Gang-rape in Sui

malik sahib aap kis dunya maiN rehtay haiN? aap ka kalima kya hay?


sorry for asking these questions of you...we are all saddened for what happened with the poor doctor...and i have another confession to make...i do not know if there is anything that you or i could do to lessen her physical and mental sufferings...khair...

there is no God but the occupying army in pakistan....any one who thinks otherwise is welcome to leave...

the occupying army is the terminal cancer pakistan is afflicted with

malik imran, thanks for sharing this and making me aware of this sick tragedy. All of the eunuchs in uniform should be castrated for this crime against humanity. sadly, i am not surprised at this. why?

1972

Apr 29: Ghous Bakhsh Bizenjo appointed Governor Balochistan
May 1: Sardar Ataullah Mengal becomes chief minister of NAP-JUI coalition government in Balochistan
Oct 20: Leaders of major political parties reach understanding about future constitution
Dec 24: Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan returns from eight-year exile in Kabul

1973

January: Federal troops ordered to counter insurgency in Balochistan

February 10: The Iraqi consulate is raided to confiscate illegal ammunition smuggled from Russia. Involvement is suspected in the recent Balochistan and NWFP uprisings.

Balochistan government dismissed
February 13: Presidential rule is imposed on Balochistan. The Mengal government is dismissed on charges of involvement in the Iraqi consulate arms smuggling scandal.

The axe falls on the NWFP
February 15: The NWFP Governor Arbab Sikander Khan Khalil and Balochistan Governor Ghous Bakhsh Bizenjo have been dismissed, accused of involvement in the Iraqi consulate conspiracy. Chief Minister NWFP Mufti Mahmood of the JUI has resigned in protest.

Banned!
January: Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, the seasoned leader from the N.W.F.P. has been confined by the government to his village. He has just returned from eight-year exile in Kabul.

Jul 20: UDF observes ``Balochistan Day`` to protest against suppression of democratic rights in province

Aug 14: Baloch leaders, including Mengal, arrested under Article 280 of newly enforced constitution

1974

Wali Khan declares war
July: Wali Khan, the most important political leader in the NWFP, seems to have reached the end of his patience. Refering to the Bhutto regime`s sacking of the NAP-JUI government, the Pakhtoon leader is reported to have announced at a public gathering that the time for appeals has passed and his followers will now meet force with force.

White Paper blacks out the truth
October 19: The federal government has issued a White Paper on Baluchistan, claiming that the situation in that province is now normal and the army will be withdrawn in the near future. According to unofficial estimates, some 80,000 to 100,000 army personnel have been deployed in the province since trouble first broke out in Lasbela nearly two years ago. The White Paper also states that 5,501 rebels have surrendered, and 385 killed. These figures are disputed by the NAP. Meanwhile, three major NAP leaders, Mengal, Marri and Bizenjo are still in prison.

1975

Frontier Clampdown
February 10: Apparently in retaliation for the murder of its prime supporter in the NWFP on January 8 (Sherpao, left), the PPP government has banned the National Awami Party, accusing it of involvement in activities aimed at undermining the solidarity and sovereignty of the country. Top ranking party members, including Wali Khan, Arbab Sikander Khalil and Nawab Sikander Bakhsh, are arrested.

Jun 16: Supreme Court bench headed by Chief Justice Hamoodur Rehman begins hearing case `Govt vs. NAP` case; Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar represents government against defence led by Mahmood Ali Kasuri.

CASE 1
Background
Kohlu Kahan is a rough mountainous area, famous for Battle of Nafusk in 1839 when Marri Baloch’s defeated the British armies. Conquering British armies from Bangal till Punjab faced an entirely different situation where they faced Marri resistance and had to run back for the lives of survivors leaving behind their ammunition instead of passing through Bolan. After inclusion of Balochistan in Pakistan Marri Baloch’s faced a series of military operations including massive bombardment, majority of Marri’s had to migrate to Afghanistan where they lived in refugee camps for 22 years.
After a patch up with Pakistan govt. Marri came back, their water resources, agricultural lands and herds were completely destroyed; nothing was done for their rehabilitation. ``Unfortunately for the Marri`` the area of Kohlu Kahan is very rich in oil fields, which has become another reason for the destruction of Marri Baloch’s. To occupy oil and other minerals by the state the policy of divide and rule is applied on Marri’s that the very democratic tribe is first divided in ruling elite and commons, ruling elite have given opportunities for a very luxurious life and common Marri’s are now living below the line of poverty with no health, education, housing or income facilities.
The other division is instigated between sub-tribes (Bijarani & Gazeni) fighting on petty things, a small part of Bijarani elite is enjoying favours from state and Gazenies are out.
When they were united they were a power to resist invaders now they are the most vulnerable to state violence.
It was January 2000 when name of a Marri Baloch Judge nominated on seniority bases as coming Chief Justice of Balochistan High Court which was unacceptable for `the rulers` he was killed on road to High Court by gun shot.
Nawab Khair Baksh Marri an Eighty years old Chief of Marri tribes, who is one of the most popular leaders of Baloch nationalist movement which resists the policies and processes of snatching natural resources of Balochistan by the state, was arrested with the false allegation of murder of Justice.
On January 09, 2000, in the middle of the night police raided on a very poor and marginalized community of Marri’s working as labourers on daily wages near Quetta and arrested 106 people, took them to torture cells.
As a result of brutal torture several have lost their senses and majority facing physical abnormalities.
Now in the area of Kohlu Kahan Pakistan army is freely constructing cantonment structures, digging oil fields, kidnapping tribal people who show any resistance.

