor in Pakistan, they should be allowed to go to Iraq and enlighten the Iraqis with their novel methods that the US army can’t even touch. (Now Arjun and his ilk- this is not meant to support your crackpot thesis)
Though I can’t predict that the whole ``Have Quran & Burial Shroud, Will Travel`` crowd will not take the next bus to Iraq soon.

Do we really think that the US did not think of Ali’s Shrine when it decided to go to Najaf? The Shrub and his cohorts may be boneheads but they are not deadheads.

They have a bearded one from the Sunni Muslims and now they will have another bearded one from the Shia-Muslims, who injured himself defending Ali’s dead body. Keep creating symbols to continue the war. Did anybody not hear Bush and the US congress, when they claimed that this war will continue for years? Hate to disappoint the Nasah’s and the Echobooms of this world, the ragtag or regheads, whatever they are called, will continue to be propped up by the US to continue the war.
Reinventing bogeymen is always helpful. First it was the tall one. The one who imitates the prophet Mohammed by staying in the caves for his pious struggle, and then we had the Sadman with a sword that was way heavier then his flat ass could support, and now we have the defender of the sacred land.
The real defender already left to get heart transplant in the holiest land -er- London.
Within a short period the US has gone thru three villains in Iraq. Sadman, Zarqawi and now it is Sadr guy’s turn. Let’s see how long he lasts. They have already set up Challabi, the fraudman in Iran to be the next bogeyman in case Sadr is too stupid.

The Emanuel Goldsteins’ from the Arab world…

re: farzana

don`t be so touchy...nobody insulted you

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Dost,
Gujju is absolutely right. India is putting the past behind it and moving on. What happened in 1984 was that we had two wrongs. Killing Indira Gandhi was a definite wrong and the Hindu mobs that slaughtered all those innocent Sikhs were not doing any favors to her spirit. Bhindranwale and his goons were Paki agents and the Indian government was forced to act. At that time, it was revealed that many of the dead ``Sikh`` terrorists in the temple were circumcised. There were too many fingers pointing at Zia and the Pakis.

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