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Is Islam Anti-Semitic?

Gibran Bham October 13, 2004

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#17 Posted by Urstruly on October 14, 2004 7:35:35 am

Jews must laugh their heads off whenever they come across sophomoric pedantry like this article. The fact of the matter is that they are in the process of establishing an empire that spans from Nile to the Eupherates. This is an ideal or an objective that they have inscribed on the front door of the Kenesset building which keeps on reminding their leaders and politicians as to why they were sent there. United States has the same objective but for different reasons, otherwise, it is a matter of three months for US to establish a two state system in the Palestine but that would kill the original objective, now wouldn`t it. That is the reason US torpedoes down each and every effort for peace from international community as well as some superficial efforts by themselves buying Israel more time to expel natives from their lands. It will keep on happening until this objective is met. That is the reason US will never leave Iraq unless of course a humiliating defeat is handed over to it by Iraqis. But that will not stop it from re-occupying Iraq at a later date. Evangalical Chritians in US are praying their hearts out so that the biblcal prophecy could become true. Jews are working hard to turn their prophecies untrue according to which they can never have a state of their own. It is because of these two hate filled, outdated, and simply stupid ideologies and religions that the whole region (and now globally) there is blood shed everywhere (also a part of prophecy). Guess what? these people are quite happy that the part of prophecy that the whole region will be in turmoil has also come true. They will keep it in turmoil until Jesus Christ is descended upon them for their salvation. This must be some kind of cruel and ugly joke that their god has played on them. A simple question is why would jesus christ come for the salvation of these people who have given a bloodbath to the whole region; killed innocent children, women, old and sick indiscriminately; raped them; tortured them; expelled them from their lands and turned their lives into living hell. Either their god is unjust and cruel or he is plain stupid who has no idea to whom he should bestow his salvation. While the adherents of these hateful ideologies do it in their religious fervor and in hope of salvation they blame Islam of being intolerant. Its a cruel joke.
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#18 Posted by Gandiv on October 14, 2004 9:51:31 am
haji004,

Dispel the aryan myth that they inhabited north-central asian region.
The word Arya has Sanskrut origins and it belongs to Indian civilization.

The identity-less german nomads fantacized about the superiority of their race and silently appropriated the word from Indian literature, during british mis-rule in India.

The process of appropriation of treasures of world wasn`t limited to land and loot. This instance was nothing but Cultural Theft.

The british themselves took pride in having german roots (they call themselves overrun by anglo-saxons) until Hitler threatened to turn on them.

``Arya`` and ``Swastik`` belongs to India and the barbarians have no right over it.
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#19 Posted by jang on October 14, 2004 9:51:32 am
this is utterly confusing.

born-agains and their leader from texas claims divine inspiration for their policies. so do the al-sauds. so do the zionist. so do the tora-borans and hamas and hizbollah. they pretty much agree that its the same god that is inspiring each of the chosen peoples.

now while some of them can be simultaneously be right, all of them cannot be. the god must be going crazy with these conflicting demands.

i know its a political problem and not religious, but urstruly keeps confusing me.
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#20 Posted by arjun_m on October 14, 2004 9:51:33 am
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#22 Posted by nasah on October 14, 2004 9:51:34 am
semantically -- Islam itself is a semitic religion -- could it be against itself -- not improbable....Militant Judiasm is virulently antisemitic -- it is antiarab..

....orthodoxy in Islam is a gift from its mother relgion Judiasm....
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#23 Posted by Gandiv on October 14, 2004 11:15:58 am
Wonder why Parsis (the orginal inhabitants of Persia, today`s Iran) had to leave if Muslims were so to tolerant.
Parsis landed in India(Gujarat to be precise) with a story that Muslims persecuted them and asked them to either embrace Islam or Death.

May be Islam means peace, but only for Muslims, not for jahiliyas.
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#24 Posted by Mordant_Muslim on October 14, 2004 11:31:40 am

Gibran,

Although I found the article fascinating and concomitant, I do have a problem with the title however. You didn`t answer your question whether ``Islam`` is anti-Semitic or not. Of course it is obvious that Islam is NOT anti-Semitic given the Semitic hyperbole that is prevalent in Islam`s structure. But your article intends to drill the point home that Islam is not anti-Jewish (while making Semitic synonymous with Jews and exclusively with Jews). One does not need to sift through the ambivalent contemporary Muslim attitudes towards Jews to notice that ``Islamism`` is in complete contradistinction. After all, ``anti-Semitic`` jargon began with Christianity`s consequential and perfidious break with 1st century Judaism. To demonstrate the prevarication of contemporary Muslim thought, I think you could have provided some Qu`ranic verses to give substance to your article. Nevertheless, the links were helpful and purvey.

--Ibn

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#25 Posted by arjun_m on October 14, 2004 1:29:14 pm
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#26 Posted by nikki7777 on October 14, 2004 1:36:59 pm
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#27 Posted by Nina7 on October 14, 2004 4:34:48 pm
#Vertex

Do you write for Chowk ? I like the way you approach an argument.
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#28 Posted by harish_hyd on October 14, 2004 9:28:25 pm
#15 by haji004

[Second point is that perhaps no muslim is ``anti-jewish``, what muslims all around the world vehemently oppose is ``Zionism``, and being ``anti-zionist`` is not being``anti-jewish`` because many jews are also ``anti-zionist``]

Oh! So Daniel Pearl was a Zionist?
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#29 Posted by soysauce on October 14, 2004 9:28:25 pm
#11 vertex
Over the last 4 years I have slowly come to a place where I think the existence of Israel is a huge mistake. It`s not an easy position for me to be in given that I have many good Israeli friends. That said, the stance that it is somehow virtuous that the Palestinians have not been absorbed into other countries is a bit like the old adage about destroying something in order to save it. Palestinians are as much resourceful as Israelis and it`s enormous crime that they have not been allowed to live their lives in peace.
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#30 Posted by Mordant_Muslim on October 15, 2004 1:14:22 am

Arjun:

``religion gets defined by the actions of the majority of it`s practitioners....A majority of muslims DO believe in the ``protocols of the elders of zion``...Pakistani newspaper editorials regularly quote that forgery or use references to it...``

Oh bologna!
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#31 Posted by mohar11 on October 15, 2004 10:19:57 am
#30 by Mordant_Muslim
//..Oh bologna! ..//

Not it`s not. Arjun is right. Islam (or any other ideology/religion) is defined by the way it is practiced.

Majority of muslims in arab and wannabe-arab countries(like pakistan) believe Islam is the only way. They hate kafirs. They have been yearning for the day when the mythical past glory will come back and islam will lord over everybody else in the world. Their fascist fantasies are no secret at all.

But of course - it will remain fantasy.
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#32 Posted by mohar11 on October 15, 2004 10:19:57 am
Is Islam Anti-Semitic?

Of course! Atually Islam is anti-any-other-religion. One of the major trait of Islam as practiced widely today is - ``my way or the highway``. The concept of kufr is very strong and widely accepted and practiced.

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