List of 106 illegal Detainees

1. Mohamad Umar s/o Naseer Khan
2. Razi Khan s/o Jamal Khan
3. Bijar Khan s/o Mazar Khan
4. Noor Mahammad s/o Khan Mohammad
5. Murad Khan s/o Wali Khan
6. Fateh Mohammad s/o Murad Khan
7. Karam Ali s/o Tagia
8. Dad Mohammad s/o Lashkari
9. Shadi Khan s/o Rahim Bakhsh
10. Sher Khan s/o Balach Khan
11. Abdul Rahman s/o Balach Khan
12. Ghulam Nabi son of Shabbo
13. Sher Khan son of Nabi…….
14. Shab..os son of Karamo
15. Jamal Khan s/o Wazir
16. Baz Mohammad s/o Wazir
17. Rozi Khan s/o Paind Khan
18. Mir Khan s/o Noor Jan
19. Arro Khan son of H.Haider
20. Ali Gul s/o sobedar
21. Mehr Gul s/o Qadir
22. Bahram Khan son of Shah Gul
23. Sohbat Khan s/o Maheen
24. Ali Khan s/o Dada
25. Mohammad Ali s/o Bachal
26. Fateh Mohammad s/o Jhawar Khan
27. Musa Khan s/o Jhawar Khan
28. Murad Khan s/o surat Khan
29. Sher Khan s/o Bahar han
30. Safar Khan s/o Bahar Khan
31. Mhanad s/o Salam Han
32. Moheem Khan s/o Umar Khan
33. Safar Khan s/o Alam Khan
34. Gul Khan s/o Sher Mohammad
35. Bangul Khan s/o Sher Mohammad
36. Qaisar Khan s/o sher Mohammad
37. Haibat Khan s/o Rameen
38. Akbar s/o Juma Khan
39. Din Mohammad s/o Juma Khan
40. Noor Mohammad s/o Jalal Khan
41. Khair Mohammad s/o Jalal Khan
42. Houran s/o Sobedar
43. Azalo s/o Dunia Khan
44. Panzo s/o Dunai Khan
45. Nasar Khan s/o Khan Jan
46. Khan jan s/o Wali
47. Mehroo s/o Wali
48. Musa Khan s/o Din Ali
49. Jalab Khan s/o Din Ali
50. Rasool Khan s/o Baz Mohammad
51. Khuda Bakhsh s/o Baz Mohammad
52. Paigul s/o Dil Murad
53. Dost Ali s/o Dilmurad
54. Sohbat Khan s/o Kolmir
55. Mai Khan s/o Bungul Khan
56. Safar Khan s/o Ameer Khan
57. Mir Mohammad s/o Ameer Khan
58. Aziz Khan s/o Zubair Khan
59. Mohammad Hussan s/o Mir Hussain
60. Jamal Khan s/o Allah Yar
61. Taghman s/o Ajeli Jan.
62. Dost Ali s/o Usman
63. Gul Mohammad s/o Guaram
64. Guaran s/o Gul Mohammad
65. Balach s/o Doran
66. Mir Khan s/o Doran
67. Zarib Khan s/o Balach
68. Houran s/o Balcah
69. Qaisar s/o Shadi Khan
70. Pir Bakhsh s/o Dilwash
71. Piro s/o Essa khan
72. Wali Dad s/o Jalaldin
73. Faiz Mohammad s/o Jalal
74. Musa Khan s/o Ghani Khan
75. Sherbat Ali s/o Paind Khan
76. Mhabat Khan s/o Paind Khan
77. Wahid Bukhsh s/o Khan Mohammad
78. Mohammad Noor s/o Jara
79. Jabar s/o Jara
80. Rashid s/o Nasar Khan
81. Ghazi Khan s/o Naseer Khan
82. Mohammad Jan s/o Rahim Khan
83. Barkat Ali s/o Bahgi
84. Shado s/o Murad Ali
85. Bangul Khan
86. Mohammad Khan s/o Gagi
87. Gul Khan s/o Qado
88. Hair Din s/o Alam Khan
89. Kabul Khan so/ Mukhtiar
90. Ali Baig s/o Mukhtiar
91. Raheem Bukhsh s/o Mukhtiar
92. Sohrab Khan s/o Sher Khan
93. Mian Khan s/o Nobat
94. Mahboob Ali s/o Mohammad Nawaz
95. Mitha Khan s/o Walia
96. Nazir s/o Mohammad Murad
97. Tariq s/o Zafarulla
98. Lohar s/o Bahawal
99. Ghulam Din s/o Sallah Mohammad
100. Nadir Khan s/o Jamal Khan
101. Anwar Ali s/oJamal Khan
102. Tangav Marri
103. Pir Jan s/oBand Ali
104. Gul Dad s/o Qado
105. Bagh Ali s/o Band Ali
106. Rafique s/o Mohammad Nawaz

Many more have been arrested till today.

