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Iran’s Bid for Regional Power

abdul naeem September 15, 2004

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#1 Posted by Urstruly on September 15, 2004 12:56:21 pm

It will be a fatal mistake for Iran, not to nuclearize itself.
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#2 Posted by echoboom on September 15, 2004 2:16:50 pm
Great subject indeed. Sure to flush out near-muslims, margarine muslims, Haraamkhore muslims , munaafique muslims and the westernised scum.
Put up the tik-tiky and release the Jallaads.

Let the fun begin.


I have yet to read the article. Just this caught my eye, and so my reply.


[``Iran`s trump card is the geopolitical fact that it is a major oil producer bordering other major oil producers. A large-scale war undertaken by the United States would almost surely lead to a disruption of world oil supplies and the danger that Iran would use its missiles to attack Saudi or Gulf state oil complexes.``]


That can be said as a strategic advantage but the real strtegth comes from character and standing-up to the bull. VietNam , Cuba, Venezuela, China, and even North Korea are good example. Anyone who expresses even the desire to hasten the demise of the United Satans of America & its droolig-dogs the world over is on the side of the oppressed of the world.

Urstruly is right.

Iran and any self-respecting and ghairatmand nation must arm itself with any or all devices irrespective of the ``humanistic`` consequences. Tippu Sultan`s words will always ring true. It is the baighairats from the cantonements, the colonies, and civil lines who have been english-educated to take orders from the masters.
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#3 Posted by hamidm2 on September 15, 2004 6:14:45 pm
regime change in tehran

......... after reading ``lolita in tehran`` my daughter said, ``now i understand why my friend`s parents left iran - it must have been really scary``........... so i read the book, and i was scared too - scared for the millions of young muslim women who are threatened by misogynist monsters in turbans and cloaks ......... a little girl in the book says, `` khomeni is still alive, the women are still wearing scarves`` ........... yes, he is alive, the spirit of the brooding monster lives on - people like echo and mullah urstruly, are lurking in the shadows waiting to pounce on innocent women and unsuspecting men even as their prophet hides in a cave somewhere ``along the border between pakistan and afghanistan``

.......... it is time for regime change in tehran ....... the people of iran have suffered enough and the world cannot afford to wait seventy years for another totalitarian state to fall under its own weight ...... the stakes in human suffering are too high ...........
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#4 Posted by malik99 on September 15, 2004 9:32:20 pm
hamidm # 3 - so you picked up a book recommended to you by your daughter (who by the way called you ``yucky``, as per one of your previous posts), throw in a bit of caustic remarks and a whole lot of generalizations, and lo! a freakin opinion is born. REGIME CHANGE IN IRAN!

hamid sahib - sounds like a regime change is in works in your own home.
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#5 Posted by echoboom on September 15, 2004 10:55:38 pm
jews in Iran
IRAN: Life of Jews Living in Iran
Iran remains home to Jewish enclave.
By Barbara Demick

It is one of the many paradoxes of the Islamic Republic of Iran that this most virulent anti-Israeli country supports by far the largest Jewish population of any Muslim country.

Tehran has 11 functioning synagogues, many of them with Hebrew schools. It has two kosher restaurants, and a Jewish hospital, an old-age home and a cemetery. There is a Jewish representative in the Iranian parliament. There is a Jewish library with 20,000 titles, its reading room decorated with a photograph of the Ayatollah Khomeini.

Khomeini protection
But Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris and issued a ``fatwa`` decreeing that the Jews were to be protected. Similar edicts also protect Iran`s tiny Christian minority.

Just as it radically transformed Muslim society, the revolution changed the Jews. Families that had been secular in the 1970s started keeping kosher and strictly observing rules against driving on Shabbat. They stopped going to restaurants, cafes and cinemas - many such establishments were closed down - and the synagogue perforce became the focal point of their social lives.

Not everyone in the Jewish community favors liberalization of Iranian society. Arizel Levihim, 20, a prospective Hebrew teacher, said Judaism has fared better within the confines of Iran`s strictly religious society. ``I believe it is good for women to keep their head covered. I think it is good to restrict relations between boys and girls,`` Levihim said. ``I agree with the ideals of the Islamic republic. These are Jewish values too.``
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#6 Posted by ferozk on September 15, 2004 11:28:26 pm
Iran always wanted to dominate the region as a regional power, but the revolution of 1979 delayed the fait accompli. The only major differences between Iranian political aims under the Shah and under the present government, is that under the Shah, Iran would have been United States` client state. Under the present government, Iran would be ``self-employed`` and as an independent regional power, it would create a multipolarity of interests, which would threaten the economic hegemony of the United States over the oil producing regions of the Middle East.

