Deconstructing Durga

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Kaurasach ji

Police commissioner of Delhi in 1984 was Subhash Tandon. So, this post about his hindu subordinate taking his revolover does not make sense.

Regards

``#80 by Urstruly on November 5, 2004 1:11pm PT

I would have taught you a good lesson in history, you hindu and sikh people, had I not been so busy. ``

Thank Allah you are busy. Were you also busy in 1970/71 by any chance? I mean so engrossed killing Bongs (who definitely were not muslims then). GEEs

May be you are busy helping Sudan defining what is .....

Yogiraj

Ref The Asli Masanamuthu #77

[#71
Unkalji, You should try to visit her in a more civilized and intimate setting than share a dip with her in sewer water as you did in Kumbakonam.]

Give me your address and I will ship you some water from the Zam-Zam spring in Mecca.

I dare you to call that sewer water on Chowk. Come on, show us you still have your cojones. What, you have got to search for them and it will take eons to find them?

You are a gutless wonder struck in the image of Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion. For you water from Lourdes and Zam-Zam would be holy water but water from the Ganges or the Cauvery would be sewer water. Why don`t you show your solidarity with Muslims and visit your local mosque on Friday for prayers. That ought to get you on the FBI`s watch list.

By the way, all of Chowk noticed how you had no answer to:

a) my explanation of HLA typing and its applicability to population studies after you questioned my understanding of the subject

b) my question of why all of you mufukkas so intent on erasing caste lines do not marry BELOW your caste in the caste hierarchy. What is so wrong with marrying a Dalit when you CLAIM to think that they are as good as yourself?

c) for that matter, any question that actually would REQUIRE you to use your subatomic particle-sized brain instead of referring to the Collected Writings of The Great Intellectual.

PS. You should be orgasmic at the thought that Tamil has been declared a Classical language by the Government of India. I am sure you look at the sign in Chennai that says ``Nakalagam`` (literally, Copy House``) over a Xerox shop and marvel at the wonderful ancient Tamil word used to represent the modern idea of copying a document without ever realizing that ``Nakal`` is a corruption of the Urdu word ``Naqli``, meaning ``duplicate`` or ``not original``. That would be the extent of your knowledge of Tamil.

Please do tell us that the use of the word ``Naqli`` is intentional and is used to show your solidarity with Muslims who have been kind to you over the last 1000 years while naming your son Ravana is intended to demonstrate your disassociation from the hated Hindus.

Ref The Asli Masanamuthu #79

[Hmmm. #77 is mine. How did get posted under someone else`s handle?]

Probably because you had been buggered by Dr Digital Rectal Examination.

jang #76

Mostly true, except in the case of some Sikhs. Ironically, she did not nurse even the smallest personal antagonism toward Sikhs. Neither did Sikhs always oppose her.

It`s amazing to see how things sometimes flow with their own momentum.

I would have taught you a good lesson in history, you hindu and sikh people, had I not been so busy.

Hmmm. #77 is mine. How did get posted under someone else`s handle?

Ref: Jang #76

``so while noone claims that we should install indira picture in the center and do a ``Garba-Dandiya`` dance around it, these anti-nationalist (please note that anti-nationalist are not traitors, but mere non-beleivers in the idea of indian nation) despise pretty much anyone who benefits modern indian nationalism..``

I agree.

Farzana thinks herself to be MA Jinnah`s sister. Moan and groan a lot about Hindus, BJP and RSS and watch the Indians twist themselves into pretzels in agony.

#71
Unkalji, You should try to visit her in a more civilized and intimate setting than share a dip with her in sewer water as you did in Kumbakonam.

#75 by mannyd
``OK, so you do not like Indira Gandhi but why?``

well manny, there are many folks who question, and dislike like the idea of a strong indian nation. they find more advanced ideals like the ummah, or the global workers comradery more appealing. they (sincerely) believe that the idea of (indian) nation is inherently despotic, childish, anti-minority etc. while other more advanced ideals have also demostrated these traits in abundance, they are more sympathetic regarding these are aberrations to work in progress, while the idea of a stronger indian nation is nver given such a lattitude.

so while noone claims that we should install indira picture in the center and do a ``Garba-Dandiya`` dance around it, these anti-nationalist (please note that anti-nationalist are not traitors, but mere non-beleivers in the idea of indian nation) despise pretty much anyone who benefits modern indian nationalism, which is a work in progress. this work was started by nehru and patel, supported technically by ambedkar, given a muscle and spine by indira, put some money in its pocket by narasimha rao.

the anit-nationalist believe that they are do-gooders, voicing minority causes etc. so, the nationalist thing they are evil commies bend on breaking the nation, and anti-nationalist think natinalist are murdering (hindu) fascist pigs.

that is why IG is disliked, and that is the real truth.

