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Cat is Out of the Bag

abdul naeem September 19, 2004

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#17 Posted by ferozk on September 20, 2004 8:03:00 am
After November 2, 2004, the issue will be settled, whether Musharraf keeps his uniform or not.

Ciao
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#18 Posted by SameerJB on September 20, 2004 9:01:32 am

I can`t understand the extent of hypocrisy and stupidity of seemingly intelligent and educated people here. I can`t believe that some Pakistani people here think of themselves above the constitution of Pakistan. What is the point of the constitution if everybody makes up mind while completely disregarding the constitution. There, in fact, no difference remains between soldiers of god - radical fundamentalists and musharraf supporters, as far as disregarding the contitution of Pakistan.

Now some of them are feeling regret or disappointment about uniform issue. He took the oath of defending the nation according to the constitution and reneged; he was fired from his job according to the costitution and he refused; he overthrew constitutional government, strangulated supreme court of Pakistan, forced lawful president to resign in order to accumulate further power; he manipulated political process and rigged elections after farcical referendum. This is his resume. Didn`t these Musharraf supporters and MMA know of his track record before jumping on his bandwagon and making deal with him on uniform respectively? The fact is that MMA enjoys much more power in the form of large number of seats in the National Assembly, Senate, two provincial governments and several mayoral positions including that of the largest metropolitan area - Karachi. So what is new about uniform issue knowing Musharraf?

I believe that MMA still prefers military rule over BB or NS because they will defintely lose most of the clout if elections are held fairly and a civilian government is lawfully installed.

According to the constitution, Musharraf is neither COAS, nor president but a criminal; the constitutional amendments and supreme court decisions are postscripts. A crime comitted in 1999 is to be judged according to the existing law; a criminal can not amend the law in 2004 to exonerate himself of all crimes.

How can a Musharraf supporter justify punishing any criminal in Pakistan??? How can a Musharraf supporter criticize any interpretation of hadees or quran, done by any person, any sect, non-muslim or anti-muslim, after believing and dancing over the arbitrary interpretation of constitution and unlawfully making amendments? What principle guides these unprincipled when they call USA invasion of Iraq unlawful? Shame on them for being such a hypocrite!

The question is not about popularity even if one believes that 96 percent people actually like him; the question is not whether a taxi driver in Lalukhet is happy with the way Musharraf speaks or acts; the question is: will Pakistan uphold the supremacy of the most sacred law of the land and will Pakistanis have principles to call a spade a spade even if forex reserves are above 10 billion dollars? But then, 96 percent of Pakistanis like Musharraf and 65 percent of Pakistanis sympathize with Osama Bin Laden clearly suggesting that either half the people like both of them or these numbers are nothing but a farce. Go figure!
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#19 Posted by malik99 on September 20, 2004 9:44:35 am
urstruly # 16 - good one!

When Musharraf completed 5 years of his rule over Pakistan, he wanted a special postage stamp issued, with his picture on it of course. He so instructed the Postmaster General, stressing that it should be of international quality. The stamps were duly released. But then he began hearing complaints that the stamp was not sticking properly, and become furious. He called the chief of the ISI and ordered him to investigate the matter. The chief checked the matter out at several post offices, and then reported on the problem to Musharraf. He said:``Sir, the stamp is really of international quality. The problem is, our citizens are spitting on the wrong side!``
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#20 Posted by HP on September 20, 2004 11:29:09 am
#18 by sameerJB
“What is the point of the constitution if everybody makes up mind while completely disregarding the constitution.”

So Pakistan does have a constitution? That’s news for me. You can have only one thing: the army rule or the constitution. Since 96% of Pakistanis have allegedly asked Mushy babe to stay on, the constitution has effectively been sent to the recycle bin. Either this Bin is going to be emptied out or some day somebody would restore it. What are the odds of restoration of the constitution: 4%, as 96% support mushy babe.
I think Sameer, invoking constitution appears to be the most legal thing to do but the reality is that we don’t have a constitution. What we have now is a piece of paper that is being amended by the army as and when it pleases.
Even if there was a constitution, the mechanism to enforce its clauses that deal with treason does not exist.

So here is my plan to bring democracy in Pakistan.