``General Musharraf is equally correct when he says that the country is facing no external threat. Yes, the only menace Pakistan is facing today is from its parasitical, raping army.``

well said....Malik mian...well said

Musharruf raped the country at gunpoint in 1999 -- repeatedly raped the Constitution over the past 5 years with deceit and with force -- what one can expect from a rapist Dictator to punish his rapist army for that cowardly heinous crime against a helpless Pakistani woman -- who must have saved the despicable lives of some of those immoral -- unfit to live -- naamurd baastards.....

Pakistan is indeed an occupied country.... conquered and humiliated by its own wretched army...

Abu Gharib notswithstanding the behavior of US GI`s in Iraq has been exemplary. There have not been any accusations of rape or sexual misconduct by US troops. What is US supposed to be ? A decadent sex crazed society !!!

Malik,

This is yet another pathetic article from an educated pakistani. You focus on an event, completely forgetting about the culture that has created it, the constitution, the legal system and the social norms.

Malik, take it from me, talk about the Disat and qyat ordinances. You never did anything, even the general who changed the constitution did not dare to touch the founding values of pak society. Accept that the above legislation represent the core values of pakistan. The rape is only a physical manifestation of that value.

You cannot change that value unless you accept that that is the value supported by the elites of pakistan, including you. Do not hide that by blaming the army the rapist, the killer.

You the ducated do not accept the reality. write an article telling the world about the working of pak society. I have been on chowk for a long time, till the americans moved in, no one, even the most liberal of the chowk did not accept the truth that killing of samia sarvar was legal in pakistan and that is why no case was registered. for a long time, YLH of chowk tried hard o pass the case as an instance of corruption. At least, accept now, malik, the rape could be shown to be leagl in the land of the pure. There is no poilce case, no FIR, it is a judicila enquiry, a political issue. Malik, weep, weep for the apology of a nation

This is indeed very shameful and repugnant incident. Since I am unaware of the Pakistani army`s recent hurkaat`o`saknaa`t therefore I am not sure if cursing them is the solution. You can have a horrible person in the Pakistani Police System and he can even do worse than this. I do not think that this issue is about the institutions necessarily. It`s about the character of the masses.

Are you saying that all rape and murder cases have armymen behind them?

The armed forces should be critiqued for not making an effort to strengthen the Legal System in Pakistan. That`s the worst thing any leader can do to its people.

Zahra j #8

YES it is about the institution. we are talking about the institution where it is taught that BLOODY CIVILIAN .. where they are taught that they are the only TRUE Pakistanis left.. they roam on the carpet of gold which is righteously the hard earned money from the people who want to see their country strong

Yes u are rite that they are not behind every rape but they are surely behind every OTHER shameful thing that u wudnt want to listen about ARMY.. whether it is the killing of 7 civilians in Karachi and then doing a slap on the wrist sort of court marshal for Major SAAAB.. or it is the rape in balochistan . or if that is in shape of Rangers shootin on their own people on the border village of okara (Refer to hoodbhai article on okara visit)

I am talking about an army where a grade 20 office has a Toyota corona and the driver of that car will not switch off the car cz the AC is on and it is too hot to get out of the car . wat sort of soldier breed is that .. can u tell me that Which institution other then army has such facilities. I think there is none or is it. I have lived with these people for 22 years . I have seen how they act and react.. so trust me when I say that this is about the institution who breed and brain wash the boys into power hungy war gods.. same institution can bring the change IF it wants . it is not about masses it is about a disciplined bunch of people who are sworn to follow their commander till last drop of blood .



Malik #

a brilliant article.. needless to say that it wont even dent any thing.. the Recruitment lines for army wud be as long as they are . the leaders wud keep pouring our blood and sweat in their wine glasses in the name of Security.. we are a nation enslaved so bad by army that no one can free us.. no one at all .

i hate army as much as any one else. cz i belong to a background where my father being a civilian had to work the NA PAK FAUJ for a long time and the amount of hate and scorn Journail saaab`s have for civilians is unfathomable........ i, who has been educated in Cadet college and PAF colleges for most of my educational life and who shud be brain washed in favour of army, surprisingly hate them more then the i wud hate the enemies of Pakistan. u know ur enemies but wat to do when ur own vanguard is turning against you.



i have nothing more to say, but to pray that for once JUST FOR ONCE allah do some thing to prove his existence in Pakistan. because the way i see it . his men are taking over the role of god and they are doing one hell of a job to prove themselves as god.

Surprise! Surprise!! Ms. J and I are on the same page on this one. (Just praying that my fate is different than Romair and soysauce!)

There are two issues in Balochistan and everybody is trying to mix them up for their use.
The first issue is the distribution of the Natural gas royalties and the second is: what happened to the Lady Doctor?

I am no friend of the Army but how can you blame the whole institution, if one out of 500,000 was involved in some repugnant act? The GHQ certainly did not order it. The gruesome act of rape is fairly common throughout all communities all over the world.

You can work up all the sweat you want but rape issue should be handled separately from the political and economic issues in Balochistan.
I do have a question though: Why did Akbar Bugti and the gutter press in Pakistan choose to publicize her name? I think it is as horrific as the rape itself.

