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Fahrenheit With a Silent H

Shujaat Wasty October 31, 2004

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#1 Posted by mohar11 on November 1, 2004 5:51:32 am
///....There is no doubt that the Zionist movement occupies a primary role in the WTC attacks, international anti-American sentiment, terrorism, .... plunging the entire world into the chaotic time that we live in..//

You nailed it man - it`s all a zionist conspiracy. Yep - these jews play a ``primary`` role in all that is wrong in the world today - the terrorsm and violence ..... it`s all because of that tiny piece of country with 4 million people and another few million of their supporters in US.
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#2 Posted by nasah on November 1, 2004 5:51:32 am
``The first is that instead of questioning who exactly perpetrated the WTC attack, Moore went along with the American government’s official explanation. ``

so who do you think who did 9/11 -- the Jews? -- or the CIA?.....

apparently u wrote this convoluted prose before that mass murderer in Golden Garb admitted his guilt on the recent tape -- and asked Americans to re-elect the MORON -- George Bush.....
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#3 Posted by arjun_m on November 1, 2004 5:51:32 am
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#4 Posted by Helal on November 1, 2004 5:51:33 am
``The first is that instead of questioning who exactly perpetrated the WTC attack, ``

Oh, please enlighten us! We poor ignorant were told they were Arabs. What insights you have big guy that is any different than what we poor ignorant know? We will trust you!

“Israel. There is no doubt that the Zionist movement occupies a primary role in the WTC attacks,”

Here you go! Israel it is! So those crashed into WTC were Israeli and Zionist! Thanks for the information. I am willing to give up all my news sources, if you start a blog with the “right” info about rest of the world affairs.

You saw the documentary, wrote the whole review, reality is: you did not get it. I guess you need to go back and see the documentary again to get a grip on what issues Moore is addressing!

This applies to you buddy!

``Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.`` - Groucho Marx


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#5 Posted by hamidm2 on November 1, 2004 7:16:39 am
.... here we go again !

........ another piece of unadulterated doo by a member of the delusional ummah which refuses to come to grips with reality ....... and it doesn`t really matter if you are born in canada or jeddah - the disease is equally debilitaing
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#6 Posted by aquaris on November 1, 2004 7:16:39 am

`` who exactly perpetrated the WTC attack, ..``

This is a very valid question.....!!

So far the official explanations have too many loop holes.....

Aw common don`t fell for the conspiracy theory.......But still there are many many...

Unanswered.... valid questions...?




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#7 Posted by arjun_m on November 1, 2004 7:16:39 am
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#8 Posted by mohar11 on November 1, 2004 7:35:53 am
//...I have two principal criticisms regarding the movie. The first is that instead of questioning who exactly perpetrated the WTC attack, ...//

Shujjat Mian - didn`t you see the new film that came out this saturday? It was the latest release from `Bin Laden House of Horrors` production ...... you know, the outfit that specializes in this new genre of films: reality TV style documentary films with a dash of subtle horror which intends to send powerful messages to americans, zionists and assorted kufrs around the world. This was released just in time for the Halloween !!!

So watch that tape ..... yeah - bin laden films usually go directly to tape :) .... it is running all over the place - even on CNN. And this tape explains ``who exactly perpetrated the WTC attack``.

Actually the tape seems to indicate that Bin Laden himself did the WTC attack ... but even then, you will like it - because here is one guy who can finally break the back of Zionist Movement - which plays ``primary`` roles in all the terrorism and violence.

And if you are a paki - you will be doubly proud, because this world famous film was produced entirely in pakistan. Yep - this one is totally indigenous , true blue paki product - One that has taken world by storm and has the ability to influence the election results of the only superpower and thereby can change the history of the world. You pakis must be elated.

