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Stage Set for BB’s Prime-Ministership?

abdul naeem November 24, 2004

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#18 Posted by aquaris on November 28, 2004 7:27:27 am


Mr Altaf has other stakes too...... He is the emperor in waiting ....for any possibility...of Alternate to Hong Kong.... ...... I wonder....why the American/chineese/ Others etc etc...
still investing heavily ..in the belt from Defence....clifton....then all the way to Hub...and beyond to Gawadar.....



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#17 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 26, 2004 10:54:27 pm
This is wishful thinking. Trinity of gods who run Pakistan must agree. Allah , army and America. America is favored to general than BB or any party. General gives free hand to Bush and Bush gives free hand to General. American war in Kabul continues. Specially when americam army is useing air bases in our country they do not want disturbance at this time. Democracy can wait few dicades if needed. Also if operations are needed against terrorist regime of Iran, only general will provide all bases as a spring board in secrecy just as in Kabul/Taliban war. General is too important and he is dictector but not totaltarian. America will not tolerate problems of democracy till kabul and Iran are civilised. Actually for bush`es three aces are Ruler of Bagdad, Ruler of Kabul and ruler of Islambad and no ruler can be permitted to be replaced. American do not want to be mean to our citizens but its all colateral damage and benifits to general.
What Manto lives aka YLH writes is completely true but due to private family welfare fraud PPP is doomed. It will not die but will not grow. Altafbhai has check mated PPP. All urban Sindh areas will be under MQM and Altaf is making sure PPP is out of power and has support to Urdu General.
General may live and come from Karachi but Karachi is not sindhi and general is not SINDHI. Blood is thicker than water, Altafbhai will support general . That is shown by support to Dam by MQM and soft pedalling of opposition to dam. Army and MQM will make sure BB is out and Altaf is in. This policy is very usa used in cold war germany in Russia out.
BB got two chances she blew up. She has no killing intincts. She knew army trying to undermine, she could have realeased corrouption police behind generals. She never tried to take care of army generals always followed them. If you do not use power you loose it. When she had chance she could have shown door to rougue generals but she dithered. She has no killing instincts like Zia or Mrs G. When Zia got chance he made sure sindhi wounded ZAB is hanged. Its dangerous to allow to survive wounded tigers in termoil of politics of our country. When Mrs G got chance she finished Y.Khan she killed him and our country was cut to size. She lied to world leaders about intentions but when she got chnace finished Y.Khan. BB has no killing instincts just like former PM. Its game of kill or get killed. Generals are better as they are professionally trained to kill enemies and do not take wounded. BB is too civilised and has no guts to face army. NO way BB will occupy PM chair.
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#16 Posted by taqat-e-parvaaz on November 26, 2004 3:00:03 pm

as true as that might be manto, it doesnt have any bearing considering that the PPP is a party full of thugs, and headed by the biggest witch. benazir is a jahil women who has no right to step back into pakistan. i mean, if this is what musharraf wants, then its better that he face the same demise that zia had in 1988.
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#15 Posted by MantoLives on November 26, 2004 9:54:53 am

As sethi said....

2 decades of deliberate attempts by the Military establishment could not wipe out the Pakistan Peoples` Party...

and ...

3 decades of civilian rule could not wipe out the Military`s continuous influence in politics...


Time for both of them to join hands for Pakistan...
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#14 Posted by ijaz_gul on November 26, 2004 6:11:13 am
Naeem,
Any Pakistani would agree with your optimism based on the two reasons that seem correct.
For a long time Pakistan needed reconciliation and I hope it comes forthwith. Unlike some I find lots of meaning in all this. I pray for the best.
Cheerios
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#13 Posted by Siddiqua on November 25, 2004 12:52:35 pm
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#12 Posted by Siddiqua on November 25, 2004 12:52:35 pm
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#11 Posted by harish_hyd on November 25, 2004 6:09:52 am
Right from the time of independence, Pakistan’s political history has been one of Machiavellianism, deceit, subterfuge and manipulation. Starting from Liaquat Ali Khan, stories of palace intrigue have abounded. Greedy men vying for power have destroyed the country and its institutions, with the result that chaos and anarchy have ruled Pakistan for much of its existence. I wonder why Pakis were looking forward to anything different now. After all, Mushy has proved to be the master of deception as he showed the MMA, first by enlisting their support on the LFO in return for quitting the COAS’s post by the 31st of December, and now refusing to doff his uniform.

Déjà vu’? You bet.
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#10 Posted by aquaris on November 25, 2004 6:09:52 am



Seems like every One is counting on the pataience threshold of Pakisani AWAMs......

the figure is round about 3 years.... give or take a few Months.....


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#9 Posted by adityapant on November 25, 2004 1:51:57 am
hmm except for the fact that the indian army has never come close to seizing power in india, the political scenario in Pakistan is remarkably familiar...lets see corrupt political leaders with a lineage of (dynastic) corruption, political associations in name of religion, ethnic strife... the large majority of the population is illiterate, a fair degree go hungry, and everybody knows the politicians are screwing them and yet they will spend a fair part of the day discussing them, arguing over them or like yours truly, writing about them. sigh.... as two entities, india and pakistan have a lot more similar than culture and history alone, even our present (and our future) is similiar.
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#8 Posted by smartsyco on November 25, 2004 12:58:55 am
First of all i cannt understand the MMA why are they against every Govt.I don`t know wehter they show their furstration of election because they do not get even a single area to win.First they were against PPP then Muslim league and then muslim league q and then musharaf they won`t be happy untill or unless they do not get any big attention by public and i know it won`t happen.The way they want in pakistan is never gonna happened.
And about zardari he got the bail,but it won`t affect even a single peace of bit on Govt.It may cause to effect on other parties but on Govt.Because he got bail after 8 years and he will be trying to escape himself by these political issues again because his bit mistake can make him back where he was.Because he just got the bail he is not realeased properly.
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#7 Posted by smartsyco on November 25, 2004 12:58:55 am
well!if you are talking about to be ready to pakistanies then you do not need to worry because its been a long time that we are ready infact our every Govt. has made us red alert.So we cannot find anything new here rather stale things.......
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#6 Posted by mog on November 24, 2004 9:34:45 pm
Well, if the people want him & her back, then that`s also called democracy.

I think Pakistan and Pakistanis need to be prepared for some of the pros and cons of being able to throw rulers out (as well as bring them back) that goes with the territory.

One thing we do notice from here in India is that all that yip-tip from all quarters about ``riding to Delhi in a tank`` has gone for a long bath. With no more of that annoying noise from the Pakistani establishment (media, mullah and military and other inertia levels et al) suddenly Pakistan seems to have joined the other neighbouring countries we have.

In other words, they have their problems, we have ours, and we try to co-exist best.

So, if it takes him & her back in Pakistan for us to reach that stage in India, well, good for all of us, I say.

Except, ofcourse, the baba-and-baby log from Hai Saada La Villa ul Ulloos de Paris that is Lahore.
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#5 Posted by kaurasach on November 24, 2004 4:25:55 pm
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#4 Posted by labyrinth1 on November 24, 2004 2:36:14 pm
Asif in jail was a burden on Pakistani Tax Payers as way - anyhow what I know of PPP and we had close links with some of the top PPP leaders , they wanted that Zardari dies in Jail or remains in jail - for PPP vote bank to grow specially in Sind - anyhow ,
I think the authour ( Adul Naeem ) is either another Pir - or Mush himself - one of these people who knows everything - whatever happens I think BB and Mushraff would be the best combination in the intrest of Pakistan .
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#3 Posted by nikki7777 on November 24, 2004 1:46:41 pm
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