``Indira Gandhi has been voted the greatest woman of the past 1,000 years in a poll by BBC News Online.

India`s first woman prime minister had been running equally with Queen Elizabeth I in the first half of November but pushed ahead to top the poll by a large majority.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/543743.stm``

``As prime minster in 1971, Indira Gandhi led India in a war against neighbouring Pakistan which resulted in the creations of Bangladesh, formerly East Pakistan.

Her role in the war was only one of her controversial actions.

She is remembered most for her campaign against Sikh separatists.

When Sikh extremists used violence to demand an independent state in Punjab, she ordered an army attack on their refuge, the holiest Sikh shrine, the Golden Temple in Amritsar.

The June 1984 attack killed an estimated 450 people, and left a legacy of bitterness.
Five months later, Indira Gandhi was shot dead by her Sikh bodyguards in revenge.

That incident was followed by attacks on Sikh communities in Delhi and elsewhere in India, in which several thousand people are believed to have died.

BBC News Online readers from across the world took part in the millennium poll and those who voted for Indira Gandhi praised her leadership skills and strength.

Khalid Ahmed said: ``She was a true feminist to the core, a woman of substance who helped the country through a testing phase, possessed all the virtues of a woman and fought valiantly for women`s rights in a man`s world.``
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/543743.stm

``...she had a bulldozer for a son, that she was a leader who chose her followers, that she did not even trust herself.....``
OK, so you do not like Indira Gandhi but why? Since when is it a crime to have a bulldozer or a rototiller for a son? She chose her followers? You mean the Danes wanted to follow her and she deeclined to lead them or was it the Finns?

She did not even trust herself? in what way and how would you know that? She would get up, decide to have a Samosa for breakfast one day and overrule herself the next minute and go for a Pani Puri instead.

``Operation Bluestar was based to a large degree on lies. `` That in itself is a bald faced lie or a product of enormous ignorance. The guillded temple had become a brothel, a den of vice and the seat of a defacto shadow government. I remember the picture of a Granthi running and being stabbed ib the back by a Kirpan. Firmans of murder, extortion, robberies were issued on a daily basis by Bhjindrawallah. The `Daily Trbune` was ordered to print dictated statements. Among the murder victims were Hindu/Sikh police officers, poliemen and their families, professors, editors, judges, students, businessmen, peasants, Bihari laborours etc. One of these victims was a college professors related to me who was shot in the back and had his scooter stolen. Bhindrawallah`s sermons on casette tapes ala Khomeini style openly exhorted sikh youths to get arms and attack Hindus. The police structure was thoroughly infilterated by the insurgents and no police action was ever possible without Bhindrawaalah knowing about it. The breakdown in law and order was of the same magnitude as before 1947 except that the Police were not completely communalized. Most probaby there were more Sikh victims than Hindus.

``If there is anything blameless about Indira Gandhi, It is her stint as mother. ``

Forget about her stint as a mother. who gives a hoot? You really find nothing else blameless about Indira? Surely there must be something.

nice article

Ref FarzanaVersey #70

[Although I do think Jayalalitha has some wonderful qualities, it is stretching it a bit to call the AIADMK the only `national` party. Corruption charges against her and her attitude towards the Opposition, her opportunistic alliances speak a different language.]

Very Indira like, don`t you think? That is why she is also considered the only man in a cabinet of women! And there are pictures of her as Durga riding a tiger painted on the walls or as cut-outs along major roads. Did you read extracts of her conversation on changing the Governor of Tamil Nadu with your man, Shivraj Patil the Home Minister?

[Re. Veerappan, she sure took her own time, and here too both TN and Karnataka are fighting over who really managed the `coup`.]

It did take a while for the Special Task Force but they all agreed that she gave them her unstinted support and that there was no political interference. As I pointed out, the commandos of the Indian Army just camped out for a while and returned empty-handed. If I remember right, Vijay Kumar took control of the STF about a year ago. As to Karnataka, you must know that while noises were made about their help and support, the Karnataka policemen who were part of the STF were not even allowed to view Veerappan`s body. I wouldn` t think they had anything to contribute.

[Re. Marxist guerrillas, if they voice legitimate grievances, then the government must talk to them.]

Nobody gives a damn about YOUR or MY legitimate grievances so why should anyone listen to a bunch of rifle-toting murderers?

[PS: Planning a visit to Poes Gardens? :) ]

Actually, no. Quite difficult to get an appointment!

PS. Look at other choices for Durga. We have Sheila Dixit, Robbery Devi, Uma Bharti. Not a pretty crowd, is it?