abdul naeem September 5, 2004
#14 Posted by tintingem on September 6, 2004 8:02:08 am
Firstly, there is a thing called freedom of speech and everybody has a right to exercise it. Naeem did just that. He felt disgusted by the entire process that made Aziz PM and he vent out his feelings through writing at chowk. What`s wrong with that?
Secondly, I don`t think at all that chowk is becoming an anti-paki site. And btw, what good things do we have to write about? Oh yea, the progress...how can I ignore a couple of flyoves and roads that are being built in Karachi (finally!!!). If building roads and flyovers and parks is what we term as progress then we deserve to remain a third world nation.
Thirdly faisaluno, Aziz won`t resign...I doubt if he even knows about chowk. So, don`t worry yourself over that or the fact that chowk is run by expats who also let interacts such as yours be posted.
Secondly, I don`t think at all that chowk is becoming an anti-paki site. And btw, what good things do we have to write about? Oh yea, the progress...how can I ignore a couple of flyoves and roads that are being built in Karachi (finally!!!). If building roads and flyovers and parks is what we term as progress then we deserve to remain a third world nation.
Thirdly faisaluno, Aziz won`t resign...I doubt if he even knows about chowk. So, don`t worry yourself over that or the fact that chowk is run by expats who also let interacts such as yours be posted.
#13 Posted by Godot on September 6, 2004 8:01:14 am
I believe Shaukat Aziz may be the best thing that has happened to Pakistan in a long time.
Faisal and twintopaz -
when you have a site that doesn`t pay to the writers and accepts political writings from any Tom, Dick and Harry, what you get is crap. I don`t think Chowk is ``anti Pakistan`` or ``anti Islam.`` I think, unfortunately for Chowk, most of the political-submissions are from those Pakistanis who have axe to grind without offering an intelligent solution. These articles are not exactly op-ed page articles of a reputable newspaper. Looking at the standard of political writings published at Chowk, trust me, policy makers don`t read Chowk. They know where these opinions belong: in a trash can. Yes, it`s too bad for Chowk that they cannot find intelligent and balanced articles to publish. Chowk is a site that could have been.
#12 Posted by nasah on September 6, 2004 8:01:13 am
why complain -- Shaukat Aziz was democratically elected under Guided Democracy -- by Guide Musharraf under the Guidance of Guide Azam General Bush......
Guided Democrcy -- is a special form of Democracy of Enlightened Moderation -- based upon regional local conditions suitable for third world`s militaro-religious countries -- like Pakistan....
..... whereby the Guides pick the candidate and guide him thru guided polling stations under guided polling officers -- who guide the voters to carry the guided voting purchis to stuff in the guided polling boxes...
......if a voter could not make it or is dead -- the Gracious Guides will graciously stuff the purchis on behalf of the absentee voter instead of giving him or her the trouble of being resurrected and born-again and then coming to those guided polling booths in 110 degrees of heat and sun...
there is no doubt that mr. Shaukat Aziz is a duly elected Prime Minister -- he is good for Pakistan -- because Shrewd Shaukat is the first Prime Minister who has dicovered the root cause of ALL the ills of Pakistan -- ``Pakistanis are backward because Pakistanis are` less Islamic than the United States and the United Kingdom``....
what is good for Uncle Born-Again Sam is good for Shaukat`s Born-Again Islamistan ...
...what`s wrong with that....?
#11 Posted by twintopaz on September 6, 2004 1:35:03 am
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#8 Posted by harish_hyd on September 5, 2004 10:56:47 pm
[Pakistan and Musharraf has done more, much more than enough for the Americans. No single country/ individual has done more for the Americans; not even the American poodle Blair/ United Kingdom.]
Every now and then, our Paki friends come up with gems like these. Just what has Pakistan done? Create and shelter the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, selectively round up some of them, hand them over to the US, and collect the US bounty check? All this while the deadly duo Osama and Mullah Omar, and their trusted lieutenants hide in the FATA planning the next round of attacks on the Great Satan?
