Salman Siddiqui August 25, 2004
#1 Posted by imran on August 25, 2004 1:35:19 pm
Trying to figure out what’s the point you are trying to make in this article. Besides why some letters are bold? Are you trying to use this forum for some kind of message for “jihadis” as well? After all you just mentioned how good they are in using internet
#2 Posted by malik99 on August 25, 2004 2:31:51 pm
This article could very well have been written by Paul Wolfowitz.
The author states ``It was the first time in Islamic militant history that not only the hostage was savagely beheaded but the act was also recorded on film and then later with professional quality video editing, complete with sound effects, the movie was made available online. ``
Apparently, the author has never seen the pentagon videos of missiles raining down on densely populated cities. The strange thing about these ``surgical`` strikes is that they seem to decapitate multiple men, women and children in one hit.
As for the author`s point about use of internet by the terrorists - i am not sure if he has had a chance to visit www.foxnews.com. Terrorists seem to be posting news about their latest murders quite frequently on such sites.
The author states ``It was the first time in Islamic militant history that not only the hostage was savagely beheaded but the act was also recorded on film and then later with professional quality video editing, complete with sound effects, the movie was made available online. ``
Apparently, the author has never seen the pentagon videos of missiles raining down on densely populated cities. The strange thing about these ``surgical`` strikes is that they seem to decapitate multiple men, women and children in one hit.
As for the author`s point about use of internet by the terrorists - i am not sure if he has had a chance to visit www.foxnews.com. Terrorists seem to be posting news about their latest murders quite frequently on such sites.
#3 Posted by rahul_capri on August 25, 2004 6:15:25 pm
Any analysis should present both sides of the picture.Otherwise it is not an analysis. Everybody knows the reality of Fox and CNN,while they demonize a channel like AL-Jazeera.A suggestion-watch ``Control Room``.
#4 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on August 25, 2004 10:05:54 pm
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#5 Posted by spider on August 25, 2004 10:05:54 pm
True, the Pentagon is responsible for the countless deaths that they so coldly attribute to `collateral damage’. But my question is does this still justify the slaughtering of people like goats-some of them civilians- and then videotaping the murder? Which Islamic junction teaches us that? While condemning others for their heinous acts, we should also take a note of our own inhumane actions and must not support them.
#6 Posted by ballukhan on August 26, 2004 7:08:39 am
Terrorists are megalomaniacs- They get a real high when they raise their guns before millions of TV audiences and terrorize them with the threats of violence. They love being praised as martyrs when they are no more- in short they would do anything for publicity except that the objective of this narcisstic advertisement blitz is to terrorize those who would dare to oppose them in their stated goals of establishing their superiority over others as divinely ordained. Which is the reason why they are called Terrorists!
LEt us not forget that 9/11 was only a publicity event which was well planned like the modern advertisement campaigns of some product- 9/11 was the re-launch of the Jihadism on a world wide scale. The 9/11 campaign was an designed by OBL to create terror in the minds of the Americans and generate a great awe and inspiration in the minds of the Ummah. It was also the world wide launch of OBL as the greatest of all the religious terror leaders in the contemporary history. 9/11 has become the greatest negative publicity campaign that modern Islam is confronted with. And now we have all the copy cats who want to out do OBL in their darings. This band of technological savvy narcisstic guys who think that they need to blow even a bigger hole in civilian populations world over in order to be called the greatest religious leader of all times.
LEt us not forget that 9/11 was only a publicity event which was well planned like the modern advertisement campaigns of some product- 9/11 was the re-launch of the Jihadism on a world wide scale. The 9/11 campaign was an designed by OBL to create terror in the minds of the Americans and generate a great awe and inspiration in the minds of the Ummah. It was also the world wide launch of OBL as the greatest of all the religious terror leaders in the contemporary history. 9/11 has become the greatest negative publicity campaign that modern Islam is confronted with. And now we have all the copy cats who want to out do OBL in their darings. This band of technological savvy narcisstic guys who think that they need to blow even a bigger hole in civilian populations world over in order to be called the greatest religious leader of all times.
#7 Posted by wajahat on August 26, 2004 7:08:39 am
One Man`s Terrorist, is another Man`s Freedom Fighter!
Should the Right Wing Christian Fundamentalist sites, purporting hate about Muslims and targeting Islam in general be banned as well? Should all Zionist Sites imploring people from all over the world to come and live in a subarbia Israeli Occupied Land on some village of displaced Palestinians should also be banned?
Or do you keep watching only one type, one sided, biased Documentaries on channels that represent the right wing imperialist agendas of the American Government?
Which one is it?
Should the Right Wing Christian Fundamentalist sites, purporting hate about Muslims and targeting Islam in general be banned as well? Should all Zionist Sites imploring people from all over the world to come and live in a subarbia Israeli Occupied Land on some village of displaced Palestinians should also be banned?
Or do you keep watching only one type, one sided, biased Documentaries on channels that represent the right wing imperialist agendas of the American Government?
Which one is it?
