Zaheera’s Jihad

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A timely and pertinent article.
Kaurasach #1 You are right.Justice system is screwed.This is what led to women taking justice in their hands in Nagpur recently.To me,it was heartwarming in a strange sort of way.It is another matter that things could have been given a religious colour there as well,if there was scope.And it also is pathetic to see apologists jumping up and down with glee at the volte face of Zaheera.

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kashmiri pandits deserve to die according to farzana versey, but yet she has no shame in writing articles like this

And why are people shirking away from calling it a Muslim problem?

I am not clear what `Muslim problem` exactly means. Does this mean that only Muslims are qualified to talk about `Muslim problems`? Or that only Hindus can talk about `Hindu problems`? Conversely are u suggesting that every Hindu/Muslim is accountable for the actions of another Hindu/Muslim? What an atrocious idea.

#5 #5 by rsaxena
~~ but yet she has no shame in writing articles like this~~



If cold blooded murderers have no shame killing and raping, looting and burning, then why should writers who write about them? Have you no shame writing responses like this?

rgds,
NfP

I am afraid to read this article.

Currently, I support Zaheera. I believe that her earlier testimony (not the latest one) is the correct one. It seems to be another case where gundaa raj may be getting an upper hand, and justice may be scuttled.

But I fear that after reading Farzana, I will turn into a bitter opponent of Zaheera and everything related to her...


I will skip it :(

Farzana bibi,
All symapathy and legitimacy deserved by Zaheeras of this world is lost as soon as people like you jump in the kitchen to flame further fire and bake your own potatos

nfp

i never condoned violence any gujarat..the hypocritical writer of this article condones violence against non-muslims in every corner of india, as long as the perpetrators are muslim....have you no shame?

A quick note:

If anyone is skipping it because they think I am against Zaheera, then please take a look -- it is important. I have raised questions about NGOs too and quoted people far more relevant than I could ever be.

Re. my reference to ``Muslim problem``, in this particular context it is about even activists refusing to openly call it a Muslim issue. I find this strange. The Gujarat riots were indeed targeted at the Muslim community. And to think that Kashmir is made into a Muslim problem when it most certainly was not.

PS: Personal comments against me will not lessen the crimes or altar the truth as has been exposed.

FV/10 - well, I am not skipping it because of anything other than fatigue. Communal problems of all sorts eventually go to committees and enquiries and eventually get compromised basis whoever has deeper pockets, pre-emptive skills and staying powers in ever-changing environments.

However, from your response, I do think Kashmir is not ``made into a Muslim problem``, unless you are referring to the Wahabi Pakhtoon tribesmen brought in from the NWFP and Afghanistan, commanded by bin Laden, to Gilgit to teach the Shi`ites a lesson. And the Punjabis and Pakhtoons from outside, settling them in Gilgit and Baltistan in order to reduce the Kashmiri Shiites to a minority in their traditional land. Yes, that is a Muslim problem. Terrible, I must say. Thank all the Gods of all the denominations that we don`t have such problems in India, Jammu & Kashmir included.

But then again, that`s in POK.

And as you know, heading on the Kashmir Highway out of Islamabad to report on this is well nigh impossible from the checkpost ahead of the Convention Centre Crossing (previously famous for the plastic model of the Atoomi Bombee pointed towards Delhi, since removed due to bad weather.)

In India, where I do think Kashmir, which includes Jammu, Ladakh, and also Gilgit, Baltistan, Srinagar, Valley, Mountains, we have a Hindu and Buddhist and Muslim problem, with Christians added for good measure (remember the convent at Baramulla in 1948?). We don`t have a Jewish problem because the Israeli tourists and visitors in Srinagar and beyond, in their thousands, have been known to teach the local thugs, erm . . . freedom fighters, a thing or two, please see the latest issue of Outlook on this subject.

I hope you will stand corrected, and if there have been any factual errors on my part, you will let me know.

Dear Farzana:

Nothing is lacking in Zaheera. And no less is expected from her tormentors either.

During the civil rights movement in the U.S. such incidences of intimidation and fear were not uncommon. However, what was the most admirable, was the support, for ``Zaheeras`` of the time, to protect them, to give them courage, and to shield them from the fear and intimidation. This support was undeniable and unconditional. The liberal media was born out of this period in the U.S. Only then the justice started to come out, as the truth must be spoken to prevail over the evil. The innocent needs courage to stand up.

Where are the people like yourselves? Those who can indeed be valuable to ``Zaheeras`` of India? Why are they stuck in their distant view from their own window? Certainly it is easy to write from a distant comfort, but for the system to evolve there will be many more Zaheeras, as there will no doubt be many more Modis.... This is certainly given.