Every now and then, our Paki friends come up with gems like these. Just what has Pakistan done? Create and shelter the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, selectively round up some of them, hand them over to the US, and collect the US bounty check? All this while the deadly duo Osama and Mullah Omar, and their trusted lieutenants hide in the FATA planning the next round of attacks on the Great Satan?
#7 Posted by ballukhan on September 5, 2004 10:32:19 pm
1. Now is high time to say to the Americans, enough is enough;
2.At the same time we should renounce the use of religio-militant entities, as proxies to further our strategic interests, by creating mayhem and violence in neighboring countries.
3. We should also eschew any delusions of empire-building in our neighbourhood.
Who will bell the cat??
2.At the same time we should renounce the use of religio-militant entities, as proxies to further our strategic interests, by creating mayhem and violence in neighboring countries.
3. We should also eschew any delusions of empire-building in our neighbourhood.
Who will bell the cat??
#6 Posted by SameerJB on September 5, 2004 10:32:19 pm
teshah #2:
That is one interesting post....``we are backward because we are less Islamic.....nimaze ishkaka??? and following poet Iqbal.......``what a stupid begining with an army of 60 ministers, pak army with na-pak generals.....I read on chowk unplugged about a cartoon on geo-tv. It goes something like, ``Musharraf can easily make Bush win elections.........by offering him to run from Tharparkar``.......now this is funny!!!
#5 Posted by arjun_m on September 5, 2004 10:32:19 pm
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#4 Posted by faisaluno on September 5, 2004 10:32:19 pm
such heartfelt pleadings...i bet after shaukat aziz reads this, he will resign and get on he first flight to ny.
waisay is`nt it funny that editors, who are expats and probably include indians, publishing an article arguing that successful expat pakis are traitors. also funny that editors in pushing their agendas are relying on authors who lack the inteligence to crack 500 on toefl.
chowk really is scrapping bottom of the barrel.
#3 Posted by nasah on September 5, 2004 8:21:43 pm
``His top priority was the performance of the ritual of Umra himself`` -- or may be a political Umra -- Karachi to Dubai to Mecca.....
#2 Posted by teshah on September 5, 2004 7:34:46 pm
Wonderful analysis! But what about Shoukat`s latest metamorphosis. He was projected by media, especially the governmental one, as a modern technocrat, a true follower of Quaide Azam`s teachings, but he is now showing up as a rank ritualistic theocrat. His top priority was the performance of the ritual of Umra himself and also to enable the families of those who died when he escaped the blast, to do the same. Then he made a statement that we are backward because we are less Islamic (than the west, perhaps). To top it all he has now appealed to the nation to offer `Nimaze Istasqa` on wednesday next to bring down rain on the country. So from an economic wizzard he has turned out to be a rain-making technocrat. Umra, Nimaze Istasqa, etc., are his tools for making an economic tiger of us! It appers Ziai pseudo-Islamist spirit has come to life again in the garb of a so called enlightened technocrat negatig the very spirit of the teachings of the Quaid and the Allama Iqbal which he professed to follow.
#1 Posted by rozaiba on September 5, 2004 5:36:23 pm
``We Don’t Need You Shaukat Aziz``
You tell `em Abdul Naeem! You say it like it is!
I don`t however, quite see the `obviousness` of Shaukat Aziz - America connection. SA is merely a pawn who couldn`t last a second if Musharaf weren`t there. I don`t think PML-Q and other sell-out chamchaaz would refrain from throwing Aziz out simply cause he`s America`s man. Even America`s man would need a local consituency. And the Pakistan Armed forces are his constituency.
Thus far, it seems SA - politically impotent and all - is the Army`s choice for further tinckering.
You tell `em Abdul Naeem! You say it like it is!
I don`t however, quite see the `obviousness` of Shaukat Aziz - America connection. SA is merely a pawn who couldn`t last a second if Musharaf weren`t there. I don`t think PML-Q and other sell-out chamchaaz would refrain from throwing Aziz out simply cause he`s America`s man. Even America`s man would need a local consituency. And the Pakistan Armed forces are his constituency.
Thus far, it seems SA - politically impotent and all - is the Army`s choice for further tinckering.
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