Cave-men of Rawalpindi

shahzad:

our brave occupying army owns the entire country...then why this brouhaha over a few thousand square yards?

kashmiris you say?…aren’t they the ones we tire not of demanding the right of self determination for?

rgds,

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Kaurasach,
I agree with you. Afghan refugees in Pakistan are not in thousands but in millions and are doing fine. Kaurasach, what is you email? I am looking into providing some facilities for a modest price to Sikh Yatariz. My email is aghaehsan@hotmail.com

regards

........ nonsense!...... these people are squatters living on land that belongs to folks who have owned it for generations .......... across the hill, behind the new askari flats, there is another colony of a couple of thousand afghanis who live in even more squalid conditions ......... there is no shortage of miserable humanity from poonch and kabul, but what about the poor people of adiala and tulsa who are finally stepping out of poverty because their small land holdings are worth something ?.......... thirty years ago this land went for less than 500 a kanal, today it goes for as much as 20 lakh a kanal .......... so what do you expect the rightful owners to do? ..... walk away ?

.......... and no, this land does not belong to the army - if it did these people would have been long gone ..............

Mr hamidm2,

I never argued that dwellers of Kashmir colony are the most miserable human beings on earth.... Also I never said that original owners of land in Adiala and Tulsa should vacate their land in favour of Afghanis or Kashmiris....

I only tried to shed light on the plight of people living just several miles from my own house.... The message is for the government to provide proper shelter to those poor people.... And for your information Chaklala Cantonment Board confirmed that place belongs to army.....

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Raza: Great article. It is sad indeed to see the plight of the poor in Pakistan. We can only thank our stars because ``but for the Grace of God, there go I``. Fortunately, Pakistan is blessed with many people like you who see the poverty around them, and many are engaged in doing something about it (in the form of NGO schools and so forth). But it will take perhaps a couple of more generations before we pull out of this misery.

I see the Indian twit nikki is here - the cesspool in his brain being still there even after as his parents fled the cesspool of India.

tahmed

``Great article. It is sad indeed to see the plight of the poor in Pakistan. ``

why do you do this time and again! why use words like great, sad, plight and poor in one sentence? reminds me of a charsee (no offence to charsees) who likes songs sung by kothewali due to the ``real dard`` that only they can express. wah wah, kya dard hai, great sadness, simply wonderful.

jang: You dont like hearing about poverty? This is by far the most significant problem in both India and Pakistan. Why does it bother you so much to read something about poverty??

raza mian,

``The message is for the government to provide proper shelter to those poor people``....... no sir..... the message should be for the government to create the economic conditions that in turn will create jobs which will give these, and other miserable millions, the means to get proper shelter ............ any government cannot, and should not, be in the business of building homes for the poor unless they are disabled ..........

......... in a civil society breaking the law and squatting on private or public land is not the answer - it is exactly the kind of thing that discourages people from investing and creating jobs (and housing) in that god forsaken country .............

...............of course, you are welcome to give up your house to a family from poonch or kabul!

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Jang, the main purpose of writing about poverty and miseries of the people is to enable them to get rid of the life, not liked by any human being on the earth...... So far over 500 people read this article, and they know about the hardships being faced by those dwellers....

God knows better, but it is possible that any of the readers can do something for them... Perhaps our voice reaches the people sitting in power corridors to take some solid and result-oriented steps to eliminate poverty from our motherland...

thanx

cipram #16 poverty is indeed around the world. But it is not so widespread, and the living conditions are not so miserable for the poor, as in Pakistan and other developing countries.

Thus, the biggest problems for many of the the poor in the US is obesity, alcoholism, drugs, irresponsible fathers and mothers. Responsibility for these can rightly be pinned on the poor in those cases.

In Pakistan, the biggest problems are hunger, oppression by the strong (like police, like landlords, like military officials greedy for plots, like hamidm calling for law and order starting by kicking these poor people out of caves because someone has title to the plot). Responsibility here rests with those who are better off in Pakistan. Fortunately, there are many like Mr. Shahzad in Pakistan who do care for the poor and have the humility to know that ``There but for the Grace of God go I``.

hamidm: agreed that we should have law and order and squatters should be ejected. Lets start with those squatting over our right to a duly elected government and our right to a military that does not abuse the brute power at its disposal to rule rather than to serve. We can eject Abdul out of his cave after that.

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cipram #19 you write ``Every Goverment is worried to save pakistan and no one is worried for the people who comprises this country.``

That is an astute observation indeed!! I would add that countries, religions, ideologies are only as good as the benefits they provide to the people they serve (God does not need religion, man does. Countries are artificial constructs resulting from historical events. Ideologies are merely tools in the hands of those seeking power to fool those stupid enough to be ideologues). It is the ordinary people - including the cave-men of Rawalpindi in this article - that governments are meant to serve, not to rule over.

Fortunately, there are people like Edhi, people running private and nonprofit schools in Pakistan, people finding cures to human diseases as well as similar good people around the world who are the true heroes of the human race. Yesterday, I was reading an article by a female Israeli doctor who, along with her colleagues at her university in Tel Aviv, has made remarkable progress in developing a way to repair the human heart after a heart attack (a leading cause of death). Her work benefits all people, including the very mullahs who are most intent in spreading hatred for jews, for example.

``Her work benefits all people, including the very mullahs who are most intent in spreading hatred for jews, for example.``

hear hear. mr ahmed this is the way to go and although i have not liked you enjoying poverty in the past, this is something right that you say.

now happy ramadan/ramazan/ramram folks. i am off to getting me some mean tabouleh..

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