I personally don`t think Capt. Sahib was not involved in any rape it was dacoits..
but hum kya karen ? humaray passs kya koye dooss option hay? Balochi aur Sindis , Pakistan say alag honay ke jang nahin lar rahay magar apnay haqooq ke jang lar rahay hain , jab koye Baloch Nationalist yeh kehta hai kay janab app yeh karen warna hum alag ho jayen gay tu woh sirf air sirf darata hai thats it ... Baloch are fighting for the economic stake .. Baloch are fighting for Pakistan .. Baloch are fighting for the rights of deprived people of Pakistan .. .
Eid Mubarak to everyone whos reading ..
may Allah give Hadayat and give us all Blessings..
Salam Alikum

Re: Comment #10
I agree with you. Nawab Bugti in publicizing her name in the Pakistani Press has raped her once more for political leverage. Only God knows people`s intentions but I have a feeling this Nawab of the most backward and alienated province of Pakistan is using this poor woman`s honor as a metaphor for the honor of all Baluchis. What do you think HP and Zahra?

THE INVASION OF THE QABZA GROUP

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Are we getting upset because an educated woman was raped or are we getting upset at the role of the press and the government. Not a single woman in Pakistan is safe as long as the political,economic and cultural evironment condones rape. It has now become a matter of availability so the rapist pats himself on the back after raping and walks away a conquerer who has yet again managed to show a woman he is superior over her. Then the scociety rapes her all over again, stripping her of the shreds of dignity she is desperately holding on to.

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#16

Avoid links that require user names and passwords.

#16,

Can you cut and paste all parts of this article from Chicagotribune site?

thanks

I agree with you for the most part. Army people are to be blamed because they have tried to cover the criminal.
Just as a comment, ``there are no reports accusing Americans of raping, let alone gang-raping, Iraqi women`` is simply not true. The kind of pictures I`ve seen (which were later removed from that website, otherwise I would have posted the link) are horrible. It`s only in poor countries like ours that we learn how to control sexual desires. But not in US. And that`s why US soldiers create havoc in this regard wherever they are deployed. Even Washington Times reported the sexual offences US soldiers are doing there and according to that report, not even teenage boys are safe from them.
Rest of your article pretty much sheds light on true army behavior. In short, army`s motto is ``bloody civilians are less smart, are indisciplined and hence should be tamed by us.`` Given the lack of intelligence on part of Pakistani people, I am NOT surprised that many of them still support Pervez, the ultimate dictator.

jay-

you are right. much of our problems are based in where we historically see ourselves placed - or misplaced rather. And it is our inability to address that. For those of us who try to address it, we try, and we are ashamed.

However, I stand to defend the author of this article. We may disagree with the level of analysis and insight therein, but atleast the critique is leading to some better answers. I stand to defend all critics of our society, because with time, out of frustrated efforts we have even turned to strangle the critics in our society - and hence, bad has ceased to be bad, since no one says its bad. Now rape and honour killings seem to occupy smaller corners in the papers. I dread the day when they will cease to be news - like robberies and crimes, and army take-overs of land.

lets see things in context, jay.

-bilal

#14 nikki

ahhh and i thought u have some understanding and will try to speak out of intellect and not pure haterd towards pakistan being an indian... u brought it on ur self in kashmir... dont tell me that kashmir was a part of ur Great INDIA.. cz if that is soo then u have to explain wat Nehru said aba UN plebscite.. perhaps he was under the influence of alcohol .. that does tell about the leadership india had.. isnt it .

well keep dreamin that NWFP and BALOCHISTAN can break apart.. because army wotn let even if it means a mass genocide.. and if the revenge is sweet trust me all those jehadis are still waiting in the wings to tear india apart.. u shud go and thank USA for keeping them at bay for a while.. the question is not that if balochistan and nwfp is going to be seperated . question is that how long can u keep kashmir . nagaland.. asam.. and ur bombay mafia to wreck havoc in country..


aba rejoicing over pakistan.. may i suggest that try to feed ur country men who are ready to sell their daughters cheaper then wheat.... do rejoice but on the point that u dont have poverty and muslims can actually join Indian army in higher ranks .. but if u are still so naive to ignore all that and jump up and down on ur couch because some other country is fallin apart.. that goes to show that how low can indians stoop to have their kicks.

there was a poem by yeats..

``is their another troy for her to burn``..... after readin ur comment i so want to put

``is their another kargil for her to burn``

it is people like u who wud even make baghliar dam a problem and then wud preach about peace and love..

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re: rape of a girl in Australia
After this rape of a doctor in Pak by military officer (s), there is now news of a similar incidence perpetrated by a Paki cricketer (name withheld) in Australia. Detalis are awaited.
Why does it seem to me that the mindset involved is the same in both cases?
Sridhar

Well done Malik Imran! But this you could do only while sitting in Finland.
You can`t imagine to what depths the `Bloody Civilians` have fallen in this country. The case of the lady doctor is only a micro-manifestation of the `Macro-rape` to which this nation of the Pakland is being subjected. And the civilian stooges of the army are no less responsible for this. It was Bhutto who made the army a `Holy Cow` by enacting laws providing severe punishments for criticizing the army. And was it not a rape of the constitution to turn it into a `Fatwa`?

It was rightly said by a self-confessed stooge of the army, Pir Pagara, ``Countries have army but in Pakistan, army has a country``. So we Pakies are virtually slaves of the army. Does not Shariah allow non-consensual or non-civil sex with the slaves, whether male or female?

#15: Very valid points!

