’NO’ to Ostentatious Displays and Wasteful Expenses

dear ahmedmadani sahab, I thank you for your comments. To begin with let me clarify, I am no leftist/socialist. In fact I am opposed to the leftist method of doing things. I agree that ``It is not fault of rich and able people they make good living..`` but as individuals living in a particular society, rich or poor, we have our responsibilities towards the betterment of that society. I am just addressing those responsibilities. Please do not get depressed.

Bravo ! I whole heartedly support the writer`s viewpoint. Although it is none of my damn business ( pardon my French ! ) being away from the environs of South Asia for many years now, yet, being someone who saw life at the very `grassroots`, I respect the opinion expressed in the piece. Whereas Nawaz Sharif was a vicious and ambitious brat who had great `non-implementable` ideals, yet, the law under discussion, i.e. banning food in marriage ceremonies was one realistic step he took in his two terms as prime minister. Pakistan`s `well-meaning` elite that loves to show wealth and riches needs such laws to apply brakes on the `show of strength` of their enormous lust for glamour and glitter of rituals. As it is the almost invisible middle class is being crushed by the burden of economic issues. The emphasis on elaborate wedding ceremonies only added to the burden and the unhealthy competition in the society. One sincerely hopes that the Supreme Court decision is upheld in right earnest and enforced on all and sundry without `negative` discrimination. The Mian Sahibs, the Choudharies, the Seths and the Maliks should all be checked by the law enforcement agencies irrespective of their political or administration clout.

`` who on earth has told you that people think logically. None of us do, no matter how much we can profess to do so. Our society has a bigger impact on our upbringing and behavior than you are giving credit to and secondly, perhaps if you`re strong enough to resist, not everyone is a maverick. Given to ostentations for centuries of the Desi culture, Pakistan is still finding its roots of Islam It`s still more like India than a truly modern Islamic nation. ``

the biggest problem is desis never try !!!
hindu or muslim - most folks are chicken

JagDeCat #10,

Islam maybe, but what the heck should India learn from Pakistan? How to turn into a basket case country?

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I fully agree that it is not only a rdiculous decision it is also an un-Islamic one as is evidenced by an interesting Haddes quoted below:-

Sahih Bokhari,
Vol. I, Book 8, No.367

We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, `O Allah`s Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.` The Prophet said, `Go and take any slave girl.` He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, `O Allah`s Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.` So the Prophet said, `Bring him along with her.` So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, `Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.` Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her.``
Thabit asked Anas, ``O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?`` He said, ``Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her.`` Anas added, ``While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, `Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.` He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walima (the marriage banquet) of Allah`s Apostle .``

I like the lines on which Salil Kader is thinking. The ordinance sets a good precedent for anyone to follow, either side of the border.

# 18, Thanks for cvlarifying you are not socialist. Felt better at same time feel bad as you like their aims only you do not like their ways of doing equality business.
If people do not recognize most people who are poor are with full of problems. They breed like rats , they can not provide for one child but they will start assembly production of people . They do not care about any thing but sex and depriving children. Rich people have few kids but servants have fleets of children from different women. Just disgusting.Poor people guilt feeling of well to do people and exploit them . In elections they are darling of all political parties. Some body said god likes poor so he breeds them like that. There was useless poor guy on eid have to give him money for his irresponsible way. Every time addition to family amd misery. My country is always army rule or in shadow of army rule. This dictorship had been good if they can force one child per family like our greatest benefactor.India and pakistan doomed by babies they will kill all like ants. Just no water, food and air. I uderstand sex is good for poor as its like air to them( there is nothing much other) , they do not give damn and thank govt for permitting to produce babies and wreck country but deny sex they will feel choked. Our govt should reward for for having only one child. But they want more votes so they encourage more babies. All lafangebazzi. all even dictectors are lafangas i feel some time. They can wear nice military dress like boys but all poor lafangas

I have not read the actual jugement of the Supreme court banning the wedding meals. As however apears from the press reports the judges of the Supreme Court seem to have become `Taliban` as they have pontified that the customs like `barat` and `mehndi` are Hinduistic and be shunned. My question is ``Do the `honourable` judges consider Hinuism an abrogated religion as the Taliban held the Christian religion to be?``. If so will they tell us whether the present corrupt judicial system of Pakistan is Islamic.

I feel sad for a large amount of people from the hospitality industry who are going to go out of business. Whether an expenditure is wasteful or not, and even if it is wasteful and someone wishes to spend the money is of no business of the state. Next they will start passing laws about what clothes can be worn, what cars can be bought etc. The state should concentrate on improving law and order, and reducing poverty by providing jobs.

Marriages are an expensive business in the sub continent, and passing of laws is not going to change that. If you want to save money, then the bride and groom should be encouraged to run away and get married, or live in sin !!!! (Said in jest)

On a serious note with so many divorces taking place I think that soon people will realize that its not worth spending that kind of money on marriages, specially if it ends up in failure.

Sir,

Sometimes you can even learn from other people`s mistakes...not just from what they do right.

Hell, in Pakistan`s case, you can write & learn from entire volumes...:P

``The decree of the Pakistani court is of great importance to the Muslims of India. ``

Miyan ! tumhara sar phir gaya hai? When did IM-s started looking at the wonderful legislations of Pakistan for inspiration?? I am sure you are in that gullible and romantic stage of your life when fascination for PURE things is natural.........and quoting hadith justifies any stupid action..................

Aren`t Hollywood and Bollywood films with 5 Crore set extravagent especially when they are to be dismantled after the shoot?
What about the corporate dinners or the paid holidays on some private beach!
what about the election posters ? Democracies spend millions of rupees on strewing them all over the country??

So who decides what is ``extravagant`` ?

So is it a ``proof`` that the Pakistani Judiciary is proactive? OTH, it is just a cheap trick that Paki SC Judges want to get- the same guys who have given legitimacy to their dictators..............Can we imagine the food inspectors and police goons vandalizing marriage or some party in order to see whether any ``extravagancy`` has been commited or not??

Salil Kader,

There are many things wrong here. First, the court has usurped the function of the Legislature. The Judiciary is there to interpret the law and not make the law. The Court determining the number of guests and even the menu is deplorable. It is clearly trespassing into the privacy of the individual. It has been said often (mostly by me) that you can`t legislate your way to enlightenment or modernity. This is something that has to come from below. It can`t be imposed from the top. How does the Court propose to enforce it`s ruling? By appointing `wedding inspectors`? The term itself sounds obscene. More bureaucracy and more corruption.

Your opinions are heart-warming and intentions noble. However, as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I`m reminded of a movie I watched many years ago. The husband is a suspicious man slowly slipping into psychosis. He takes to locking up his wife before going to office everyday. The wife joyfully co-operates, agreeing that it is actually in her own good.

PS:
You can take heart from the J&K Government`s initiative in this regard. The terms imposed seem to be even more stringent than those of the Pakistani court.

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Though the author makes a well reasoned arguement, I oppose it on grounds of principle. The state should not be in the business. of monitoring celebrations.

Oye Karya

Tu RSS (Rashtreeya Sikh Sangat) da member hai? Tu tey uthey vi Islami panga vekhda hai jithey Hindu nu vee khyal nahi aanda. Chill mar dude, and remember Saukhi gal sab taun sikhni chaidi aey. That is what even Ballu needs to understand.

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