Indian Classical Music in Lahore

It is interesting t see the currents and countercurrents among and within each respondent. It is obvious that the classical and popular musics are the most obvious bonds between the two population groups. Keep on talking and thinking of the bonds that bind and sooner or later they start acting across the artificial boundaries!!!!!

Hamid:

So why did you say that you like the idea? What a hypocrite.

I would like to report that the artiste community in Pakistan is not at all narrow-minded. They are proud of their identity and yet graciously accept that much of their heritage is part Indian.

I have often wondered, though, as to why Hindu musicians prefix their names with Pandit and Muslims with Ustad...and why is there no honorific title for women? Gangubai Hangal, Shobha Gurtu, Kishori Amonkar...

#11 by hamid_81:

[People like me would probably NEVER go where Hindus are playing. And frankly, hindu artists should not be allowed to perform in Pakistan.]

Don`t say that, please. Not after even sideys like Shilpa Shetty get feted there...

People like me would probably NEVER go where Hindus are playing. And frankly, hindu artists should not be allowed to perform in Pakistan.

SPIC MACAY is strictly a Non Political / Secular student based movement; therefore I would humbly request all to look beyond the box.
Our aim is to bring the message of peace and contentment though our musical tradition.
Just give us a chance guys!!!!
Thanks

People like Hamid_81 should not be allowed in to auditoriums where Hindus are playing.

I like the idea. :)

Harimau ... do you know how the word ``shastra`` is used ?

What is arthashastra ?
What is Bharata`s contribution to Music and Dance ?

What is the natyashastra ?

Dude - you must spend time reading/understanding the original texts and the various traditions before commenting.

Re:dionysus#2

Sirjee, for the sake of regional cooperation and maintaining the current atmosphere of goodwill, let`s call it South Asian Classical Music!! Happy? :-)

Ref dionysus #2

[``Indian classical music``? We call it Pakistani classical music.]

Personally, I tend to call it ``Persian Classical Music`` or ``Hindustani Classical Music``. I refuse to call it ``Shastriya Sangeet`` since I believe this music has only a tenuous connection to any shastras.

On the other hand, if SPIC-MACAY had chosen to include a couple of Carnatic musicians in the group, they would have made your heads spin by their music`s rhythmic complexity.

Your loss, toots!

Ballukhan

Ironic, isn`t it? :)

At least in the case of Mohanjodaro there was the intervening variable of time. Here, merely politics.

``Indian classical music``? We call it Pakistani classical music.

That is interesting! It is like the Britishers recounting the story of Mohenjodaro to the very dwellers of that land who have forgotten their legacy.
How interesting it would be to tell the Pakis that the weakest Moghul of their Pak Studies was the most cultured person of ``their`` times and that the Indians take great pride in considering his court songs as ``Indian`` Classical Music. Two cheers for Mohammad Shah Rangeeley and Niyamat Khan!

Navin

Let music flow and enrich our lives. We need a lot of it.

thanks.

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