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Dystopia: After the cliché

Nadeem F Paracha November 27, 2004

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#27 Posted by AmericanFOB on December 1, 2004 10:58:22 am
I think another good film to add to these list of dystopian films would The Truman Show with Jim Carrey. It`s funny how he`s born into a utopia and wants to rebel from the utopia to join what the rest of us live in, I guess the Dystopia. The lesson to learn from that is maybe a Utopia isn`t all that it`s cracked up to be, and a Dystopia isn`t all that bad. I mean normal societies are a balance of the two.
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#26 Posted by baaghiraja on December 1, 2004 10:58:22 am
#24 by M.B.Z.Isphahani
~~I do not understand,but if it has anything to do with my mother in islamic context,
then I may have wonderful news on Islamic none islamic leaders -intellectuals
to talk further? ~~

Lol! No MBZ, that had nothing to do with your mom (in any context). In fact that had nothing to do with anything. And THAT was the point. I was just trying to make as much sense as you usually do in your replys. And I always think they have something to do with my pet hamster (in the Islamic context).
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#25 Posted by nikki7777 on December 1, 2004 10:58:22 am
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#24 Posted by rahul_capri on November 30, 2004 6:24:25 pm
#13
``at birth religions will charge people an initial fee of $50,000 and then pretty much leave them alone ...............``
rotfl...
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#23 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on November 30, 2004 6:24:25 pm
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#22 Posted by ana on November 30, 2004 5:43:55 pm
#20

sound the trumpets! breakthrough has one made!!! :)
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#21 Posted by nikki7777 on November 30, 2004 2:01:49 pm
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#20 Posted by baaghiraja on November 30, 2004 11:29:01 am
#19 by M.B.Z.Isphahani

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#19 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on November 29, 2004 8:36:46 pm
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#18 Posted by nikki7777 on November 29, 2004 2:50:35 pm
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#17 Posted by trashman on November 29, 2004 6:46:22 am
NFP, i`m still not sure that if you agreed with Orwell or not? You enjoy the fact how many writers and directors took him headon, but yet you call 1984 a classic. Explian.
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#16 Posted by taqat-e-parvaaz on November 28, 2004 9:44:39 pm

NFP:

no educated muslim longs for the the caliphate of the four first caliphs. the reason they are referred to as the four rightly guided caliphs are because those four rulers were the closest to the Prophet, peace be upon him, and therefore knew his decisions best. they ruled effectively for the most part. that sort of administration will not be seen in the muslim world again. and by the way, baaghiraja, before you believe all the bull crap you watch on CNN and fox news (two of the worst networks in the world, they actually make PTV look good!) consider the experiences of yvonne ridley, in her own words. google her name. just a thought....
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#15 Posted by Raw_Dust on November 28, 2004 4:27:26 pm
NFP:
--Far as i recall.. the movie had a reddish tint.. but you can always do away with it by hiking the contrast... it didnt look like a dreamworks werk... actually come to think of Godard`s Alphaville with a detective story plot..well the plot sort of goes into gradual disintegration as the movie goes.. until you are left with anna karina`s big black eyes and pretty much nothing else of the dystopic whatever... wasnt bad at all though...

--This manga movie Metropolis - 2001... teary eyed exploding images.. a lil bit of smoke in the room and it seemed like the best Metropolis ever made..

--RE: 6 Versey
if you feel like masochistic as the beloved Talibans got daisy-cuttered and no more (cant resist to mention the auspicious ocassion of Lailathul Qadar .. their sad demise... blessed too probably).. i suggest Amores Perroes ( Love is a Bitch)- 2001.... it has got a fabulous dog fight, a fantastic car chase and two other puppies looking for love...

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#14 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on November 28, 2004 12:52:46 pm
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#13 Posted by hamidm2 on November 28, 2004 12:52:46 pm
don`t fret, everything will be okay :


eventually, it will be no longer necessary to forecast the future, because time will disappear and everything will happen at once ........

the oceans will dry up and people will find things they dropped in the toilet many years ago .......

a utopian society ruled by women will emerge, and there will be peace and plenty for all. however, many men will still act like macho assholes..........

all the knowledge in the world will be contained on a single, tiny silicone chip which somone will misplace .........

no one will take drugs, but people will still buy them and conceal them from the police......

at birth religions will charge people an initial fee of $50,000 and then pretty much leave them alone ...............

..................... and according to carlin (swa) there is a lot more to look forward to .........
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#12 Posted by ana on November 28, 2004 12:52:46 pm
baaghiraja:

{why on earth have you been watching bond movies?. . .}

a) i was bored. b) they became an interesting study of sorts. c) they were a helpful diversion in keeping me from knocking out a sibling. . .

we (as in the human collective) have been trying to create utopias since time immemorial. the bible stories i used to read as a kid with pictures (jesus looked like a white man) are in a sense, the search for a utopia. america in the fifteenth or sixteenth century and later was utopia for those escaping religious persecution, but it became hell for the american indians. the french revolution was to usher in a utopia of sorts. . . as was the iranian revolution. . .i think the movies, music and books you list, though primarily western, reflect what happens to a dream turned beyond nightmare. . . be it a western construct or not. . .

domo arigato mr. roboto. :)

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