Lahore ka Jughraphiah

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Hey, Lary, Joe and Curly Moe (add alphabet soup too, please?) so much for Pind Lahore da:-

````Indo-Pak dialogue has transcended ``Lahore stage``, says Menon
New Delhi | September 07, 2004 2:12:26 PM IST

India`s High Commissioner in Islamabad SS Menon has said that the ongoing peace process with Pakistan had reached beyond the stage of the Lahore process.````

http://www.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=47336&cat=India

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``Lahore`s relevance and importance is on par with, say, Kanpur or Karnal or similar, not Delhi or Amritsar or Ludhiana, then I mean that I back it up with something? ``

Relevance to who? Pakistan or India?

Lahore is the third largest city of Pakistan. How can you then compare its relevance to Pakistan with the comparison of Karnal and Kanpur to India.

``... still back when Arundhati Roy was visiting Lahore... he couldn`t contain his contempt and hatred for all she stands for..``

Yeah, that`s when she was getting her photos taken with Hamid Gul. There are millions of Indians who cannot stand what AR stands for.

We can happily give her to Pakistan if y`all like her so much.

YLH:

``You see his objective is to first draw an analogy with Germany... prove that some how India is like `West Germany` and Pakistan is like `East Germany`... ``

I have a hard time agreeing with the above because if that was the agenda then Veeresh would have trashed Islambad as well. What seems to be apparent is that his animus is to Lahore, not to Pakistan in general. I have never been to Lahore and I think Veeresh is getting tied up in details which are irrelevant or simply insiginificant in passing a judgement.

I do kinda see the larger picture of what he is trying to say...ergo Lahore is like Calcutta. Erstwhile Capital, still considered the cultural capital but essentially losing out to the economic and political powerhouses of Karachi and Islamabad respectively. That would be a natural progression. After all Lahore`s importance as a city came about because it was a political capital and that has been supplanted by Islamabad.

This is not to undermine the importance of either city and I have no hidden agenda of comparing Cal because of its bad rep in the west. In fact the largest slum in Asia is in Mumbai, not in Cal. Calcutta is still the cultural capital in terms of literature, traditional theatre etc and I suspect Lahore maybe the same as well.

In terms of comparing Lahore to Karnal or Kanpur, I suspect that is just Veeresh being a bit petty because that comparison does not stand at all.

On a different note, I thank the author for posting this. I don`t know Urdu, and articles like these give me the pleasure of reading and getting at least some enjoyment, the purists be damned.

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#140: Dost Mittar: I respect you desire to continue with your hope and expectation. I am not sure if it`s in the right direction. Still, it`s your entitlement. You have to take my word for the point I have highlighted on immaturity. Please see his ool jalool that is all over the Chowk and observe how his baby ``kkkandk`` is jumping from thread to thread to catch attention. I think dawn`s monkey and his baby kkkandk are the same person. I did not mean to shock you by giving this news.

kkkandk: I think you should visit the Bronx Zoo whenever you can get an opportunity. You may like to find a cage there and play all your pranks. Hey, do not forget to take the monkey with you. Both of you will do very well in amusing the visitors with your pranks. Good luck! Interaction/Discussion boards are not for pranksters!

Dear ZahraJ
May I know what subject/s you have your degree in?

What database did you use Mr Gujju. On the reliability of Indian Stats please peruse a recent edit in the times of india

Lies and Statistics?

[ THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 09, 2004 12:00:00 AM ]

Bring credibility back to India`s numbers

Everybody knows that the late NDA government wanted to rewrite India`s history to suit its peculiar ideological obsessions. Now, there is some evidence to indicate that it might have been massaging statistics over the last few years to make contemporary reality look more presentable to its constituents. On Monday, J K Banthia, registrar-general and census boss announced that in the 10 years from 1991-2001, the Muslim population had jumped 36 per cent, a growth rate that is higher than that of the previous decade and, of course, higher than the rate at which India`s Hindu population has grown. All handouts released to media made the same point. The sangh parivar, which feeds on the paranoia of a 13 per cent Muslim population overtaking India`s 80 per cent Hindu majority someday, made a feast of this tidbit. Trouble is, the census boss wasn`t being entirely correct: he glossed over the fact that the 1991 census didn`t count people in Jammu & Kashmir, India`s only Muslim-majority state, which the present one does. Correcting for that distortion, the Muslim population growth rate through 1991-2001 falls to 29 per cent, a big decline over the 1981-91 growth figure. We do not know whether Banthia, appointed by the BJP-led regime, sparked off an entirely irrelevant debate deliberately, but his actions were certainly irresponsible

Recently, it has become clear that in order to burnish its `India Shining` campaign with statistical gloss, the previous regime massaged inflation numbers. Research by a reputed finance company shows that key parameters of the wholesale price index (WPI), which measures hikes in producers` prices, were left unchanged for long periods — for as much as 46 months in some cases. The net effect of holding these numbers constant was to make inflation look lower than it actually was. Given that, it`s no coincidence that one of the main campaign planks of the BJP was the supposedly-low level of inflation. Short-term numerical fiddles cast long shadows: The credibility of India`s data-reporting system has been built up painstakingly, often at the cost of major embarrassment to the political system. The actions of the previous regime could severely undermine confidence in the entire system and reduce policymaking, which relies heavily on accurate numbers, to a hit-and-miss exercise. In terms of data accuracy, India has always been compared favourably to China. The NDA has done a lot to dent that trust. The UPA regime must undo the damage, bring back accountability and weed lies out of statistics.

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According to the International Financial Statistics published by the IMF (These are the statistics most reffered to by Macroeconomists when running regressions) India and Pakistan are on par at percapita income levels in nominal dollar terms. You can access the IFS for free during a trial period.

stuka/148 - Lahore`s relevant to its place under the sun is what I mean.

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