#8 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on August 26, 2004 7:08:39 am
well said malik99 -- seems chowk`s standards of publication are going down at an astronomically fast pace
#9 Posted by irfanhamid on August 26, 2004 9:13:28 am
Salman Siddiqui,
Please gain some perspective. If you can`t gain it, atleast buy it or rent it. Iraq (and by Iraq I mean the people of the country) has been crushed under 14 years of economic, trade and humanitarian sanctions, and now war. Estimates of children dying during the 10 years after Gulf War I due to malnutrition and unavailability of medicines are anywhere from 400,000 to 1 million. Even so, before the `surgical liberation` of Iraq by the `coalition of the willing`, how many innocent western civilians were beheaded in public by Iraqi insurgents?
While I wish people like Nick Burg hadn`t died, you need to realize a couple of things:
1- He chose to go into an active war zone, no matter what US Army spokespeople say, anyone with half a brain can see that it`s still an active war zone
2- He was there to make a quick buck (as are ALL civilian contractors in Iraq), if someone says he`s there to help the people of Iraq, you can disregard it as bullcrap. We ALL know the motive of an American truck driver working for Halliburton in Iraq at $120,000 a year
I just have one thing to say, you will have a complete right of strongly condemning these insurgents` actions barbaric and uncalled for when:
1- Your own country is occupied (or liberated depending on your mindset)
2- You have undergone sanctions and economic hardship for more than a decade
3- You have seen near and dear ones killed or maimed in `surgical strikes` or as `collateral damage` in urban warfare
If, my dear indignant Mr. Siddiqui, you meet these 3 conditions and STILL hold the same point of view, THEN you can condemn these brutal slaughters.
Regards,
Irfan.
PS: Might I suggest a little less FoxNews and a little more critical and original thinking?
Please gain some perspective. If you can`t gain it, atleast buy it or rent it. Iraq (and by Iraq I mean the people of the country) has been crushed under 14 years of economic, trade and humanitarian sanctions, and now war. Estimates of children dying during the 10 years after Gulf War I due to malnutrition and unavailability of medicines are anywhere from 400,000 to 1 million. Even so, before the `surgical liberation` of Iraq by the `coalition of the willing`, how many innocent western civilians were beheaded in public by Iraqi insurgents?
While I wish people like Nick Burg hadn`t died, you need to realize a couple of things:
1- He chose to go into an active war zone, no matter what US Army spokespeople say, anyone with half a brain can see that it`s still an active war zone
2- He was there to make a quick buck (as are ALL civilian contractors in Iraq), if someone says he`s there to help the people of Iraq, you can disregard it as bullcrap. We ALL know the motive of an American truck driver working for Halliburton in Iraq at $120,000 a year
I just have one thing to say, you will have a complete right of strongly condemning these insurgents` actions barbaric and uncalled for when:
1- Your own country is occupied (or liberated depending on your mindset)
2- You have undergone sanctions and economic hardship for more than a decade
3- You have seen near and dear ones killed or maimed in `surgical strikes` or as `collateral damage` in urban warfare
If, my dear indignant Mr. Siddiqui, you meet these 3 conditions and STILL hold the same point of view, THEN you can condemn these brutal slaughters.
Regards,
Irfan.
PS: Might I suggest a little less FoxNews and a little more critical and original thinking?
#10 Posted by atif2 on August 26, 2004 9:58:00 am
Irfanhamid # 9 - very well put. I would love for salman siddiqui to be sodomized in a liberated country`s `abu ghraib`, then have him perform sexual acts on his fellow prisoners, then have him roll-over in his own excrement. All this, after his mother and sisters have been blown to bits in a ``surgical`` and ``pin prick`` strike. If after that, he still does not feel like slashing some throats, then my hats off to him.
#11 Posted by aquaris on August 26, 2004 11:03:36 am
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LEt us not forget that 9/11 was only a publicity event
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Agreed.....
But then things do not add up.....
My own view....
1-within 20-25 years ... Only those Who control Oil will be the Masters of this World.
2- Admitidly... Arabs
> who are free-slaves of USA have it.... and its USA`s Oil
by proxy. But a clear -cut ownership will be needed.
3- OBL as far as I know .... Is one of the contenders for Saudi Throne.... among
a very Long list or within Family members... and he is among the OUTSIDE family
person.
4- OBL as Well as Saudi Family has/had Bussiness Ties.. with the current American
President Bush.
5- 9/11 Could not have happened Unless and Untill there is 100% Internal Involement
of the USA`s STATE machinery.
6- OBL after that ... and may be a stray Spain Train Blast... is conducting...
his So called Jihadi .... Bomb Blasts in Muslim countires Only..
7- USA has never really tried to Capture OBL ... Other wise a country...
which can photograph Chu-in Lie Bathing in His home backYard way back
in 60`s could have easily done that.
8- All the So called Jihadi`s videos End up at Al-Jazeera Network Only....
..... These are .... things Make the current analysis By mister Salman....
Well...... Just a Run of the Mill ......Post...
