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Benazir Bhutto Visits the Bay Area

Ras Siddiqui October 10, 2004

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#48 Posted by rizvioct on October 23, 2004 11:36:30 am
Reference to article by Ms. Nadia Zehra, I couldn`t believe a girl who starts off with the usual nauseating Islamic puke about Jews can in the same breath make an astute observation about Pakistani army and the harm it continues to do to ordinary citizens.
This is not saying that BB is not a thief but this does point to a even more sordid aspect of our national heritage where we are given two equally miserable options.

You think we should all sign a petition to her Majesty Queen Elizabeth to send a us permanent British Governor General to rule us like they use to.
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#47 Posted by Zakkk on October 17, 2004 3:39:11 pm
Mantolives you said:, the PPP`s popular vote was still 3 times as much as the MMA and considerably more than the King`s league....

That`s incorrect, the Kings party fielded less candidates then the PPPP
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#46 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on October 15, 2004 1:29:19 pm
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#45 Posted by Ras on October 14, 2004 9:04:28 pm

In what way was this report anti-Musharraf?

Moderation is being encouraged in Pakistan

so why not help out and join hands with the

largest political party in the country and

its leader, Benazir?

Ras
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#44 Posted by MantoLives on October 14, 2004 11:15:58 am

Well Romair...

Thank God... you are a canadian and not a Pakistani... and thank God no one is holding a gun to your head.

As for Pakistanis ... genuine ones... it seems that despite all odds a great number of them still favors BB over all others... Despite all the pre-Poll rigging to prop up the King`s League and the Mullah diversion, the PPP`s popular vote was still 3 times as much as the MMA and considerably more than the King`s league....

-YLH
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#43 Posted by escapist on October 14, 2004 9:51:32 am
Nadia_Zahra.

Clinton. Peaceful?

Err
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#42 Posted by jang on October 13, 2004 7:55:40 am
#40 by Siddiqua on October 13, 2004 5:38am PT
``It seems that people will continue either to vilify or glorify BB here. That leaves no room for intelligent discussion. ``

good observation. villification is glorification.
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#41 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on October 13, 2004 5:38:05 am
Urstruly:

Your anxieties towards Zardari and his family hood are not stunning. As most of people have made this pre-focus when chattering affairs of state. Let the time decide who is at right.
”Jail Khanay ki Qaid WA Saoobat mai.n koi Criminal apni saza say guzar raha hai”
If you look behind you will see how much growling n snarling had been done with Monica Lewinski and Bill Clinton issue. Clinton was trapped by Jews in the name of Free Media emancipation. And the whole trial which now seems as juvenile was hot topic of continents then. Hilary Clinton despite of such Media pressure helped her husband in going through those hard political times. However it was understandable that Hilary and Clinton mutual conflicts were bubbling in their personal matters.
But didn’t he give democracy to his country. Wasn’t he the peaceful leader at least I saw in short history of observation of US Presidents.
Army has never concurred the opinion of people of Pakistan. No doubt it is an institution of great respect, dignity and security. But it’s appropriate in its bases. Whatever they guiding principles may be. One day they will have to leave. What space of governing they will leave for populace.
Jis Jageh mera Khait tha waha rait dalta ja raha hai Pani
Mujhay kia farq parey ga agar yeh Darya Utter bhi jaye

Their rules will die with them. And that’s why whenever people’s government comes into play people carry bleak opinions about its future and prosperity. The democracy doesn’t establishes in two three years of time frame. This is also empathy that no leader has completed the whole time span of its governance.
Beynazir is accused of disgracing nation by exposing information outside country. Then I say Western media knows more than what our public knows. What we are trying to hide? Military viciousness, suffocation, denouncing of public opinions, corrupt elections, self proclamation by unjust referendum….

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#40 Posted by Siddiqua on October 13, 2004 5:38:04 am
It seems that people will continue either to vilify or glorify BB here. That leaves no room for intelligent discussion.
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#39 Posted by aquaris on October 13, 2004 5:38:03 am




Ok Let me ask again.........



Any News about Mr Zulfiqar ALI Bhutto Junior......


i can see in about 6-10 years..... they will spring him forward......

for another ..... PPP era... in Pakistan....


as the true Hier of PPP and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto......

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#38 Posted by Ras on October 12, 2004 9:18:20 pm


From Dawn Today......



PPP leads in seven NALC constituencies


By Safdar Khan

GILGIL, Oct 12: In a major upset, government-backed candidates are facing defeat, trailing behind Pakistan People`s Party Parliamentarians and independent candidates in many constituencies in the Northern Areas Legislative Council elections held on Tuesday. Independents are said to be faring well in many areas.

According to partial results reaching Gilgit late on Tuesday night, PPP candidates are leading in seven constituencies followed by independents who are leading in six constituencies.

Polling for the 24-seat Northern Areas Legislative Council (NALC) was held peacefully in all the five districts. Only a minor case of violence was reported from the Rondu area of Baltistan.

The Election Commissioner, Muhammad Ghazi Khan, told Dawn that the polling started at 8am and continued till 4pm without any break. The turnout was 30 to 35 per cent.

In 17 constituencies from where partial results were received, the PPP managed to win 7 seats, PML-N, 2, independents 4 and the ruling PML 4. Results from 7 constituencies were awaited. PPP had fielded candidates in 17 constituencies, PML in all the 24 constituencies, JUI-F in 6, PML-N in 7, and JI in 1. A record number of 73 independents were contesting.

According to partial results, two former advisers, Shaikh Ghulam Haider Najfi and Haji Janbaz Khan, and Northern Areas Legislative Council deputy speaker Muhammad Jafar were behind their rivals.