Ciao
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#7 Posted by hamidm2 on September 16, 2004 7:04:26 am
malik mian,

........... as odd as it might sound to misogynist momins, i actually listen to the women in the household .............actually, since they outnumber me three to one, it is rather prudent

........ and yes, i have been reading all the books my poor daughters are assigned for summer reading by sadistic english teachers just to share in their suffering - it is one of the perils of fatherhood .............. and no, my daughter does not think i am ``yucky``, she was referring to the other desi uncles whose nose and ear hair is rather disgusting - and you know who they are! .............. as a matter of fact the girls never tire of telling me that i am ``the coolest abu in the whole wide world`` (and, by the way, all their paki friends agree even though their parents panic and start reciting the ayat-ul-qursi and laholaywalaquwat when they see me coming)

....... in any case, i still think it is time for a regime change in iran - the poor people of iran made a contract with the devil but that does not mean their future generations have to suffer ....... now, i am not advocating that the marines have to march into tehran ........... but it is our moral obligation to help lolita free herself from the clutches of humbert humbert ........... no?
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#8 Posted by arjun_m on September 16, 2004 7:04:27 am
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#10 Posted by hamidm2 on September 16, 2004 7:04:27 am
echo,

........... what about the bahais and other dhimmis ?...... are they too flourishing in iran ?........ did you see the full page ad in the ny times last sunday ?........ it seems your precious mullahs, having driven out the poor bahais, are now busy tearing down all vestiges of their past in the land of their prophet ........... soon there will be no sign of bahais in iran, just as there is no sign of the kafir and the jew in mecca .............
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#11 Posted by Jibbe on September 16, 2004 7:05:15 am
This is a little off topic, but George Bush in his speech to the U.S. which was broadcast to Iraq two days before the war began said the following:

In free Iraq there will be no more wars of aggression against your neighbors, no more poison factories, no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near.

No more torture chambers and rape rooms - well Abu Ghuraib and other examples got rid of that illusion.
No more wars of aggression on your neighbors - at the same time the U.S. is threatning Iran and Syria??
No more poison factories - well, there were none to begin with.

Irony has been given a new meaning, thanks to George W.!!!

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#12 Posted by Jibbe on September 16, 2004 7:05:15 am
echoboom: you finally make a good point.
Muslims shoud learn to differentiate between Jews and Zionists. The former being the people of the book and the cousins of the Arabs, we believe in the same God and we share similiar prophets and traditions.
Zionists on the other hand....well why get into it, thats another long topic.
But its important to remember that all Jews are not zionists, and Khomeini`s main concern was the freedom of the Palestinians from the Israeli occupation.
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#13 Posted by Jibbe on September 16, 2004 7:05:15 am
Iran wants to go nuclear - and it should, it has the right too. However, I pity many of the Arab countries and Iran who think that the only way to gain respect and to progress in the world is to arm themselves and for the Palestinian issue to be solved.
What a load of bullshit (excuse my french).
If Iran wants to go nuclear, how about first solving the many social/economic issues which have bogged it down over the years. Instead, these mullahs who run the country will go nuclear, get more sanctions put in place on them, cripple the economy, the young and old will be frustrated/poor (iran cant even turn to its arab brethren who despise the former. The Arabs didnt even come to Saddams aid after he fought the war on Iran, instead, Kuwait helped cripple Iraq`s economy even further by raising production of oil and pumping oil illegally from Iraq`s southern borders)
The economy which is already stagnant will cripple, and the resulting chaos that it will bring the country (which is already outcast) - will be dire.

Now Urstruly and echoboom, the resident mullahs of chowk, will argue that every country has a right to go nuclear. Yes, every country does have a right, but can they not progress towards that goal while taking into account the world order, and the conditions of their own people which are at best poor. That is my point of view, ofcourse others are free to agree/disagree, but i often feel that its best not to jump the gun. Iran has more potential than any other arab country because its people are open minded and importantly more educated. With oil revenues being hurt by sanctions - i only wish this country could get back on its feet and play a role in the world today, because like i earlier mentioned, no country has more potential than Iran.
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#14 Posted by nikki7777 on September 16, 2004 8:11:00 am
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#15 Posted by malik99 on September 16, 2004 8:46:15 am
jibbe - you said ``If Iran wants to go nuclear, how about first solving the many social/economic issues which have bogged it down over the years. ``

Imagin if Iraq was armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons as well as long range missiles that could hit Israel. Were that the case, Iraqis would not be having the ``social issues`` that they are having now. In fact, just yesterday there was a major ``social issue`` - 47 Iraqis died and 200 were injured from the sharpnels of the exploding issue.
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#16 Posted by malik99 on September 16, 2004 9:04:24 am
hamidm - As for regime change, don`t be a freakin racist that only a white anglosaxon can deliver hapless Iranians from evil. If Iranians can all get together and overthrow the US installed ruthless king who set up the Savak secret service that would skin prisoners alive, then they can also get rid of their current rulers if/when they get sick of them.

and if you are oh so moved by the plight of poor iranian lolitas, are you willing to put your family`s life on line to free them? i doubt it. There probably won`t be a hamidm in the liberation army. The liberation army would be full of Johnny, and Tommy and Jimmy, and Jose and Rico from poor middle america. you are more suited for arm-chair liberation. And as long as you get your morning coffee with a touch of cinnamon and access to internet drop the load off your brain, life is A ok.
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