sameena khan September 15, 2004
#34 Posted by amit on September 16, 2004 4:43:06 pm
Re:#27
Well it is a question of probabilities. It is rare to find a very caring gori or ABCD girl. Since they have grown up in a culture of instant gratification, they love to share your good times. But when times are bad, they cannot handle the hardship and tend to walk away. Among Americans, a job loss can trigger a breakdown in the relationship. I have seen many cases where the desi guy got divorced from the gori/ABCD and went back to India for a traditional marriage.
Well it is a question of probabilities. It is rare to find a very caring gori or ABCD girl. Since they have grown up in a culture of instant gratification, they love to share your good times. But when times are bad, they cannot handle the hardship and tend to walk away. Among Americans, a job loss can trigger a breakdown in the relationship. I have seen many cases where the desi guy got divorced from the gori/ABCD and went back to India for a traditional marriage.
#33 Posted by echoboom on September 16, 2004 4:43:05 pm
Repeated for public convenience & record.
tampoN #32
wrote
[``echobust:
no and yes...but not the vulgar, frothing i-am-a-muslim-u-r-not-a-muslim kind with multiple nicks to assuage ego.``]
tampon #29
claimed
{``desis thrive on rumours.``}
and then admits he is a desi but then says he does not thrive on rumours.
Explain! O desi, how do you NOT thrive on rumours.
No wiggle , wriggle room here. Explain!
[No anger here Urstruly, Malik99 and Khamkhwa: Just smiling & laughing now; having lots of fun here]
tampoN #32
wrote
[``echobust:
no and yes...but not the vulgar, frothing i-am-a-muslim-u-r-not-a-muslim kind with multiple nicks to assuage ego.``]
tampon #29
claimed
{``desis thrive on rumours.``}
and then admits he is a desi but then says he does not thrive on rumours.
Explain! O desi, how do you NOT thrive on rumours.
No wiggle , wriggle room here. Explain!
[No anger here Urstruly, Malik99 and Khamkhwa: Just smiling & laughing now; having lots of fun here]
#32 Posted by temporal on September 16, 2004 1:01:03 pm
echobust:
no and yes...but not the vulgar, frothing i-am-a-muslim-u-r-not-a-muslim kind with multiple nicks to assuage ego
:)
no and yes...but not the vulgar, frothing i-am-a-muslim-u-r-not-a-muslim kind with multiple nicks to assuage ego
:)
#31 Posted by echoboom on September 16, 2004 12:38:47 pm
Urstruly:30
O.K O.k and you did make the point very well. But the purpose was to flush out the usuual suspects and that has been accomplished.
tempoo:29
Do you thrive on rumours. Are you a desi?
O.K O.k and you did make the point very well. But the purpose was to flush out the usuual suspects and that has been accomplished.
tempoo:29
Do you thrive on rumours. Are you a desi?
#30 Posted by Urstruly on September 16, 2004 11:03:26 am
echo
you remind of the father who admonishes his son by saying ``abey haramzaday ab gaali di tau zubaan kaat dooN ga``.
I wouldn`t beleive the ``rumors`` about the hospital whatever they are. My own aunt (khaalaaji) lost her battle with cancer in this hospital. I witnessed, this woman who was once the most beautiful girl in our family, lying on that hospital bed like a slab of meat, with a bald head and both breasts cut off. This hospital was not only her but our last hope as well. We couldn`t save her but we know that we did all that we could. If it weren`t for Imran Khan we wouldn`t be able to claim that today. If we are not ready to consider Imran a saint yet then the least we can do is to extend the dignity of human being to him.
Plz calm down.
you remind of the father who admonishes his son by saying ``abey haramzaday ab gaali di tau zubaan kaat dooN ga``.
I wouldn`t beleive the ``rumors`` about the hospital whatever they are. My own aunt (khaalaaji) lost her battle with cancer in this hospital. I witnessed, this woman who was once the most beautiful girl in our family, lying on that hospital bed like a slab of meat, with a bald head and both breasts cut off. This hospital was not only her but our last hope as well. We couldn`t save her but we know that we did all that we could. If it weren`t for Imran Khan we wouldn`t be able to claim that today. If we are not ready to consider Imran a saint yet then the least we can do is to extend the dignity of human being to him.
Plz calm down.
#29 Posted by temporal on September 16, 2004 10:50:41 am
echoboom:
desis thrive on rumours
there are rumours about everybody in pakistan...the list includes edhi, burney, this maulana and that maulvi...
the fact that cannot be denied is that he raised that institution and it is thriving providing medical cae to those in need...
there are some religious institutions that also provide medical care to the needy...free dispensaries and consultation and medicines...along with providing training for misguided and bigoted jihadis...but nothing on imran khan`s scale...and there is a lot of talk about the double life of the founders of those madresas too!
desis thrive on rumours
there are rumours about everybody in pakistan...the list includes edhi, burney, this maulana and that maulvi...
the fact that cannot be denied is that he raised that institution and it is thriving providing medical cae to those in need...
there are some religious institutions that also provide medical care to the needy...free dispensaries and consultation and medicines...along with providing training for misguided and bigoted jihadis...but nothing on imran khan`s scale...and there is a lot of talk about the double life of the founders of those madresas too!