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#37 Posted by Simon_Templar on October 12, 2004 5:46:13 pm
Z.A. Bhutto was a mixed bag. He started some great things (Nuclear, Steel Mill)
and some not so great (casino, murdering his political opponents, losing East Pak).

But there should be a lifetime ban on Benazir (the cokehead of Harvard) and her
whole crooked family from ever stepping foot on Pakistani soil. Even while she is
in self-imposed exile, she has continued to issue highly provocative, irresponsible
press statements that were aimed to jeopardize Pakistan`s standing in the comity
of nations.

IMO, the woman is mentally unfit to hold ANY public office.

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#36 Posted by Urstruly on October 12, 2004 11:07:47 am

Nadia Zehra

I believe that it is Zardari and his badmash father who corrupted an otherwise upright Benazir and heavely contributed towards her political downfall both times. As a husband he was also abusive to her physically. Since Zardari was a senator, and also the First Mr. his corruption is very much a public debate. In both of these capacities his relationship to benazir inevitably becomes a public debate. Compare that to Mr. Thatcher whose name was seldom mentioned in public. I have lost every hope in Benazir, she has practically done nothing for the cause of democracy in Pakistan. A convenient self-exile while living in multi-million dollar mansions out side of the country cannot be termed as political struggle. She is a liar and a charlatan. A couple of years ago I myself was present at the gathering where she was explaining to her white masters that she tried everything that she could to stop NS from conducting nuclear tests, whereas the fact of the matter is that in a public rally in Multan at that time she threw bangles in the crowd chanting that if NS is unable to conduct nuclear tests then he should wear those bangles - an ultimate insult in our culture. Isn`t it a fact that at the time of last elections she offered her services publically to Musharaf to be his Jamali. That doesn`t make a convincing case for her to be champion of democracy. The only difference between Benazir of 80s and Benazir of now is that media is very open now as compared to then. We don`t know for sure what kind of bakwas she had been doing in 80s, but we always gave her benefit of doubt because any news about her always reached us thru the seive of Marshal Law. Now media is open. Now we know very well what these people do when they are out of `business`.

Siddiqua

It is time that we must rise above the personality politics. We must stop projecting any personality whatsoever. Most of the leadership available to Pakistanis have been tried and tested every which way possible in the last 30 years. We can quantify the competence of each and everyone of them. We have to put blame where it belongs. The fact remains that Military is the grand corruptor of all. Unless we break down this criminal enterprise we will always be a nation of corrupt, complacent, unprincipled, and incompetent subalterns. We will always remain subalterns but we will never become citizens. The institution of military must be abolished if Pakistan is to survive. After East Pakistan if we still believe in the survival of remaining Pakistan, while we keep on doing what turned EP into Bangladesh, then God have mercy on us. As the history would attest that nature has never been kind to the dinosaurs.
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#35 Posted by tahmed32 on October 12, 2004 10:31:10 am
SONG OF THE EXILED PAKISTANI POLITICIANS
(To be sung to the tune of ``Home on the Range``)

1. Oh, give me a home
Where the generals roam,
Where rogue pirs and politicans play;
Where seldom is heard
A discouraging word
As they steal from poor Abdul all day

Chorus:
Home free with foreign exchange
Where the people they have no say
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
As the bandits play sahab to poor Abdul all day

2. How often at night
When the heavens are bright
With the lights from the Surrey Palace
Have I been marvelin`
At how from a nation that is starvin`
The PM and hubby could steal so much and still be so fearless
To toss in the kitchen sink and a 100K necklace

Chorus: (Repeat)

3. Oh, give me a land
Where the bright diamond sand
Is lost to whoever is reigning supreme;
While like a graceful white swan
Their BBs go gliding along
Like maids in a heavenly dream.

Chorus: (Repeat)

4. Where the air is so pure,
The bandits so free,
And life is so balmy and light,
That the thugs would not exchange
Their home on rawal range
For all of the world`s cities so bright.

Chorus: (Repeat)

5. Oh, I love those wild powers
For the rich in this dear land of ours,
While the poor in curfew cannot even scream,
And the generals get their plot
And the pious and the drunkard have brought the nation to rot
While poor Abdul is the one who gets blown and gets shot
And the mullahs they howl like sheep wearing green

Chorus: (Repeat)
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#34 Posted by U_two on October 12, 2004 9:22:10 am
i recently attended a course/ training on money laundering ... the trainer was from a very reputed firm based in Europe... benazir / zardari`s money laundering tactics were part of the course material and was one of the case study ... others were Marcos. Suharto, Mobutu ...

Back in 1988 she and her party looked so promising ...

sometimes i think that her corruption was probably her revenge from Pakistanis for not standing up for her father when he was taken to gallows unlawfully by the military...

regardless she should be punished and i hope that she would not lead any future government in pakistan
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#33 Posted by Nadia_Zehra on October 12, 2004 6:48:37 am
By urstruly:

``zardari was the biggest mistake of her life ``

Such low pathetic comment on relational terms. There might be thousands of couples living mistaken lives. Some people think that just critizing relationships and housejobs can be a topic of political discussion. Such arguments leave no room to grow in politics.

If Zardari would have any such things in his mind he would have flown to Jeddah or somewhere else like Nawaz Sharrif in first instance.

After closing every door to Democracy people are saying no hope only loss, No cause... Military is the only hope to cling for survival. Such shallow perspectives...

I see those people who have never put a single vote in the country talk abou its future and
democracy. What a pity...
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