#11: I read your post with interest but I beg to differ with you. I do not read Pakistani Newspapers to know of the current affairs in that part of the world. They start with rapes, murders, lawlessness and they end in the same dirt. Yes, in the middle there are some highlights of Karachi Stock Exchange and a well-oiled picture of Shaukat Aziz. That`s neither pleasant nor entertaining.

I also don`t know the tribal areas and their way of expressing their concerns. But with all said and done, I do not think that Bugti was trying to use the woman`s name to accomplish any personal vendetta against the armed forces. I am saying this after reading a few excerpts here and there. I have not followed the story in its entirety.

Despite the prevalent madness, I do believe in the goodness of actions and people. He may be bringing her name up again and again to raise awareness on the horrible act. If you do not mention her name then no one knows that someone (real) was violated and who was behind it. There are 100s of women who are both violated and deprived of their basic rights in Pakistan. Can you name all of them? Can you ask a newspaper to compile the list in the past month or so?

In any country, facts have to be clearly stated to punish the crooks and institute justice. If you present a generic scenario with fictitious characters, no one can hold anyone accountable. Period. Bugti`s repeated mention has some validity behind it. I am not familiar with this Baluch or Pathan honor stuff, so I am not in a position to comment.

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mr. malik
after reading yr article i d only feel bad ..feel that every second indiv in pak army is a rapist, as if pak army consists of frustrated power hungry individuals who cant think straight.
whtever b the case, u cannot blame the whole institution for indiv acts, accepted tht its a shame...yet its very much like the american way of thinking,
linkin islam & muslims with terror & extreme
its necessary to voice yr opinion but
when we speak/think like a critic, we must think of an alternative feasible solution az well.
tryin to prove tht army is root cause of evil, do v hav ne alternatives? mian shareef? BB?who else? think bout it.

furqamanat : ``and if the revenge is sweet trust me all those jehadis are still waiting in the wings to tear india apart..u shud go and thank USA for keeping them at bay for a while.. ``

Your faith in your jihadis is touching...but naive... I am not sure about what USA has done for India , but Indian Army has certainly shown great aptitude for cutting off the phalluses of your brave jihadis and sending them off on an excruciatingly slow and painful journey to their maker and the 72 houris...

Pakistanis have been dreaming about India breaking into several pieces ever since the day Pakistan was formed in 1947....only to end up losing half their own country ....go ahead and dream on...

As far as your comment about muslim Indians not being able to reach high positions in Indian Army is concerned , just for your information - the current Commander-in-Chief of the Indian Armed Forces is a certain APJ Abdul Kalam.....

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General Musharraf says that the country is facing no external threat, but only internal threats.

Maybe it is because Pak army has decided to surrender before foreign enemies/challengers on all issues, but NOT READY to make any concilliations with the Pakistani civilians?

# 30 arjun_m
That link was Bookmarked by me. I had to format my hard drive once and although I had saved all of my important data in other drives, it was only Bookmarks which were lost. But I read that by myself. It was not about Iraqi men, it was about US soldiers. Why would I create such story by myself?

# 28 faylasuf
Army is to be blamed because if some crime is done by an army officer (which are plenty), it is covered by the whole institution. But if some crime is done by a civilian, ....................... One such ``crime`` was done by Constable Nazir Dogar, who stopped the car of a General because tinted glasses were banned. And not only that constable was beaten severly but also the officers of that constable had to suffer from the wrath of that general too (Don`t remember exactly they were fired or transferred).
They have to realize that we want army back in the barracks. The argument about incompetence of Nawaz and Benazir is totally invalid (and always presented by army people). First of all, political processes have to be allowed to carry on, improvements come with time. Secondly, even if one has a bad thing (corrupt politicians), he should NOT opt for the worst (army). Only after a few years of political process, some power hungry army general ``conquers`` the parliament house and carry on until his death. Let`s wait for another C130 for the present dictator.

I wonder when some chowky friends compare the army and the civilian political parties in the matter of governing the country. They forget that some fundamental moral and constitutional principles are involved in allowing any public servant to start ruling the nation. Then the question arises whether the Pak army can be considered as a public service organization subject to the rules of conduct prescribed for the public servants in general. This is the crux of the matter. How paradoxical it may seem, the Pak army still enjoys the status of the colonial army of the British Raj. Why? Because, in my view, no Pakistani nation worth the name could come into existence even after passage of 57 years of the existence of the country. Our National Anthem says “Qoum, Mulk, Saltanat, Paainda Tabinda Baad” when it actually should have been “Fouj, Mulk…..”. To attain our independence we will perhaps have to fight a war of independence like our East Pakistani brethren did. There is no other alternative to this. As for the politicians they are all stooges of the army. Look at Nawaz Sharif, he invited Army to take over the WAPDA and even the Railway, which obviously meant that all the civil society was composed of thieves and the army was the `Holy Cow’. How the citizens of Pakistan being consumer of the electricity, a national asset, suffered at the hands of corrupt WAPDA backed by ‘holy’ khakies requires a commission to look into like that of Hamoodurehman’s.

GANG RAPE OF SUI

Na Pak Fauj Used These Weapons of Mass Destruction to Annihilate me and My Family





Na Pak Fauj on its way to murder Pakistani Citizens (The newspaper caption however says that ``Army is training in Kashmore at Baluchistan-Punjab border)



The homicidal maniac and war criminal of Na Pak fauj Syed Athar Ali, Commander Jamshoro, instructing soldiers on how to kill Pakistani citizens

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In addition to my previous post, I would admit that in a country like Pakistan, it`s very hard to implement a strong legal system. The system has its own highs and lows, but it`s all about might is right and instituting law and order by force vs. teaching the basics in schools and colleges and institutions.

