Shahzad Raza October 14, 2004
#14 Posted by cipram on October 16, 2004 7:16:48 am
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#13 Posted by hamidm2 on October 16, 2004 7:16:48 am
raza mian,
``The message is for the government to provide proper shelter to those poor people``....... no sir..... the message should be for the government to create the economic conditions that in turn will create jobs which will give these, and other miserable millions, the means to get proper shelter ............ any government cannot, and should not, be in the business of building homes for the poor unless they are disabled ..........
......... in a civil society breaking the law and squatting on private or public land is not the answer - it is exactly the kind of thing that discourages people from investing and creating jobs (and housing) in that god forsaken country .............
...............of course, you are welcome to give up your house to a family from poonch or kabul!
``The message is for the government to provide proper shelter to those poor people``....... no sir..... the message should be for the government to create the economic conditions that in turn will create jobs which will give these, and other miserable millions, the means to get proper shelter ............ any government cannot, and should not, be in the business of building homes for the poor unless they are disabled ..........
......... in a civil society breaking the law and squatting on private or public land is not the answer - it is exactly the kind of thing that discourages people from investing and creating jobs (and housing) in that god forsaken country .............
...............of course, you are welcome to give up your house to a family from poonch or kabul!
#12 Posted by tahmed32 on October 15, 2004 4:48:50 pm
jang: You dont like hearing about poverty? This is by far the most significant problem in both India and Pakistan. Why does it bother you so much to read something about poverty??
#11 Posted by jang on October 15, 2004 3:40:03 pm
tahmed
``Great article. It is sad indeed to see the plight of the poor in Pakistan. ``
why do you do this time and again! why use words like great, sad, plight and poor in one sentence? reminds me of a charsee (no offence to charsees) who likes songs sung by kothewali due to the ``real dard`` that only they can express. wah wah, kya dard hai, great sadness, simply wonderful.
``Great article. It is sad indeed to see the plight of the poor in Pakistan. ``
why do you do this time and again! why use words like great, sad, plight and poor in one sentence? reminds me of a charsee (no offence to charsees) who likes songs sung by kothewali due to the ``real dard`` that only they can express. wah wah, kya dard hai, great sadness, simply wonderful.
#10 Posted by tahmed32 on October 15, 2004 2:38:09 pm
Raza: Great article. It is sad indeed to see the plight of the poor in Pakistan. We can only thank our stars because ``but for the Grace of God, there go I``. Fortunately, Pakistan is blessed with many people like you who see the poverty around them, and many are engaged in doing something about it (in the form of NGO schools and so forth). But it will take perhaps a couple of more generations before we pull out of this misery.
I see the Indian twit nikki is here - the cesspool in his brain being still there even after as his parents fled the cesspool of India.
I see the Indian twit nikki is here - the cesspool in his brain being still there even after as his parents fled the cesspool of India.
#9 Posted by kaurasach on October 15, 2004 10:19:57 am
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#8 Posted by nikki7777 on October 15, 2004 10:19:57 am
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#7 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on October 15, 2004 10:19:57 am
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#6 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on October 15, 2004 7:15:04 am
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#5 Posted by Shahzadraza on October 15, 2004 7:15:02 am
Mr hamidm2,
I never argued that dwellers of Kashmir colony are the most miserable human beings on earth.... Also I never said that original owners of land in Adiala and Tulsa should vacate their land in favour of Afghanis or Kashmiris....
I only tried to shed light on the plight of people living just several miles from my own house.... The message is for the government to provide proper shelter to those poor people.... And for your information Chaklala Cantonment Board confirmed that place belongs to army.....
I never argued that dwellers of Kashmir colony are the most miserable human beings on earth.... Also I never said that original owners of land in Adiala and Tulsa should vacate their land in favour of Afghanis or Kashmiris....
I only tried to shed light on the plight of people living just several miles from my own house.... The message is for the government to provide proper shelter to those poor people.... And for your information Chaklala Cantonment Board confirmed that place belongs to army.....
#4 Posted by hamidm2 on October 14, 2004 9:28:26 pm
........ nonsense!...... these people are squatters living on land that belongs to folks who have owned it for generations .......... across the hill, behind the new askari flats, there is another colony of a couple of thousand afghanis who live in even more squalid conditions ......... there is no shortage of miserable humanity from poonch and kabul, but what about the poor people of adiala and tulsa who are finally stepping out of poverty because their small land holdings are worth something ?.......... thirty years ago this land went for less than 500 a kanal, today it goes for as much as 20 lakh a kanal .......... so what do you expect the rightful owners to do? ..... walk away ?
.......... and no, this land does not belong to the army - if it did these people would have been long gone ..............
.......... and no, this land does not belong to the army - if it did these people would have been long gone ..............
#3 Posted by haideri on October 14, 2004 4:34:48 pm
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Kaurasach,
I agree with you. Afghan refugees in Pakistan are not in thousands but in millions and are doing fine. Kaurasach, what is you email? I am looking into providing some facilities for a modest price to Sikh Yatariz. My email is aghaehsan@hotmail.com
regards
Kaurasach,
I agree with you. Afghan refugees in Pakistan are not in thousands but in millions and are doing fine. Kaurasach, what is you email? I am looking into providing some facilities for a modest price to Sikh Yatariz. My email is aghaehsan@hotmail.com
regards
#2 Posted by kaurasach on October 14, 2004 1:29:14 pm
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#1 Posted by temporal on October 14, 2004 12:56:49 pm
shahzad:
our brave occupying army owns the entire country...then why this brouhaha over a few thousand square yards?
kashmiris you say?…aren’t they the ones we tire not of demanding the right of self determination for?
rgds,
t
our brave occupying army owns the entire country...then why this brouhaha over a few thousand square yards?
kashmiris you say?…aren’t they the ones we tire not of demanding the right of self determination for?
rgds,
t
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