Cactus Gas

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``And people, why is it wrong to equate cows with Hinduism? Is it because NFP does so in his usual offensive way or is it something else? I`m curious.``

Nothing wrong. I just want pakis to admit it, which they seem not to. Cows have always been hindu..even the Brahma Bulls.

You know the connection..hindu-bovine-good for slaughter.
And then the fat-cow metaphor is about hindu-women-good for fcking.

the ``artist`` should have honesty to accept his dark side. in fact, he should be excited that he stumbled on it inadvertantly, is this not what writing about? we all write to learn more about ourselves.

this artist claims to show the warts of nationalism, but ducks from his warts which pop out and are obvious to me. very pathetic.

nihilism my ass. a good artist to me is a minimalist.

#42 ana
~~and i got lost on `oncentions` :) ye kis cheez ki bala hai?~~

Blimy! A thousand apologies. I meant ``conventions.``

#46 feedback
~~You certainly have a facist sideas well my roudy leftwing anarchist. ~~

Whatever that makes you happy and me less confusing for you, feedback. Hail!

This was pretty hilarious, NFP. Waaay out there. But it just didn`t go the distance ``acidity`` went.
And people, why is it wrong to equate cows with Hinduism? Is it because NFP does so in his usual offensive way or is it something else? I`m curious.

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Nadeem
Yes I suggested that this is your most nihilistic piece yet, and to further dissapoint you I feel in Cactus Gas the nihilistic style and content cannot be called the nihilism of pre-Russian-Revolution nihilists but rather what is called Nietzschean nihilism. You certainly have a facist sideas well my roudy leftwing anarchist.

rahul:#43

i`ve read essence of camphor, by naiyer masud. a collection of short stories translated from urdu into english. they`re quite good. . .and i would recommend him

#39 by baaghiraja

“But what can I possibly say to a person who calls me ugly and genius in a single post? Other than maybe thank you or up yours you unskillful banterer!!”

Oh man! …. And that was a compliment!

Here are two ugly and one genius take your pick.

Now don’t start drooling! Not in your Banglore league!

nfp- thanks for the lucid reply.
Has anybody read Naiyer Masud?

harish #30

i don`t mean to derail the conversation, or move away from topic here, but it has been a long time since you`ve graced us with your presence on chowk, and hope that all is well :)

baaghiraja #29

i`m not entirely certain how you determined i was taking thaaat narrow of a view, but when i said you spared neither indians nor pakistanis, i meant in ``showing`` their absurdities vis-a-vis religion, nationalism, patriotism. . .i don`t see this as being anti- anything really. . . i do see this as rather grotesque exaggerations to show certain attitudes in regards to the religion-nationalism-patriotism nexus.

and i got lost on `oncentions` :) ye kis cheez ki bala hai?

~a.

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#30 by HN
Thank you HN for the appreciation. Trying to be a forerunner in what you have suggested may be an unconscious desire, but like I tried to explain in Acidity’s (albeit blotched) intro, I still believe that the contemporary fusing of early and mid 20th Century prose styles like the Cutup Method, Dadaism and “Existential Absurdism” is still the most effective way to relate and comment the spontaneous chaos that, to me, is making the early 21st century seem so hilariously dark and tragically absurd. Either I’m just too paranoid (which does not necessarily mean I’m wrong, mind you), or this is just my way of now playing the sardonic (and as someone here suggested, “nihilistic”) court jester, instead of the “angry young man” who once actually believed in the logic and persuasive power of cohesive literary narratives as a means to bring about change.

#31 by Warlus on August 17, 2004 11:31pm PT
~~NFP, I still don`t really know what to make of it.The lucid but eddying and pointless dialogue is often funny, and pratfalls and other modes of slapstick seem to be used to project alienation and tragic anguish but was there
an agenda to offend as well? My 2 cents.~~

The dialogue is not pointless, Warlus. Otherwise you wouldn’t have found it funny. And yes the slapstick (and more) is projecting a prominent form of alienation and anguish (as ana has so well observed), but the agenda? I have no agendas anymore, Warlus. Only desires. Especially to amuse myself and those who enjoy watching me amuse myself. I’d rather listen to my sense of humor when to laugh than be told by a bloody sit-com laugh-machine, dig?

#32 by Urstruly on August 18, 2004 5:58am PT

~~How rebellious - in a conformist`s sort of way. ~~

How clever – in a sarcastic sort of way.

#33 by nikki7777
Sickki7777, you’re such a dude, man. All 7 of you. And thank you for sharing with us your latest favorite fetish. At least we now know that you DO take the occasional bath. And too, golden.

#34 by Nass
~~ Nadeem. I dare you to top this~~
Nass, one piece of literary absurdism (or for that matter any absurdity) cannot top another. Thus yours is an absurd question.

#33 jang
~~bhagiraja, it was reaaaly long and that was the biggest problem with us short-attention spanners. and yet the training showed and is immediately apreciated by hp. now, i dont know if it was intentional or not. the article was demeaning to the bovine and definatlely be codemned by RSPCA and the Dalai Lama (that capitalist lap-dog).~~

Jang, I sure hope your tongue is in the cheek, here. Waisay, I think the Dalai Lama should be send to the mountains of Nepal to negotiate peace with that country’s Maoist guerillas on behalf of the Nepali monarchy.

#36 by aboutturn on August 18, 2004 7:22am PT
~~nadeem/baghiraja #18
Now who can possibly be more weird than you. You are hate-able as well as loveable,
charming as well as hedonistic , sexy as well as crude. Take this as a compliment, buster.~~

“Compliment” taken. But this STILL doesn’t change my views about The News. That newspaper I once LOVED to work for but now HATE. Take this as the truth, sister.

#37 HP
~~I was expecting a reply to my post in your own -in your face- style. So lets have it and play with it. May be I will learn some banter-ing(?) skills.~~

But what can I possibly say to a person who calls me ugly and genius in a single post? Other than maybe thank you or up yours you unskillful banterer!!

rgds,
NfP

jang: #35

i certainly can`t speak for pakistanis and glad they are of it, but i for one do not see cows as hindus. anyone who ascribes hinduness to cows is ignorant and absurd.

men and women insult each other by calling each other cows. i think that is more an insult to cows than to men and women. and then fat-bottomed girls (who make the rockin` world go round) are cursorily referred to as cows. poor cows! and poor fat-bottomed girls! we humans are a pathetic lot, we are!

and cows or those related to cows don`t need passports or religion. . .they just need loads of chaara. . .as is expressed in this song:

mere bhains ko DanDa kyooN maara?
woh aa ke chaara khhati thi
tere baap ki woh kya karti thi?

:)

#29 by baaghiraja

I think you misread my post. I have no problem whatsoever with your discussing Pakistan and its leadership in a lighter vain. In fact, I enjoyed it throughly and would remain a fan.

I am not stuck up on National pride or religion as much as the so called secularist from across the border are.

I was expecting a reply to my post in your own -in your face- style. So lets have it and play with it. May be I will learn some banter-ing(?) skills.

nadeem/baghiraja #18
Now who can possibly be more weird than you. You are hate-able as well as loveable,
charming as well as hedonistic , sexy as well as crude. Take this as a compliment, buster.