Lack of good opportunities for the general masses definitely creates wide chasms. Sometimes, one cannot even associate with the people of one`s origin mainly due to a complete different mindset.

In case of Baluchistan vs. the rest of Pakistan, obviously that world is very different and has not been treated well and fairly. The Baluchis` only source to put their foot down is by force than by anything else. By the way, all these assemblies and stuff must have reps from Baluchistan. Cannot they raise their concerns with a sane approach? On second thoughts, even if they do that, I am sure they know the results - no one will pay any heed and false promises will kick in. No doubt they like to dwell on gas lines to teach a lesson to their oppressors.

In the end, it`s all about keeping the country together. Unfortunately, there are very few similarities amongst the provinces except for the fact that religion is used or abused to keep people together. Ironically, people who have been making an effort to introduce religion abuse it the most.

NY Times had an interesting article this weekend on a Muslim country that is on the verge of being declared as an extremist country. Nope, it ain`t Pakistan. It`s Bangladesh. The pictures are ugly and abhorrent. Then they lament when the Westerners land on their lands to protect and teach civility.

re: Malik Imran

``According to a fresh investigation report released by the U.N. headquarters into the misdemeanours of U.N. peacekeepers stationed in Congo, Pakistani military officials, along with their counterparts from some other countries, were involved in systematic rape, prostitution paedophilia and not surprisingly subsequently obstructing U.N. inspectors looking into the allegations of sexual misconduct and sought to bribe witnesses to change their incriminating testimonies. ``

Actually these misdemeanors are alleged. There are 68 cases of ``alleged`` rape by UN peacekeepers from six countries (Nepal, Uruguay, Morocco, Tunisia, South Africa and Pakistan). No witnesses or evidence has been produced yet.

``Musharraf says it is not 1971. Yes, it is not!``

Actually Musharraf said that this is ``not the 1970s``. You apparently misunderstood what he said. He was referring to the 1973-77 insurgency in Baluchistan. He wasn`t referring to East Pakistan and the 1971 war.

``And since when we have started allotting prime time slot on national TV for alleged rapists to present their defence?``

Since when have we started taking allegations as proof of guilt? What right did Nawab Bugti and Marri tribesmen have in delivering verdict against Capt.Hammad and attacking the Sui installations? When allegations made through the media provoke people to take the law into their hands, then it is perfectly ethical and fair to allow the accused to present his defence on TV.

One is more likely to get raped or exploited by a Bugti sardar than by an Army captain. You are probably not aware that Akbar Bugti`s son Salim Bugti was an incorrigible womanizer who often abducted women from wells and bazaars. The criminal feudal system in Balochistan represents the last lawless frontier in Pakistan.

Does anything , anything discussed here makes any one think ? or we all are trying to bash each other? .. The Yindo`s ( Indians ) obviously trying there best to somehow tell us that Balochistan is Kashmir ( that means that Kashmiris really are fighting for the he right of freedom thanks to atleast accepting this ) - secondly, my brothers and sisters from Pakistan are trying to say to the Yindos ( Indians ) no , Balochistan is not Kashmir - or former East Pakistan - that leaves the root cause issue unaddressed ..!
We have a situation in Balochistan where Sardars ( Feudrals ) of Balochistan are fighting for the sake of fighting and the Army is fighting to convey that they are still in control - in between is the issue which is of NFC Awards and Royalties which is somehow been wrongly distributed . I do think the province of Punjab which is the biggest province of Pakistan according to population needs to show to the rest of remaining provinces that Punjab does care about other provinces.
Today PMA ( Pakistan Medical Assoc.) said in a statement that Dr. Sahiba along with her family is leaving Pakistan ( I think a wise move ) - I wish her good luck . The need of the hour is to negociate with Sardars ( and I know for sure due to my family members in one of the biggest Baloch Tribes in Balochistan and my father`s role in I.B ) this situation could be handled. To solve this problem Pres. Sahib should take a personal intrest and solve the problem even if Pres. Sabih has to fly to Dera Bhugtti. I know someone who lives in Karachi in a one bed room flat and is working for Americans whos very close to Bhugtti Sahib infact he knows what Bhugtti`s net step would be , Government of Pakistan should use him .

Malik Sahib,
Thanks for a timely and logical essary. I have also been wondering ``What is this PUNJABI obsession with rape?``

I hate to generalize but the picture seems to be emerging. PUNJABIS have a predisposition toward rape. In 1857, during the sack of Delhi, PUNJABI SIkh soldiers were leading the rapes of Muslim women and Mughal princesses of the city. In 1858, Sikhs raped the Muslim nobility of Lucknow. In 1947, PUNJABI Muslims raped and looted PUNJABI Sikh and PUNJABI Hindu women in West Punjab. PUNJABI Sikhs and some PUNJABI Hindus raped and slaughtered PUNJABI Muslim women in East Punjab and those travelling from Delhi and Western UP in trains to Pakistan. In 1971, the mostly PUNJABI Pakistan Army raped Bengali Hindu and Muslim women.

