Pervez Hoodbhoy February 16, 2005
#561 Posted by kardesh on February 27, 2005 6:24:20 am
Re: # 551
Vivek,
You got me on this. I have driven through Buffalo. Please provide some details. I am always interested in upgrading.
Vivek,
You got me on this. I have driven through Buffalo. Please provide some details. I am always interested in upgrading.
#560 Posted by kardesh on February 27, 2005 6:20:05 am
Haroon,
To you this is just a sophomoric exercise in ``my mom`s better than your mom`` rhetoric. That is why you are so upset at having a Mohajir Paki tell you the truth. It must sting and I can understand your reaction. Start looking at matters from a humanitarian perspective and your ardent jingoism may undergo a change for the better. The raison d`etre for Pakistan has been redefined over and over, following every major setback, so that now it is reduced to merely Punjabi hegemony over the rest of the country. When Punjabi Rangers ransacked Karachi, brutallized and killed people, raped girls, and unleashed a regin of terror on the city, the formerly docile Mohajirs learned to hate and fight back. We are not interested in fighting Indians or taking Kashmir by force, only to increase the number of our own tormentors. Do you understand?
To you this is just a sophomoric exercise in ``my mom`s better than your mom`` rhetoric. That is why you are so upset at having a Mohajir Paki tell you the truth. It must sting and I can understand your reaction. Start looking at matters from a humanitarian perspective and your ardent jingoism may undergo a change for the better. The raison d`etre for Pakistan has been redefined over and over, following every major setback, so that now it is reduced to merely Punjabi hegemony over the rest of the country. When Punjabi Rangers ransacked Karachi, brutallized and killed people, raped girls, and unleashed a regin of terror on the city, the formerly docile Mohajirs learned to hate and fight back. We are not interested in fighting Indians or taking Kashmir by force, only to increase the number of our own tormentors. Do you understand?
#559 Posted by kardesh on February 27, 2005 6:09:56 am
Haroon #552,
{``I am flabbergasted by the lack of reasoning capabilities being shown by most of you people. ...Arjun_m, how old are you? Kardesh, drop dead. ``}
In light of the above dichotomy, I think you have demonstrated a lack of reasoning capabilities. Grow up, boy!
{``I am flabbergasted by the lack of reasoning capabilities being shown by most of you people. ...Arjun_m, how old are you? Kardesh, drop dead. ``}
In light of the above dichotomy, I think you have demonstrated a lack of reasoning capabilities. Grow up, boy!
#558 Posted by tahmed32 on February 27, 2005 3:56:40 am
HP: and now, no doubt, my camp follower mohar will pop his head up to let loose a shower of abuse at mullah tahmed for throwing cold water on their delusional little heads. ha! ha!
#557 Posted by tahmed32 on February 27, 2005 3:55:15 am
HP #553 indeed! it is not just the material poverty. it is the cultural attitudes - primitive in many ways not just compared to the US but compared to Pakistan and indeed some practices found ``only in india`` - the brutalization of minorities by mobs of cowardly men as in gujerat; the abuse of medical technology to abort female fetuses (there is a ``bridal deficit`` of 25 million in the delhi/haryana area alone, according to an article last year in the WP), the burning of brides by dowry-hungry husbands, the case system, and the general attitude of arrogance and hatred for muslims that is evident on chowk. The damned list goes on.
Of course we in Pakistan have our own primitive practices under the guise of religion. But pakistanis themselves are the first to recognize and criticize that. These people live in a dream world.
Of course we in Pakistan have our own primitive practices under the guise of religion. But pakistanis themselves are the first to recognize and criticize that. These people live in a dream world.
#556 Posted by tahmed32 on February 27, 2005 3:43:19 am
haroon: please dont confuse our indian friends with facts. ;-)
#555 Posted by tahmed32 on February 27, 2005 3:41:08 am
MaheshG #554 And you need to get your heads checked. That is all WE are saying. ha! ha!
#554 Posted by MaheshG2 on February 27, 2005 2:18:20 am
#553 HP,
India is a US when compared to Pakistan. That`s all we are saying.
#553 Posted by HP on February 27, 2005 12:45:24 am
#550 by tahmed32 on February 26, 2005 7:21pm PT
”rsridhar #549: one minor problem - India is not the US. And Pakistan is not Mexico.”
Sheesh! Tahmed don’t wake them up from their dreams. The Chaddi brigade really has the illusion that India is as rich as the US.
They forget that only 2.5% Indians have their own car/jeep/vans of all kinds, only 13% owns motorcycles, 43% population is proud of their bicycles, and rest of the population is still happy with Bullock carts as their primary mode of transportation.