#28 Posted by echoboom on September 16, 2004 10:40:14 am
malik99:
There are ``rumours`` about hospital too. I`ve talked to people who have had the experience of this ``charity`` treatment.
Cancer ranks far lower in a country where fear for life, suicides, malaria , typhoid and so many other poor man`s diseases , especially those of children, should be a priprity. Is it not a shame that children are being sent to India for cheaper treatment?
One day this will come out as well. Seta Whites case is less about his proclivities but more about his characterless dead-beat dad `performance`. Such person should never ever been entrusted with any donation money or power-position. He is a duBBaa-peer in a west-striped mind.
I hope and pray that I`m wrong.
Giving some benefit of doubt I sometimes get the feeling that the purpose for the hospital might have other angles with other than medical benefits for the nation. Acquiring super- technology being one of them.
There are ``rumours`` about hospital too. I`ve talked to people who have had the experience of this ``charity`` treatment.
Cancer ranks far lower in a country where fear for life, suicides, malaria , typhoid and so many other poor man`s diseases , especially those of children, should be a priprity. Is it not a shame that children are being sent to India for cheaper treatment?
One day this will come out as well. Seta Whites case is less about his proclivities but more about his characterless dead-beat dad `performance`. Such person should never ever been entrusted with any donation money or power-position. He is a duBBaa-peer in a west-striped mind.
I hope and pray that I`m wrong.
Giving some benefit of doubt I sometimes get the feeling that the purpose for the hospital might have other angles with other than medical benefits for the nation. Acquiring super- technology being one of them.
#27 Posted by Ralph on September 16, 2004 10:25:48 am
amit #25
How can you write what you wrote?!
``Any discerning desi male knows that you can have all the fun with goris and ABCDs before marriage but you never, ever marry them, because they have no concept of loyalty and will leave you if times are bad. Imran thought he was special...poor guy!!``
Women born in the US are more independent but that doesn`t mean they can`t be loyal when the times are bad! Some ABCD girls are everybit as `cultured` as those back home.
How can you write what you wrote?!
``Any discerning desi male knows that you can have all the fun with goris and ABCDs before marriage but you never, ever marry them, because they have no concept of loyalty and will leave you if times are bad. Imran thought he was special...poor guy!!``
Women born in the US are more independent but that doesn`t mean they can`t be loyal when the times are bad! Some ABCD girls are everybit as `cultured` as those back home.
#26 Posted by Jibbe on September 16, 2004 10:03:35 am
oh this is just too funny...i hope that vein does burst!
#25 Posted by amit on September 16, 2004 10:03:35 am
Sameena,
Some Pakistanis are taking this Imran-Jemima issue personally for two reasons -
a. Imran is there hero who led Pakistan in Cricket and represents the jaanbaaz Pakistani male. Hence his rejection is interpreted as a rejection of Pakistan.
b. Jemima had embraced conservative islamic behavior which she has now renounced. If she had left Imran but maintained a conservative behavior it would have been ok. But she has gone to other extreme - from the burqa to the bikini. This is being interpreted as a rejection of Islam by her.
Hence the constant heartburn on this matter, although it is obvious that she just dumped an older has-been and returned back to her roots. This is natural behavior for goris. Basically Imran overestimated himself with her. Any discerning desi male knows that you can have all the fun with goris and ABCDs before marriage but you never, ever marry them, because they have no concept of loyalty and will leave you if times are bad. Imran thought he was special...poor guy!!
Some Pakistanis are taking this Imran-Jemima issue personally for two reasons -
a. Imran is there hero who led Pakistan in Cricket and represents the jaanbaaz Pakistani male. Hence his rejection is interpreted as a rejection of Pakistan.
b. Jemima had embraced conservative islamic behavior which she has now renounced. If she had left Imran but maintained a conservative behavior it would have been ok. But she has gone to other extreme - from the burqa to the bikini. This is being interpreted as a rejection of Islam by her.
Hence the constant heartburn on this matter, although it is obvious that she just dumped an older has-been and returned back to her roots. This is natural behavior for goris. Basically Imran overestimated himself with her. Any discerning desi male knows that you can have all the fun with goris and ABCDs before marriage but you never, ever marry them, because they have no concept of loyalty and will leave you if times are bad. Imran thought he was special...poor guy!!
#24 Posted by echoboom on September 16, 2004 10:03:35 am
Urstruly, Khamkhwa, and malik99:
[khamkhwa: How can you be wrong? The entire nation has been pidr-sokhtaaed post 9/11--1948; The pidrs really never left. Some consider it an honour, some do`nt. ]
Urstruly: Your advice is valuable & appreciated. Amr bil maroof, & nihi al munkir is a good reminder. Thanks again.
Malik99: ditto as above.
Thanks guys but it is NOT about the person per se. It is about the selectivity with which people are treated in our society.
