Xoheb Sheikh November 14, 2004
#9 Posted by masterbell on November 25, 2005 10:54:12 pm
a nice article except for one thing...
why do we have to ``upgrade`` mederessah education system/curricula to scientific/general standards?.. why cant we just do away with them... if u upgrade/refine/improve them u r simply trying to turn them into normal schools except for retaining the name `medersah`...
i cant decide whether u let this idea out just becuz u thought so or to keep the article diplomatic... whatever the case, here`s what i think of why u wrote that `` we have had this idea deep in our sub-concious (or whatever they call it) i.e, the islamization/quaranization of modern day science and its education``.. there have been so many attempts and constant compaigns to make the youth beleive that modern day science is either deduced from quran/islamic ideas or at least it was started by islamic scholars... now the debate has continued with a different nick but the essence remains same: islamize the scientific/normal school education or or or scientify the mederessah education...
well never thought it would get this long but ...
mederssah`s should stay the same or as their respective admins want em to stay and let anyone who wants to go there, go: just to develop a secular point of view... respect (or at least dont belittle) everyone`s point of view... but if they get poor people into stupid stuff thru mis-information we should take care of this thru awareness programs i.e, aim our reforms at society... ah!... its getting longer and longer.... look at the way a society develops (from evolution`s point of view)... u have people who come together , live toghether to realize some common good/goals and a society(although very primitive) is formed... then gradually elements like organization, planning and stuff happen and education comes pretty down on the list.. if the society is pretty low down on morality their education is bound to be bad too and imagine a `clever` (not wise) guy (or a group of such) peneterate into such a society.. he could (and probably would) plunder them with his exploitations... now imagine if that person gets into education... keep visualizing the rest of the story and u know its the society in the first place that needs to think soundly...
now ( i really regret the length of this stuff) what really made our society the way it is today... it simply is/was the communication gap between `father and son`, `rich and poor`, `ciitizens and villagers` and the `scientists and religious scholars` and so on... look at most of the rich brats and see for urself how much they know about the problems of the poor ( u`l face an expression like `` really!! do they do such stuff/is it so!/ oh my god! and so on).. and the middle class that knows a lot simply ignores it (``we got plenty of our own probs, why bother for them``)...
zoheb dear i know u understand all of it... but this is not all.. i got so much in me... and u just made me write... maybe we could get in touch on campus and u could write out some of the ideas/thoughts i got (i myself can`t write as good as u)... ( i wish we had met earlier :) )
_`B`alach ( remember balach with farhan... FAST yaar)
why do we have to ``upgrade`` mederessah education system/curricula to scientific/general standards?.. why cant we just do away with them... if u upgrade/refine/improve them u r simply trying to turn them into normal schools except for retaining the name `medersah`...
i cant decide whether u let this idea out just becuz u thought so or to keep the article diplomatic... whatever the case, here`s what i think of why u wrote that `` we have had this idea deep in our sub-concious (or whatever they call it) i.e, the islamization/quaranization of modern day science and its education``.. there have been so many attempts and constant compaigns to make the youth beleive that modern day science is either deduced from quran/islamic ideas or at least it was started by islamic scholars... now the debate has continued with a different nick but the essence remains same: islamize the scientific/normal school education or or or scientify the mederessah education...
well never thought it would get this long but ...
mederssah`s should stay the same or as their respective admins want em to stay and let anyone who wants to go there, go: just to develop a secular point of view... respect (or at least dont belittle) everyone`s point of view... but if they get poor people into stupid stuff thru mis-information we should take care of this thru awareness programs i.e, aim our reforms at society... ah!... its getting longer and longer.... look at the way a society develops (from evolution`s point of view)... u have people who come together , live toghether to realize some common good/goals and a society(although very primitive) is formed... then gradually elements like organization, planning and stuff happen and education comes pretty down on the list.. if the society is pretty low down on morality their education is bound to be bad too and imagine a `clever` (not wise) guy (or a group of such) peneterate into such a society.. he could (and probably would) plunder them with his exploitations... now imagine if that person gets into education... keep visualizing the rest of the story and u know its the society in the first place that needs to think soundly...
now ( i really regret the length of this stuff) what really made our society the way it is today... it simply is/was the communication gap between `father and son`, `rich and poor`, `ciitizens and villagers` and the `scientists and religious scholars` and so on... look at most of the rich brats and see for urself how much they know about the problems of the poor ( u`l face an expression like `` really!! do they do such stuff/is it so!/ oh my god! and so on).. and the middle class that knows a lot simply ignores it (``we got plenty of our own probs, why bother for them``)...
zoheb dear i know u understand all of it... but this is not all.. i got so much in me... and u just made me write... maybe we could get in touch on campus and u could write out some of the ideas/thoughts i got (i myself can`t write as good as u)... ( i wish we had met earlier :) )
_`B`alach ( remember balach with farhan... FAST yaar)
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