Mohammad Gill September 2, 2004
#172 Posted by Jagpal on April 25, 2005 7:37:26 am
People Say ``Jisne Lahore nahi dekhia uh Jamia hi nahi.`` And this proves that I am still to take birth. I was about to take birth at the time of Indian cricket team visited Lahore. But the Visa Officer closed his Nursing home before my Pasport reaching him.
May be I will be born some other time.
May be I will be born some other time.
#171 Posted by wayfarer on September 27, 2004 8:40:23 am
Mohammed,
definitely- `Jis Lahore ne dekhiya woh janmeya nai!`
Hilarious read:) The khayali and the khali students and the poster-walls have brightened my day.thank you for the chuckles.
Now I wish I could hop on the dilli-lahore bus and see it for myself- Of particular interest would be to locate Dr.Iqbal, nothing like specialised foreign treatment.But its been on and off so many times, I don`t know where the bus is now- prbably the ISBt terminus. do tell us more about lahore..a question out of genuine interest- is the ravi at lahore really dry? We have notions of it being a grand,full river, but my sources are literary and old.
definitely- `Jis Lahore ne dekhiya woh janmeya nai!`
Hilarious read:) The khayali and the khali students and the poster-walls have brightened my day.thank you for the chuckles.
Now I wish I could hop on the dilli-lahore bus and see it for myself- Of particular interest would be to locate Dr.Iqbal, nothing like specialised foreign treatment.But its been on and off so many times, I don`t know where the bus is now- prbably the ISBt terminus. do tell us more about lahore..a question out of genuine interest- is the ravi at lahore really dry? We have notions of it being a grand,full river, but my sources are literary and old.
#170 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 11, 2004 7:14:43 am
i know u were being rhetorical DM - what iw as trying to say, which was for some reason censored, was that i dont think chowk or any other website is a place where i need to show proof of my employment
#169 Posted by ZahraJ on September 10, 2004 5:07:22 pm
This board has way too many weirdos who are wearing new ids to gain some credibility.
The lesson learned from the back and forth exercise on this board is to avoid bringing others` ilogs to a discussion board. It`s simply rude. Do not try to disrupt the flow of a discussion. Please take your grudges somewhere else.
Somehow, there is something wrong with the post button. Every time I tried to write monkey-like, the submission process converted it to monkey. Sorry for any high blood pressure or heartache that may have caused. I understand that there are many oversensitive human beings on this board who like to preach on ``do not try to be personal`` but do not believe in practicing it. Despite their badtameezian and inherent hypocrisy, I would be ``kind`` to them. That means I would not interact with them. As far as demanding respect is concerned, someone must be real fool to think that. No one can demand anything out of anyone if that`s not natural to them. Interactors/human beings are either civil or uncivil. The End.
Have a nice long weekend all.
The lesson learned from the back and forth exercise on this board is to avoid bringing others` ilogs to a discussion board. It`s simply rude. Do not try to disrupt the flow of a discussion. Please take your grudges somewhere else.
Somehow, there is something wrong with the post button. Every time I tried to write monkey-like, the submission process converted it to monkey. Sorry for any high blood pressure or heartache that may have caused. I understand that there are many oversensitive human beings on this board who like to preach on ``do not try to be personal`` but do not believe in practicing it. Despite their badtameezian and inherent hypocrisy, I would be ``kind`` to them. That means I would not interact with them. As far as demanding respect is concerned, someone must be real fool to think that. No one can demand anything out of anyone if that`s not natural to them. Interactors/human beings are either civil or uncivil. The End.
Have a nice long weekend all.
#168 Posted by hindvi on September 10, 2004 8:45:16 am
Gujju1
Googling is not how economists get stats they refer to databases, which database are you using, I am consistently shocked by your Stats.
I hope it is not the Indian govt because, though they have generally been ok in the past, lately there has been some controversy, due to NDA`s inflating of the figures.
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2004
THE TIMES OF INDIA
TODAY`S EDITORIAL
Lies and Statistics?
[ THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 09, 2004 12:00:00 AM ]
Bring credibility back to India`s numbers
Everybody knows that the late NDA government wanted to rewrite India`s history to suit its peculiar ideological obsessions. Now, there is some evidence to indicate that it might have been massaging statistics over the last few years to make contemporary reality look more presentable to its constituents. On Monday, J K Banthia, registrar-general and census boss announced that in the 10 years from 1991-2001, the Muslim population had jumped 36 per cent, a growth rate that is higher than that of the previous decade and, of course, higher than the rate at which India`s Hindu population has grown. All handouts released to media made the same point. The sangh parivar, which feeds on the paranoia of a 13 per cent Muslim population overtaking India`s 80 per cent Hindu majority someday, made a feast of this tidbit. Trouble is, the census boss wasn`t being entirely correct: he glossed over the fact that the 1991 census didn`t count people in Jammu & Kashmir, India`s only Muslim-majority state, which the present one does. Correcting for that distortion, the Muslim population growth rate through 1991-2001 falls to 29 per cent, a big decline over the 1981-91 growth figure. We do not know whether Banthia, appointed by the BJP-led regime, sparked off an entirely irrelevant debate deliberately, but his actions were certainly irresponsible.
Recently, it has become clear that in order to burnish its `India Shining` campaign with statistical gloss, the previous regime massaged inflation numbers. Research by a reputed finance company shows that key parameters of the wholesale price index (WPI), which measures hikes in producers` prices, were left unchanged for long periods — for as much as 46 months in some cases. The net effect of holding these numbers constant was to make inflation look lower than it actually was. Given that, it`s no coincidence that one of the main campaign planks of the BJP was the supposedly-low level of inflation. Short-term numerical fiddles cast long shadows: The credibility of India`s data-reporting system has been built up painstakingly, often at the cost of major embarrassment to the political system. The actions of the previous regime could severely undermine confidence in the entire system and reduce policymaking, which relies heavily on accurate numbers, to a hit-and-miss exercise. In terms of data accuracy, India has always been compared favourably to China. The NDA has done a lot to dent that trust. The UPA regime must undo the damage, bring back accountability and weed lies out of statistics.