#12 Posted by arjun_m on August 26, 2004 6:38:39 pm
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#13 Posted by wajahat on August 27, 2004 7:31:52 am
``It`s like muslims are in denial...and they`re using Iraq as an excuse to stop condemning OBL type terrorism.... ``
How do you compare Denial to Lies ? If you are labelling us Musalmans to be in denial about 9/11, your govt used it as bloody lie to goto war in a country which had nothing to do with 9/11. What Should I blame your paymasters for? Is Denial more lethal a fully blown Imperial War based on nothing but fabrications and lies?
If we are in Denial (Which we are not, 9/11 was a terrible case of chickens coming home to roost after decades of messing around in Afghanistan) than your heroes are liars, fabricators and Right Wing Zealots who will find any reason to persecute those dark corners of world.
How do you compare Denial to Lies ? If you are labelling us Musalmans to be in denial about 9/11, your govt used it as bloody lie to goto war in a country which had nothing to do with 9/11. What Should I blame your paymasters for? Is Denial more lethal a fully blown Imperial War based on nothing but fabrications and lies?
If we are in Denial (Which we are not, 9/11 was a terrible case of chickens coming home to roost after decades of messing around in Afghanistan) than your heroes are liars, fabricators and Right Wing Zealots who will find any reason to persecute those dark corners of world.
#14 Posted by imran on August 27, 2004 8:23:19 am
I am wondering from where you got 80% figure about Pakistanis who think OBL is a hero (even you are leaving FOX far behind). Besides I am not seeing any reasoning in your arguments, more of a right winger Hind, whose Hinduism is based on Muslim rivalry no matter how irrational.
#15 Posted by Ralph on August 27, 2004 8:23:19 am
Islam as a Way of Life
I have repeatedly denounced Islam as a way of barbarians. The responses to this article once again reassure me that I am right, dead right.
There may be some good people born into Islamic households. That is not the point. The key to Islam is that this barbaric mindset blinds millions of otherwise educated and decent people to the animalism of Islamic slaughtering of human beings, promotion of vice, and rampant suppression of virtue and freedom.
A few good men and women mean zilch in the world of such a beastly mindset. In fact, when they begin to defend Islam, they become our deadliest enemies, the great enablers of Islamic beasts.
I have repeatedly denounced Islam as a way of barbarians. The responses to this article once again reassure me that I am right, dead right.
There may be some good people born into Islamic households. That is not the point. The key to Islam is that this barbaric mindset blinds millions of otherwise educated and decent people to the animalism of Islamic slaughtering of human beings, promotion of vice, and rampant suppression of virtue and freedom.
A few good men and women mean zilch in the world of such a beastly mindset. In fact, when they begin to defend Islam, they become our deadliest enemies, the great enablers of Islamic beasts.
#16 Posted by kkkandk on August 27, 2004 9:03:06 am
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#17 Posted by wajahat on August 27, 2004 9:03:06 am
Ralph is a biggot and he just keep reenforcing this through his Islam Bashing posts.
#18 Posted by arjun_m on August 27, 2004 12:18:22 pm
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#19 Posted by imran on August 27, 2004 1:40:55 pm
For sure I like the facts with numbers, if they are coming from some reputable source, they speak louder then your idiot assumptions.
And if you are believing on any provided numbers, then I think my next door Canadian neighbor is quite right in saying that “90% Indian males are f*got” based on his observation about there life style in North America.
And if you are believing on any provided numbers, then I think my next door Canadian neighbor is quite right in saying that “90% Indian males are f*got” based on his observation about there life style in North America.
#20 Posted by vertex on August 27, 2004 2:02:25 pm
Ralph,
If indeed an end goal of Islam is to eradicate people like yourself from the face of this unvierse, then I applaud the choice my ancestors made. Just a shame they were so derelict in their mission (as you would have it...). *Sigh*...is there ever an excuse for being lazy when the cause is so noble and just?
If indeed an end goal of Islam is to eradicate people like yourself from the face of this unvierse, then I applaud the choice my ancestors made. Just a shame they were so derelict in their mission (as you would have it...). *Sigh*...is there ever an excuse for being lazy when the cause is so noble and just?
#21 Posted by arjun_m on August 27, 2004 3:39:43 pm
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#22 Posted by mariam_k on August 31, 2004 9:51:06 am
Islam means the religion of peace.
Decapitating people and making videos of it does not come in the way of Islam...
I dont remember hearing any of our messengers and leaders treating their prisoners of war with such barbarity... and anyways some of the people being killed are those captured of the road like the two pakistanis murdered earlier....wat was their fault? and their families` ?
I wudnt call it the freedom movement in the name of Islam. They are painting the wrong picture of Islam allowing non beleivers to get a chance to speak their will... as they are doing so...
Decapitating people and making videos of it does not come in the way of Islam...
I dont remember hearing any of our messengers and leaders treating their prisoners of war with such barbarity... and anyways some of the people being killed are those captured of the road like the two pakistanis murdered earlier....wat was their fault? and their families` ?
I wudnt call it the freedom movement in the name of Islam. They are painting the wrong picture of Islam allowing non beleivers to get a chance to speak their will... as they are doing so...
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