I don`t want to prejudice the outcome of any investigation but I would guess that the rapists of the lady physician and the Australian cricket rape victim were both PUNJABIS. What`s the problem? Don`t these PUNJUS get any at home? Are their own women so ugly and fat that they need to engage in this forceful extracurricular sexual debauchery?

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Yes Sir, I know, an accused is innocent until proven guilty. Very true. But since when suspects of a gang-rape, I repeat, gang-rape roam about, give TV interviews -- till proven guilty?

Give me a break, please. Zardari – rest assured, I have no love lost for that rascal - was kept in jail for 8 long years ever coming remotely closer to “proven guilty”. And you would agree that it is not likely that Zardari would ever be proven guilty … still almost all of us are almost sure about his many wrongdoings.

Likewise, would you explain any logical, rational reason to keep that doctor in hiding and to obstruct the police coming close to her? I mean the whole affair would have evaporated in thin air by now had she said that it was NOT that despicable Captain Hammad who forced into her room.

Then comes the idiocy: “His Highness Capt. Hammad” offering [sic] himself for DNA test. Oh! I see. How nice, how generous of him. Sir, bloody civilians are gratified. Kindly present him 21-guns salute on our behalf for being so courteous and showing willingness to be available. I really feel like kicking $hit out of him.

Imagine, your sister, my sister has been raped. Yes,dear, to me even that young lady raped and burnt in Karachi is as honourable as that hapless doctor or yours and mine sister and we fail to raise our voice, what justification would we have to exist as a nation, to call ourselves human beings let alone Muslims in that case.

Thanks a lot for reading my humble contribution on the subject and your extremely enlightening replies.

Best regards,

Yours truly

Malik Imran
Finland

Re: # 40
Arjun,
{``or if they happened, they were justified because they were part of a military operations(i`m not making this up...salim actually said this on UP)...``}

I am flattered to find that the eminent Indian interactor is paraphrasing me. Yes, the Pak army`s record in treatment of its own civilians is at the best, dismal, except in Punjab, which is where most of them hail from. The record speaks for itself:

BD - 1971
Karachi - 1989 - 1999
Wana - 2004
Baluchistan - 2005

Raping, killing, torturing happened in Karachi during civilian ``democratic`` governments of BB and Nawaz Sharif - so let`s not be hasty in blaming military rule for all rapes. It sure makes all those charges against Indian military`s behavior in J&K sound very hollow. Sorry folks, I got to call it as I see it.

Re: # 37



Rape is the most heinous crime but unfortunately it is not treated as a state case like murder. As it is, they expect the rape victim to lodge an FIR. As no FIR was lodged by the victim who was stated to be in a state of severe trauma there was no formal accused in this case. In fact, as appears from the reports, the local police was not allowed to investigate the case and the victim was shifted to Karachi out of jurisdiction of that police. It is perhaps the first time in history that before the victim could even tell her story the man suspected of the crime has been allowed to make a pre-emptive defense on the national TV in its prime time.

Isn’t it the rape of our legal and judicial system?

Three cheers for Mr. Imran. Well the only way out is a revolution. “Not by our pre-tested political gurus” but by the proletariat. I recently visited Pakistan and asked a friend about the current political scenario and the reply was:
“in democracy only the politicians and their families took kickbacks but nowadays the whole army + their friends in addition to the politicians, civil servants and judiciary are taking kickbacks”

Inqalab zindabad!!

Chand roz our…
By Faiz Ahmed Faiz

cha.nd roz aur merii jaan faqat cha.nd hii roz
zulm kii chhaa.Nv me.n dam lene par majabuur hai.n ham
ik zaraa aur sitam sah le.n ta.Dap le.n ro le.n
apane ajdaad kii miiraas hai maazuur hai.n ham
jism par qaid hai jazbaat pe za.njiire hai
fikr mahabuus hai guftaar pe taaziire.n hai.n
aur apanii himmat hai ki ham phir bhii jiye jaate hai.n
zindagii kyaa kisii muflis kii qabaa hai
jis me.n har gha.Dii dard ke paiba.nd lage jaate hai.n
lekin ab zulm kii miyaad ke din tho.De hai.n
ik zaraa sabr ki fariyaad ke tho.De hai.n
arsaa-e-dahar kii jhulasii hu_ii viiraanii me.n
ham ko rahanaa hai par yuu.N hii to nahii.n rahanaa hai
ajanabii haatho.n kaa benaam garaa.N-baar sitam
aaj sahanaa hai hameshaa to nahii.n sahanaa hai
ye terii husn se lipaTii hu_ii aalaam kii gard
apanii do rozaa javaanii kii shikasto.n kaa shumaar
chaa.Ndanii raato.n kaa bekaar dahakataa huaa dard
dil kii besuud ta.Dap jism kii maayuus pukaar
cha.nd roz aur merii jaan faqat cha.nd hii roz

yes yes....

I can see.... another GAME has started.....

Now seriously.... Punjab should think about.... Letting All others GO....

Its not worth it any more......



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Mystery shrouds doctor’s rape case

Hasan Mansoor
The government, police and the PPL management seem to have joined hands to ensure that the truth of Shazia`s rape is kept from the media and the public
The Friday Times
Jan 28-Feb 3, 2005

While the government has indicated that it would allow the DNA test of the army officer suspected of raping Dr Shazia Khalid Khwaja in the hostel of the Sui Field Hospital, events so far have only served to deepen the mystery and indicated that officials might be trying a cover-up.

