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Free Speech and Intolerance

Dean Ali September 20, 2004

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#12 Posted by itsmarty on March 29, 2005 1:37:25 am
Thanks for plagiarizing yet another of my essays you miserable and lazy jerk.

Martyn Jones
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#11 Posted by Mordant_Muslim on September 22, 2004 11:02:12 am


Ah!--the essence of insularity.

--Ibn
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#10 Posted by Saminasha on September 22, 2004 5:05:14 am
Mr./Ms. Mordant,

what is a ``ring winger``? How are ``ring winger`` atheists?

I`d argue with her, but I`ve decided to take Ali Sahib`s advice and not bother. Ah..I feel better already...

Hamid,

Youre just joking, but my bro had a conversation with an older gentleman who believes the US should just nuke the Middle East...``don`t take it personally!`` he told my brother...what???
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#9 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on September 22, 2004 12:26:38 am
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#8 Posted by Ralph on September 21, 2004 11:19:02 am
MM

It`s no use pretending that everyone is equally open to reason. But, as you said, the author is vague in his expressions, and fails to make a coherent moral argument. How do we know how to identify these `untouchables?` What kind of errors might we run into? Ultimately, what kind of society are we trying to make? And if we don`t engage large sections of populace, what do we do with them?
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#7 Posted by Mordant_Muslim on September 21, 2004 9:43:13 am

``I can never figure out how the self proclaimed religious right-wing justify their worldview to themselves. Throw them out on their backsides with nothing and see how they fend for themselves!``

This is hilarious within itself. Again, you, like Dean Ali, are quite vague on whom these ``right-wing`` fanatics are. Are they religious fanatics of India, Pakistan, Malaysia, or Jordan? Or, are they poppycock right-wing fanatics of the United States of America? You need to clarify ``right-wing`` more clearly.

Furthermore, many ``ring-wingers`` are atheists, not theists. In any case, are they not worthy of an honest debate? Do you have a political axe to grind that thwarts you from dialogue with those of whom you differ? In that sense, you become as insular as those ``right-wingers`` of you fervidly decry.

--Ibn
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#6 Posted by hamidm2 on September 20, 2004 9:16:30 pm
.......... there is no point in talking to anyone we don`t agree with .......we should simply bomb them ............. for me those people include mullahs, romair and the odd indian who refuses to give back kashmir ..............
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#5 Posted by Saminasha on September 20, 2004 5:45:54 pm
Oh hilarious! And yes, there is a great deal of truth in much of this.

I can never figure out how the self proclaimed religious rightwing justify their worldview to themselves. Throw them out on their backsides with nothing and see how they fend for themselves!
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#4 Posted by Mordant_Muslim on September 20, 2004 5:44:21 pm


``As I have stated on numerous occasions, I would not engage the extreme right-wing in any form of debate, in any forum and under any circumstance.``

Notwithstanding the illusions and the dizzying array of the argument, the argument was bereft of any understanding of the concept of debate. Skirting debates with the so-called `fascists`--albeit you`re ambiguous in employing the term--plays right into their manifesto, and is one notch below their belt. Moreover, a `right-winger`--on the same hand--might concede that it is inane to debate with a socialist.

``The United States of America has been widely admired and occasionally admonished for its past approaches to freedom of expression and its notions of democracy.``

America is not a democracy in any sense of the word; America is a constitutional republic that is constitutionally required to respect individual rights.

--Ibn




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#3 Posted by Mordant_Muslim on September 20, 2004 5:44:21 pm


``As I have stated on numerous occasions, I would not engage the extreme right-wing in any form of debate, in any forum and under any circumstance.``

Notwithstanding the illusions and the dizzying array of the argument, the argument was bereft of any understanding of the concept of debate. Skirting debates with the so-called `fascists`--albeit you`re ambiguous in employing the term--plays right into their manifesto, and is one notch below their belt. Moreover, a `right-winger`--on the same hand--might concede that it is inane to debate with a socialist.

``The United States of America has been widely admired and occasionally admonished for its past approaches to freedom of expression and its notions of democracy.``

America is not a democracy in any sense of the word; America is a constitutional republic that is constitutionally required to respect individual rights.

--Ibn




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#2 Posted by Ralph on September 20, 2004 4:41:52 pm
``Unmitigated shiat`` HP called it, and unmitigated shiat this is.

Your good intentions apart, your arguments are neither morally coherent nor cohesive. Do you run away from some discussions because you have not thought through your positions?

On Chowk people engage even Romair in debate! In other words, neither stupidity nor fascism automatically counts a person out.....

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#1 Posted by HP on September 20, 2004 2:51:55 pm

Dean Ali!

You’re full of unmitigated shiat. This whole smorgasbord of your ideas does not make any sense at all. I hope you are not a fascist yourself. How is that you won’t talk to half of the world? I talk to my wife everyday and I think she is an extreme right wing fascist. If I don’t talk to her or honestly, not listen to her my nights would be barren like yours.

All stats in the world would prove that at least half or more than half of this world are fascist pigs. And those pigs think that the other half consists of not pigs but commies rats.
You see the right wing have its Bible, the Quran and what not and what commies rats have?

Nut-in honey!


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Interact Index

    #12 itsmarty
    #11 Mordant_Muslim
    #10 Saminasha
    #9 M.B.Z.Isphahani
    #8 Ralph
    #7 Mordant_Muslim
    #6 hamidm2
    #5 Saminasha
    #4 Mordant_Muslim
    #3 Mordant_Muslim
    #2 Ralph
    #1 HP

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