++++

[ Gawd - what`s wrong with these people? Still confused about who exactly perpetrated the WTC attack?? Still tilting at zionist wind-mills ? Un-freaking-believable!!! ]
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#9 Posted by arjun_m on November 1, 2004 8:29:16 am
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#10 Posted by Pi on November 1, 2004 8:52:06 am
//...There is no doubt that the Zionist movement occupies a primary role in the WTC attacks, international anti-American sentiment, terrorism, and plunging the entire world into the chaotic time that we live in. Such a major character being excluded from the movie is simply unfair....//

My initial reaction was the same as others that this is yet another attempt to lay the blame on the Zionist movement... even after Bin Laden admits to the guilt yet again in his latest production. There is no doubt that Bin Laden did this....

But, I`m inclined to give Shujaat a benefit of the doubt in that what he means is an indirect involvement as apposed to a direct one. Israeli-Palestinian conflict is indeed one of the primary motivators that drive people like Bin Laden and his ilk; the atrocities committed by both sides on each other keep adding fuel to the fire. I believe it indeed contributed, albeit indirectly, to the 9/11 events...

A great [objective] film maker that Moore is, he certainly left out that aspect of the current global morass from his documentary. Just remember that one of the primary motivators for Moore is money. Do you think he had little trouble selling his movie in the US the way it was? He would have faced gargantuan roadblocks selling it if he had depicted the Jews in a negative light.
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#11 Posted by sshw on November 1, 2004 9:43:13 am
Hi everyone,

thank you all for reading/responding to the article.

what I find ``unfreaking unbelievable`` is that the cynicism that is plaguing people`s minds is hitting almost-delusional levels. Out of the entire article, one sentence/paragraph is targetted and assumptive statements are made.

``The second criticism was the absence of the most important player in the grand scheme of events: Israel. There is no doubt that the Zionist movement occupies a primary role in the WTC attacks, international anti-American sentiment, terrorism, and plunging the entire world into the chaotic time that we live in. Such a major character being excluded from the movie is simply unfair. ``

For those of you who made statements for me, PLEASE explain how or where you read me making claims of a number of certain people being absent??

Yes, there are numerous loopholes (and if people wish, I can post some of it up).

However, MY point was not that. MY point was that yes, that ``country of 4 million people`` and anyone belonging to that ideology DOES have the primary role in world terrorism - including 9/11. It is their consistent terrorism that have spurred an outgrowth of extremism throughout the world, and the main victims - as always - are us common people.

So please, as much as I do appreciate the feedback (even criticism), I do not like being misquoted or accused of making comments that I haven`t made.

Evidently, it`s something anyone can be guilty of, it doesn`t really matter whether you`re ``born in Canada or Jedda``...

thank you,

Shujaat
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#12 Posted by hamidm2 on November 1, 2004 9:43:13 am
arjun,

....... you are being too harsh ..... it being the month of ramadhan it is particularly difficult for the ummah to think on an empty stomach - not that they do a very good job the rest of the year ............ but what really scares the bejesus out of me is the fact that the author appears to be a young man born and raised in canada ......... i would like to think that hockey and food withdrawal is responsible for this inane canuck rant ........
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#13 Posted by mohar11 on November 1, 2004 10:38:52 am
//...MY point was that yes, that ``country of 4 million people`` and anyone belonging to that ideology DOES have the primary role in world terrorism ...//

Yes sir - we get your point. It`s the Zionist ideology that`s responsible. It`s their fault - They made Osama do it. Osama should NOT be blamed for what happened on 9/11.

Is this correct - or I am mis-quoting you again?
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#14 Posted by arjun_m on November 1, 2004 10:38:52 am
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#15 Posted by arjun_m on November 1, 2004 10:38:52 am
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#16 Posted by sshw on November 1, 2004 12:31:50 pm
Thank you Pi for understanding my point.

9/11 was not a cause...it`s part of the series of effects. People, at least here in North America, didn`t bother asking why would someone want to do this, who is benefitting from this, etc. Basic questions that anyone would ask after any crime occured. So why not in this case?

To beat the criminal you have to understand him. Basic criminology.

I think everyone has the right to agree or respectfully disagree. But I don`t think we have to be immature and sarcastic.


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