We know that the Pak Army believes that what is good for India- is NOT good for Pakistan.
Now India has democracy and Pakistan does not and based on the army logic above democracy is not good for Pakistan because it is good for India.
I suggest that we ask the Indian army to takeover in India and end the democracy there. If that happens and the Indian army is ready to oblige Pakistanis, it may go ahead and open the door for democracy in Pakistan.
Once the Pak army finds out that India has abandoned democracy, they may think that democracy is GOOD for Pakistan and may be ENFORCE it in Pakistan with a Martial Law regulation.
In that case, mushy would run for elections for a seat in Parliament. His natural constituency is in Karachi and that too probably Lalokhet.
The problem is that MQM won’t give up that seat and support some Natho khan Pelibhait wala to run against Mushy. We know what the result would be. 96% of people from Lalokhet would vote for Natho Khan Pelibhait wala and 4% would vote for mushy as Altaf bhai said to vote for Natho Khan Pelibhait wala. (He sells cooking oil in Lalokhet.)

So our first step is to write a petition to the Indian Army to takeover in India. After that restoration of democracy in India would be an India problem and Modi probably would find several thousand Muslims to sacrifice their lives for democracy and secularism in India. But in Pakistani will have democracy.
I am setting up a petition to the Indian Army at the petition.com and you will have a link to that petition soon.
Mohar and Arjun.! Any thoughts?


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#21 Posted by Raw_Dust on September 20, 2004 11:29:09 am
sameerjb #18: That was a concise and to the point post regarding the fundamentals of pakistani politics.
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#22 Posted by ahmed2k4 on September 20, 2004 11:29:09 am
In my humble opinion, citizens of Pakistan should simply turn over the country to Fouji Foundation, sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
As for the constitution - we lived without one for a fairly long time and perhaps can live even more comfortably without the one that rarely leaves the Frankenstein`s repair shop.
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#23 Posted by nikki7777 on September 20, 2004 11:29:10 am
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#24 Posted by Ralph on September 20, 2004 12:45:41 pm
HP # 22

May I make a `serious` point?` :)

One of the greatest hindrances to democracy finding roots in Pakistan HAS BEEN India`s attempts to develop as a democracy. Would you agree?
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#25 Posted by mohar11 on September 20, 2004 2:51:55 pm
HP

Sure - give it a shot - send in your petition to Indian Army Chief. I don`t even know who Army Chief is right now. I think they were going create a new super chief called CDS (Chief of Defence Staff) or something - who was supposed to supercede Army Chief. I don`t know what happned to that plan.

Anyway - Paki Army has tasted blood and power and pelf for too long. So no matter what you do - they are not going to let go. So you are out of luck there.
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#26 Posted by HP on September 20, 2004 2:51:55 pm
#24 by Ralph

Ralph-
What makes you think I am not serious? You see that is the problem. People don’t take any idea for democracy in Pakistan seriously!

“One of the greatest hindrances to democracy finding roots in Pakistan HAS BEEN India`s attempts to develop as a democracy”

Why do you think I am soliciting the Indian Army help? Think and look deep. Deep thoughts…

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#27 Posted by Voyager on September 20, 2004 2:51:55 pm
Excellent article Mr. Naeem. I can`t agree with you more. It`s actually quite sad that those who claim to be saviors of our land, who vow to revolutionize the state structure all for ``national interest``, go right out and shatter all hope, for how can you possibly trust your leader if he doesn`t believe in keeping his word. It is nauseating to see Shaukat Aziz encouraging his mentor and speaking his language. Let the nation decide what they want for once. Stop making decisions for us... but hey! Who cares right? Definitely not our ``honorable men``!
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#28 Posted by Ralph on September 20, 2004 4:41:52 pm
Mohar11

Pakistan will have a democracy within five years of India giving up on it..... :(
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#29 Posted by rsridhar on September 20, 2004 7:40:07 pm
#22 by HP
You say:
``Now India has democracy and Pakistan does not and based on the army logic above democracy is not good for Pakistan because it is good for India....``

I think your very assumption is wrong. India definitely thinks Kashmir is good for her. If what u say were true, Pak Army should think Kashmir is not good for Pak and should stop salivating at Kashmir.
Anyway, democrazy will never come to Pak as long as they have this nonsensical idea of trying to achieve parity.
Sridhar
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#30 Posted by arjun_m on September 20, 2004 7:40:07 pm
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#31 Posted by Soulat on September 20, 2004 11:13:58 pm
Can anybody explain this!

India`s railway minister says the Hindu god of machines is responsible for lowering the railroad accident rate in India

Laloo Prasad Yadav said the number of train accidents had declined since he installed a ``bright new photo`` of the god Vishwakarma in his New Delhi office.

Is India back in the dark ages!
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#32 Posted by nasah on September 20, 2004 11:13:58 pm
let`s see -- what Qazi of Adaalat-e Munafeqeen -- does about the about-face of his NWFP benefactor........

nu paye maNdan nu jaye ruftun........
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