It is westernised-trash in Pakistan which holds all the keys to power through its club, gymkhana
and army-stores mentality. How many of these do-gooder foreign funded and blessed ones decide to ask for divorce because the husband a rishvat-khore. In fact the westernised-trash particularly seeks those in marriage who has ooper-kee amadni & has alien-looks.
Maulana Sattar Edhi (shrugged shoulder) is g--ooo-d too; but Imraan Khaan, bhaee vah vah.[ angraiz kaa bachaa lagtaa hai]
[khamkhwa: How can you be wrong? The entire nation has been pidr-sokhtaaed post 9/11--1948; The pidrs really never left. Some consider it an honour, some do`nt. ]
Urstruly: Your advice is valuable & appreciated. Amr bil maroof, & nihi al munkir is a good reminder. Thanks again.
Malik99: ditto as above.
Thanks guys but it is NOT about the person per se. It is about the selectivity with which people are treated in our society.
It is westernised-trash in Pakistan which holds all the keys to power through its club, gymkhana
and army-stores mentality. How many of these do-gooder foreign funded and blessed ones decide to ask for divorce because the husband a rishvat-khore. In fact the westernised-trash particularly seeks those in marriage who has ooper-kee amadni & has alien-looks.
Maulana Sattar Edhi (shrugged shoulder) is g--ooo-d too; but Imraan Khaan, bhaee vah vah.[ angraiz kaa bachaa lagtaa hai]
#23 Posted by temporal on September 16, 2004 9:57:04 am
Urstruly:
agree with you fully in #18
as for #22...he is incorrigible and irredeemable…prayers might work…though am not very sure of their efficacy in his case…
rgds,
t
agree with you fully in #18
as for #22...he is incorrigible and irredeemable…prayers might work…though am not very sure of their efficacy in his case…
rgds,
t
#22 Posted by Urstruly on September 16, 2004 9:06:20 am
Echo
You should calm down, for God`s sakes or I am pretty sure that a vein will bust in your temple soon. ghussa haraam hay - shouldn`t that be enough for you; why you transgress then?
#21 Posted by malik99 on September 16, 2004 9:04:24 am
echo sahib - I think you are being too harsh on Imran. A poor man taking his cancer ridden mother to the Shaukat Khanum hospital will not pause and reflect on Imran`s personal life. He has done more for pakistan by that one act of building a hospital than many of who lead a puritanical life without any acts of charity that benefit the less fortunate.
#20 Posted by khamkhwa. on September 16, 2004 9:04:24 am
chacha boom boom...
...the way you are incessantly `booming` on forces me to conclude that the pidar sokhta did something to you in your younger days...am i right...?
...the way you are incessantly `booming` on forces me to conclude that the pidar sokhta did something to you in your younger days...am i right...?
#19 Posted by echoboom on September 16, 2004 8:46:15 am
This from Iran Regional power board is apt here as well.
``Sure to flush out near-muslims, margarine muslims, Haraamkhore muslims , munaafique muslims and the westernised scum.
Put up the tik-tiky and release the Jallaads.``
Its working!
The real issue is why this zaani is roaming around free? Why are not women`s groups ( ngo`s--the westernised scum) not demanding the same punishments meted out to adultresses elsewhere. How come the hookers-for-Bookers have nothing bad to write about this greatest of the treat-woman-as-sex-object mantras.
Clinton good good, Imran khan good good--harem men bad bad, 4-wives man bad bad.
Is`nt it surprisingly refreshing that now there is no more gloat-posts about haraamkaree ( nudge nudge wink wink: `` don`t ask me for details about my carribbean cruise``), and Haramkhorees ( merlots? ah! the weed: `` but I`m a maaadren muslim. do goraa stuff often``)
Its working!
The tik-tikki is always a great deterrant. Public humiliartion is a must & in a muslim society it is important that such behaviour is never exhibited with deeda-dilairee , let alone taking pride in it. Like rishvat in na-pakistan.
as I said : Lukhh laanut on pidr-sokhtaas.
``Sure to flush out near-muslims, margarine muslims, Haraamkhore muslims , munaafique muslims and the westernised scum.
Put up the tik-tiky and release the Jallaads.``
Its working!
The real issue is why this zaani is roaming around free? Why are not women`s groups ( ngo`s--the westernised scum) not demanding the same punishments meted out to adultresses elsewhere. How come the hookers-for-Bookers have nothing bad to write about this greatest of the treat-woman-as-sex-object mantras.
Clinton good good, Imran khan good good--harem men bad bad, 4-wives man bad bad.
Is`nt it surprisingly refreshing that now there is no more gloat-posts about haraamkaree ( nudge nudge wink wink: `` don`t ask me for details about my carribbean cruise``), and Haramkhorees ( merlots? ah! the weed: `` but I`m a maaadren muslim. do goraa stuff often``)
Its working!
The tik-tikki is always a great deterrant. Public humiliartion is a must & in a muslim society it is important that such behaviour is never exhibited with deeda-dilairee , let alone taking pride in it. Like rishvat in na-pakistan.
as I said : Lukhh laanut on pidr-sokhtaas.
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