Googling is not how economists get stats they refer to databases, which database are you using, I am consistently shocked by your Stats.
I hope it is not the Indian govt because, though they have generally been ok in the past, lately there has been some controversy, due to NDA`s inflating of the figures.
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2004
THE TIMES OF INDIA
TODAY`S EDITORIAL
Lies and Statistics?
[ THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 09, 2004 12:00:00 AM ]
Bring credibility back to India`s numbers
Everybody knows that the late NDA government wanted to rewrite India`s history to suit its peculiar ideological obsessions. Now, there is some evidence to indicate that it might have been massaging statistics over the last few years to make contemporary reality look more presentable to its constituents. On Monday, J K Banthia, registrar-general and census boss announced that in the 10 years from 1991-2001, the Muslim population had jumped 36 per cent, a growth rate that is higher than that of the previous decade and, of course, higher than the rate at which India`s Hindu population has grown. All handouts released to media made the same point. The sangh parivar, which feeds on the paranoia of a 13 per cent Muslim population overtaking India`s 80 per cent Hindu majority someday, made a feast of this tidbit. Trouble is, the census boss wasn`t being entirely correct: he glossed over the fact that the 1991 census didn`t count people in Jammu & Kashmir, India`s only Muslim-majority state, which the present one does. Correcting for that distortion, the Muslim population growth rate through 1991-2001 falls to 29 per cent, a big decline over the 1981-91 growth figure. We do not know whether Banthia, appointed by the BJP-led regime, sparked off an entirely irrelevant debate deliberately, but his actions were certainly irresponsible.
Recently, it has become clear that in order to burnish its `India Shining` campaign with statistical gloss, the previous regime massaged inflation numbers. Research by a reputed finance company shows that key parameters of the wholesale price index (WPI), which measures hikes in producers` prices, were left unchanged for long periods — for as much as 46 months in some cases. The net effect of holding these numbers constant was to make inflation look lower than it actually was. Given that, it`s no coincidence that one of the main campaign planks of the BJP was the supposedly-low level of inflation. Short-term numerical fiddles cast long shadows: The credibility of India`s data-reporting system has been built up painstakingly, often at the cost of major embarrassment to the political system. The actions of the previous regime could severely undermine confidence in the entire system and reduce policymaking, which relies heavily on accurate numbers, to a hit-and-miss exercise. In terms of data accuracy, India has always been compared favourably to China. The NDA has done a lot to dent that trust. The UPA regime must undo the damage, bring back accountability and weed lies out of statistics.
#167 Posted by gujju1 on September 10, 2004 7:09:22 am
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#166 Posted by 1line on September 10, 2004 6:19:32 am
gujju1
latest poverty report of ADB says`More than 90% of the 690 million extremely poor in Asia’s developing countries live in India`
That is 60% of Indian population. It is a rich country!
latest poverty report of ADB says`More than 90% of the 690 million extremely poor in Asia’s developing countries live in India`
That is 60% of Indian population. It is a rich country!
#165 Posted by dost_mittar on September 10, 2004 4:11:44 am
omar#164
I did not doubt your being from Dawn. That ``I wonder`` sentence was rhetorical.
I did not doubt your being from Dawn. That ``I wonder`` sentence was rhetorical.
#164 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 9, 2004 10:29:20 pm
and yes of course the environment at chowk is quite different from my work environment at dawn -- as for me actually being the same person that i consider a silly question -- lets find out what zahraJ does for a living and then comment on her maturity or lack thereof vis a vis posts on chowk
#162 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 9, 2004 10:29:19 pm
interesting -- while ZahraJ goes on calling me names, the editors of this site see it fit to censor my posts -- how nice -- how much did the bear pay you guys --
#161 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on September 9, 2004 10:29:19 pm
what nonsense is this -- post no. 139 is not mine -- mine was a response to dost mittar and the resident chowk psycho which i believe has been censored -- that is the prerogative of this site`s editors -- what is interesting though is that they not only censored what i wrote but wrote something else completely and posted it under my own name -- how nice -- re post no 140 -- dost sahib -- yes senior or junior kee batein please chorain, we are all equals here on chowk unless of course you happen to be a bear -- my response to you has been censored but it was basically along the lines that zahraJ has been personal in the past and her psychotic leanings have been acknowlegded by many on chowk -- also, i dont come on chowk pretending to write editorials or comment opinion pieces --
FOR THE RECORD THOUGH, POST NUMBER 139 IS NOT MINE
1line -- that editorial i leave for you to write
FOR THE RECORD THOUGH, POST NUMBER 139 IS NOT MINE
1line -- that editorial i leave for you to write
#160 Posted by gujju1 on September 9, 2004 10:03:03 pm
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#159 Posted by kkkandk on September 9, 2004 9:06:56 pm
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#158 Posted by veeresh on September 9, 2004 7:56:54 pm
stuka/148 - Lahore`s relevant to its place under the sun is what I mean.
#157 Posted by hindvi on September 9, 2004 5:42:20 pm
According to the International Financial Statistics published by the IMF (These are the statistics most reffered to by Macroeconomists when running regressions) India and Pakistan are on par at percapita income levels in nominal dollar terms. You can access the IFS for free during a trial period.
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