Immediately after news of the alleged gang rape broke out, Dr Shazia was shifted from Sui to Karachi and has so far not been allowed to speak with the media or human and women’s rights organisations. A judge of the Balochistan High Court flew to Karachi to record the doctor’s statement which he did at an undisclosed location and then returned to Quetta as quietly as he had flown to Karachi.

What most observers find surprising is that the government and its agencies are trying hard to keep the doctor away from the media. Newspaper and TV channels were not informed about the presence of the judge or where the doctor was made to depose before the one-man tribunal of Justice Ahmed Khan Lashari. The contents of her statements also remain unknown, making analysts question the reasons for her prolonged silence.

Even more objectionable is the attitude of the management of Pakistan Petroleum Limited (PPL). The incident happened in a heavily guarded perimeter. Not only that it did happen despite security, the PPL management would not allow the local police to enter the perimeter and investigate the incident or talk to the victim. A preliminary investigation report submitted by the local police questions the role of PPL officials at the Sui field and accuses them of covering up the incident in an attempt to protect the ‘real’ culprits.

The report says the PPL officials did not help the police contact the victim immediately after the rape either to examine her or to record her statement. The report also alleges that the victim was shifted to Karachi against police advice. The report revealed that while police officials tried to record the statements of some nurses, two lady doctors of the hospital and other PPL staff on duty, the PPL management did not cooperate with investigating officials. Sources say the PPL tried to sweep the matter under the carpet by shifting Shazia from Sui to a Karachi psychiatry hospital immediately after the rape.

According to another report prepared by the police, PPL officials initially claimed that the case was one of theft. This claim was, of course, immediately struck off by the Naseerabad district police whose report also questioned how could the victim be moved from Sui to Karachi if she were unconscious – which was the reason provided by the PPL management for why Shazia was unable to give a statement – and why she could not give a statement if she had indeed been in a state in which she could travel.

Sources say Shazia was shifted to the Karachi hospital as an “acutely depressed and traumatised” person for the treatment of a mental illness. “PPL officials who escorted her to the hospital tried to provide an incorrect medical history of the patient to the hospital,” a source told TFT. “The doctors at the hospital became suspicious after finding several inconsistencies in the statements of the PPL staff who brought Shazia to the hospital. They finally called her relatives and were told that she had been raped,” added the source.

It was after this that the private hospital suggested that Shazia be moved to a government hospital for her medico-legal examination. She later underwent medical examination at the police surgeon’s office where it was confirmed that she had been raped. The medico-legal examiners found bruises on her writs and ankles suggesting that she had been tied with a wire-like thing. Contusion marks and nail-scratches were also found on different parts of her body. The report also confirmed that more than one person was involved in the rape.

Keeping in mind PPL’s attitude towards the police, the district coordination officer of Naseerabad, Abdul Samad Lasi, told TFT that the police had registered two FIRs in the case: one against the culprits involved in the rape and another against the doctors at the PPL who had covered up the incident.

However, the police that initially protested the PPL’s cover-up is now itself involved in keeping the truth about Shazia’s case away from the media. The efforts of journalists to get inside her Clifton apartment remain unsuccessful in the presence of heavily armed guards. In fact, it is not just the police that has been deputed to keep a watch on the building but several agencies have also been tasked to keep the media away from the premises.

A close relative of Shazia who recently visited Karachi to distribute cards for a family wedding told TFT that he had not been able to meet Shazia but that conversations with the rest of her family showed that they were greatly disturbed by the situation “Shazia’s family have stopped watching television due to the fear of what they might hear or see in speculative reports,” said Shazia’s relative. “They are already quite disturbed by a report that appeared in a Sindhi newspaper in which the names and addresses of each member of the family were published, making it difficult for them to maintain social relations with close relatives and family members residing in their native village,” he added.

Recently, Shazia’s husband Khalid Khwaja told the secretary general of the Pakistan Medical Association, Dr Shershah Syed, that the family was frightened that feudal elements in Khairpur would try to kill Shazia as a kari.

“I could not meet Shazia at her house but I have talked to her husband on the telephone a few times,” Dr Syed told TFT. “Khalid has requested that I arrange for Shazia to leave the country if it means her life will be saved.”

“This fear is unfounded because Shazia’s family and community in Khuhra have no connections with the feudal lords; they are business people who own shops and small pieces of land used for mango farming,” said an observer. “Certainly, those that her family claim want to kill her have no blood relation with her.”

However, the family’s concern for Shazia’s life has prompted NGOs from western countries to take interest in the case and offer to help save her life by arranging for Shazia to leave the country. “We are in contact with all concerned parties and are hopeful that we will succeed in protecting her,” Syed said. “If she is facilitated by these NGOs and goes abroad, the government will be relieved of the burden of protecting her.”

Information gathered from Sindh and Balochistan suggests that the public is not at all pleased with the fact that Shazia is in the undeclared custody of the authorities while the army captain who has been accused of raping her is being given the opportunity to appear on state-run as well as private television channels and declare his innocence.

“Circumstances suggest that Shazia is not wilfully silent; she is most probably being forced to remain silent,” Ali Hasan Chandio, a Sindhi nationalist and vice chairman of the Sindh Taraqqi Pasand (progressive) Party told TFT.