70% of the population still lives in villages and a majority in extreme poverty. 50% of poor Asians live in India.
http://www.censusindia.net/results/2001census_data_index.html
Indian Housing:
Material of wall made of: mostly Grass 24,737,121 9.9%
Mud, Unburnt Brick 73,799,162 30%
Material of roof: Grass, Thatch, Bamboo, Wood, Mud, etc. 53,386,004 21.4 %
In other words 40% of the population barely has roof over their heads.
Material of floor:
Mud 136,779,853 54.9% . 70% of the rural population has mud floor. 124,855,981 70.3 %
56% of the population has no electricity and a full 64% population has no bathroom in their houses.
India does look like the US!
Please don’t wake them up from the wet dreams! They are seriously delusional!
#552 Posted by HaroonEllahi on February 27, 2005 12:25:08 am
I am flabbergasted by the lack of reasoning capabilities being shown by most of you people.
Mexico didn`t complain about the U.S adventures in Texas and California? Dude! Are you on DRUGS?
They fought two wars over it! Santa Anna ka nam kabhi suna hai? Which world do you people live in? Heck, If the Mexicans did not surrender, all of Mexico could have been anexxed. 1/3 of Mexico was, and the Americans were at the gates of Mexico City, where a treaty was signed. America later paid Mexico around 18 million dollars. It was an attempt by America, rather pathetic in my opinion, to give Mexico a `DIGNIFIED EXIST`.
Arjun_m, how old are you?
Kardesh, drop dead.
Mexico didn`t complain about the U.S adventures in Texas and California? Dude! Are you on DRUGS?
They fought two wars over it! Santa Anna ka nam kabhi suna hai? Which world do you people live in? Heck, If the Mexicans did not surrender, all of Mexico could have been anexxed. 1/3 of Mexico was, and the Americans were at the gates of Mexico City, where a treaty was signed. America later paid Mexico around 18 million dollars. It was an attempt by America, rather pathetic in my opinion, to give Mexico a `DIGNIFIED EXIST`.
Arjun_m, how old are you?
Kardesh, drop dead.
#551 Posted by vivek on February 26, 2005 8:00:14 pm
kardesh #547,
Good deal, but no Ind-Pak girl even come close to the waitresses at the nearest BuffaloWW bar.
Good deal, but no Ind-Pak girl even come close to the waitresses at the nearest BuffaloWW bar.
#550 Posted by tahmed32 on February 26, 2005 7:21:25 pm
rsridhar #549: one minor problem - India is not the US. And Pakistan is not Mexico.
But never mind...please continue your discussion and sorry for the interruption. I just checked in to see if there was anything interesting going on on this board.
But never mind...please continue your discussion and sorry for the interruption. I just checked in to see if there was anything interesting going on on this board.
#549 Posted by rsridhar on February 26, 2005 7:14:52 pm
re: 541 by Netizen
Texas and California i believe belonged to Mexico in the past. Still, i do not see Mexicans complaining! I guess they are busy counting their dollars!
Or else, they are just pragmatic about the new historical realities and know that nothing much can be done about the past but the future is in one`s hands. Can the Pakistanis learn some useful tips from here? I hope so.
Sridhar
Texas and California i believe belonged to Mexico in the past. Still, i do not see Mexicans complaining! I guess they are busy counting their dollars!
Or else, they are just pragmatic about the new historical realities and know that nothing much can be done about the past but the future is in one`s hands. Can the Pakistanis learn some useful tips from here? I hope so.
Sridhar
#548 Posted by Netizen on February 26, 2005 7:01:27 pm
Re: # 541
``Mexico has never complained that its northern neighbour is big and a bully. It has no reasons to. It has found ways to prosper with USA.``
didn`t texas and california belong to mexico earlier?
``Mexico has never complained that its northern neighbour is big and a bully. It has no reasons to. It has found ways to prosper with USA.``
didn`t texas and california belong to mexico earlier?
#547 Posted by kardesh on February 26, 2005 6:12:14 pm
Re: # 532
Vivek,
Don`t knock her thick lips. She is a goddess! You can have Meera. Just let us have Priyanka and BTW, keep J&K.
Vivek,
Don`t knock her thick lips. She is a goddess! You can have Meera. Just let us have Priyanka and BTW, keep J&K.
#546 Posted by rsridhar on February 26, 2005 4:57:07 pm
re: trading with India
A relevant article on trade.
http://us.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/19guest2.htm
Note how Srilanka is finding trade with India very beneficial.
Sridhar
A relevant article on trade.
http://us.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/19guest2.htm
Note how Srilanka is finding trade with India very beneficial.
Sridhar
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