Anil

Zahira`s N`th U-Turn brought back scenes from an otherwise forgettable movie, Kurukshetra. Sanjay Dutt is an upright officer and fights the corrupt government of Om Puri which is trying to shield a rapist, who happens to be CM`s son. Dutt looses it all and is supported by an opposition politician during his lean patch. Events unfold; Dutt is shot and is hanging between life and death in hospital. In the meantime, the opposition politician, riding on the wave of sympathy generated by Dutt`s predicament makes it big. He mobilizes legislators and finally strikes a deal with the corrupt CM. Dutt realizes he was used as a pawn, gets infuriated and finally shoots the corrupt CM and opposition leader. Movies on similar theme were `New Delhi Times` starring Shashi Kapoor and `Arjun` starring Sunny Deol.

Zahira`s case is typical of the divisions in any society. There are average citizens like Zahira and smart people like Modi and Teesta Seetalvad. The latter exploit the common people and use them as pawns in their heinous game of achieving their bigoted objectives - money, power and recognition. Once the purpose is achieved, these pawns are thrown away. Justice is the only casualty in these power plays as Zaheera would have realized to her horror.

Dear Farzana:
My heart goes out to zaheera. I wish a less controversial figure than Teesta Setalvad had taken up her cause. She has now become a football between two teams with opposing agendas. In the process, the culprits are now almost certain to go scot free. I dont even know what or if there is a way out.

``And to think that Kashmir is made into a Muslim problem when it most certainly was not.``

Depends upon what one calls the ``Kashmir problem``. If one is talking about corruption, rigged elections, bad governance and broken promises, I agree with you. But if you are talking about the militancy and separatism, then it is a different matter.

#14 - DM

FV bibiji has no clue....she is given to ranting and she has now thrown this into the soup and just watch the number of interacts rise now. Her article has got nothing to do with Kashmir. So pronto at the first available opportunty she threw in the Kashmir word (she got this in interact 10) .........now watch the numbers increase ...she is a real devil wo-Man ...fiendishly clever....I now getting more certain that she hanlers fater the interact numbers ........

so whats the bet is it going to be 100, 200, or 400 before thsi closes. Right now she has sort of ensured that it will reach atleast 100. When it crosses 100 watch what she does to make it cross 200 ...

And she calls others manipulative......she is a damn good exponent of this on Chowk.....

FV bibiji, think you are missing the point (or rather if you have made one it is lost ) and it is
Is what zaheera saying the truth? If it is then the perpetrators have to be brought to account for themselves and their actions. Now I have no doubt in my mind that what she is saying or alleging has an element of truth in it.

But, for it to stand alone, and hang the people involved, it has to be established beyond reasonable doubt for it to be a criminal case. A balance of probablities will not do here.

The next question which comes up is is she telling us what happened to her or what happened around her. I feel in all this she has lost credibility - call it manipulation what ever - with her flip-flops. here something to mull over-

(a) if she is telling us about what happened to her then she has to establish this beyond reasonable doubt - since she is making specific allegations against specific people. If she is telling us about what she saw happening around her to others (and othese others are not saying anything), she has to establish this on a balance of probabilities. In her flip-flops and various statements these two aspects of her story are merging. She has to decide on which way to go - or rather YOU also have to decided which way you want to go. Mixing the two up and writing a few thousand words will not do justice to your case (that is if you feel you have one!)


(b) In either of these two cases the issue is not one of a muslim problem or one of a hindu problem. The ISSUE ON HAND IS ONE OF LAW andthe RULE OF RULE.

(c) mixing it up with kashmir will not wash. Surely there the problem is on a larger scale and has been reduced to one of a muslim issue by the ideologues of the pakistani hue. from an Indian perspective it is law and order issue.

(d) what Zaheera says in the news paper cannot be held to be the truth and nothing but the truth. they have to be sworn statements by her in court. That she has not done as yet. The fact that you seen to taking these to be the gosple truth is neither here nor there. And statements based on this belief are just rants.

(e)You ask ``Have you seen a government weep or hold your hand? ``. The duty ofthe goverment ends in providing you with rights, and ensuring you fulfil the obligations as a citizen. The State or its representative doesnot have the brief of weeping for an individual or holding the hand of an individual. The state and/or government is not an emotional entity and it doesnot have any emotions (it has to be devoid of emotions). It is upto individuals to hold someelses hand ot weep for them. so if you feel it your duty to hold her hand and weep - please do so and I will also be there to do thesame for you (not literally ) and support the actions - just as Teesta and others do. One cannot and should read into their intentions till they become clear - just one can read into your intentions (and my god there are many here will gladly do so!) and start making allegations about your real intentions.

As a general rule I read your outpourings and stop there - since they often verge on edge of being extremely sensational. Occasionally the target is to good.In this case youhave provided an interesting target (in your writing and not the ones you suggest). If one were to read what you say in your article and the interact below - a simple exercise of interchanging a few characters with you will yield the similar result.