The Ultimate Violation
Beena Sarwar February 20, 2005
#24 Posted by irfanhamid on February 21, 2005 7:44:56 am
Beena,
Thanks for a great article, the account by the sister-in-law was heartrending. I believe we as a nation need to take decisive steps to stop this vicious perpetration of violence against women. Steps need to be taken at the governmental as well as social levels to stop this beast in its tracks.
1) Much stricter laws for violence against women. But only promulgation of laws is not sufficient, they need to be implemented with an iron fist as well. The government is the main agent for this.
2) Watchdog organizations that pursue these cases effectively. I once volunteered for an NGO that helped women suffering from domestic violence. After about a month of attending meetings I realized that all they were interested in was talking and flirting.
3) A basic change at societal level where it is drilled into children (at school and at home) that women must be respected. That they are equals and should be treated as such. No more should a brother be given the better piece of chicken at dinnertime than his sister by the grandmother, no more should brothers be sent to better schools/universities because they have a penis while their sisters are denied a good education, as this instills in the child that he is somehow superior just because he is male.
4) The financial empowerment of women from all strata of society so that they gain independance from abusive spouses/fathers.
Thanks for a great article, the account by the sister-in-law was heartrending. I believe we as a nation need to take decisive steps to stop this vicious perpetration of violence against women. Steps need to be taken at the governmental as well as social levels to stop this beast in its tracks.
1) Much stricter laws for violence against women. But only promulgation of laws is not sufficient, they need to be implemented with an iron fist as well. The government is the main agent for this.
2) Watchdog organizations that pursue these cases effectively. I once volunteered for an NGO that helped women suffering from domestic violence. After about a month of attending meetings I realized that all they were interested in was talking and flirting.
3) A basic change at societal level where it is drilled into children (at school and at home) that women must be respected. That they are equals and should be treated as such. No more should a brother be given the better piece of chicken at dinnertime than his sister by the grandmother, no more should brothers be sent to better schools/universities because they have a penis while their sisters are denied a good education, as this instills in the child that he is somehow superior just because he is male.
4) The financial empowerment of women from all strata of society so that they gain independance from abusive spouses/fathers.
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#23 Posted by Saminasha on February 21, 2005 5:43:56 am
nb,
Not just pma, but as many Pak Am orgs as possible should be organizing/responding... Good article-I didnt know about Anaa.
Not just pma, but as many Pak Am orgs as possible should be organizing/responding... Good article-I didnt know about Anaa.
#22 Posted by nb on February 21, 2005 1:22:38 am
Beena, I have asked this on unplugged, but I will say this again: the Pakistani Medical Association needs to act on this. I have myself worked in unsafe places in India, but you do it because it`s dinned into us that the patients` needs come first. But the time has come that Pakistani doctors act as a group. What have they done so far? I have read a couple of letters to editors of journals, etc, but what have they done to make sure the victim receives justice and this never happens again? Yes, I know, this shouldn`t happen to anyone at all; but many of us doctors do think being doctors somehow protects us. Time to wake up!
#21 Posted by Jahil on February 20, 2005 10:24:15 pm
Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law breaker, it breeds contempt for the law. Justice Louis D. Brandeis
Where law ends, tyranny begins. Margaret Thatcher
There is a higher court than courts of justice and that is the court of conscience. It supersedes all other courts. Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi
In Pakistan tyranny rules, the government is a law breaker and the courts of justice are dictated by the symbols of injustice.. Hence, we are left with no other option then to resort to the court of conscience…. come out on the streets and bring revolution... throw the culprits/ dictators/ law breakers out of their offices and let the proletariat rule the country.
or else, some sympathetic ex-pats/ Pakistanis/ humanitarians would keep on arranging for the exile of the innocent.. and the culprits will carry on abusing the masses/ underprivileged while being in the country..
Where law ends, tyranny begins. Margaret Thatcher
There is a higher court than courts of justice and that is the court of conscience. It supersedes all other courts. Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi
In Pakistan tyranny rules, the government is a law breaker and the courts of justice are dictated by the symbols of injustice.. Hence, we are left with no other option then to resort to the court of conscience…. come out on the streets and bring revolution... throw the culprits/ dictators/ law breakers out of their offices and let the proletariat rule the country.
or else, some sympathetic ex-pats/ Pakistanis/ humanitarians would keep on arranging for the exile of the innocent.. and the culprits will carry on abusing the masses/ underprivileged while being in the country..
#20 Posted by ahmedmadani on February 20, 2005 10:19:00 pm
Re: # 17
Mr. Jay... thanks for your comment.
Science has no value in masses ( masses are asses). Honestly people from subcontinent do not give damn to these people. I have never seen article about most interesting mathematician from India Mr Ram Nu Jan anywhere in india on his birthday or memoral day( was he dalit or what? I do not know). I read a english book about 21 great mathematicians it included Mr. Ram. Also we do not give damn to Mr. C S Chandrashekhar who was born in karachi. People have no value system about that. You may agree with me both Mr. Kalam or Mr. Khan are not scientist in real sense but engineering managers. No body is nominating them for any scientific achivement but most Desi feel there are ``Great Scientist``. If take pole Mr. Khan will be greatest scientist of Pakistan.
I think they can have you mentioned scientist day without any problem. No body gives damn about these things its mostly Lafangebazi.
Most people are not exposed to liberating ideas about socialism in Pakistan is problem. Socialist economic ideas have not deliverd but the liberal influence and liberating and ethos of questioning status is paramount. The middle class lacks vision as without vision is no light is condition in my country. Due to this the society has lost erotic content as as can be seen in abscence of women in crowds compared to India. The sexual content in society is very less which results in punching bottoms of women in public transport, purposeful touching of women in public places its perversion. Most men see bad moves and content in internet in cafes ( read Beena Shah`s novel) in less lighted places and they he is facing world with many freudian complexes. He becomes submissive about mother and sister but extremely aggressive about other women a typical passive aggresive. He looks at women as if he never seen female on earth, he disrobes mentally which is terrible than many things. Even good people get addicted to this type of molestations. Many young women try to make themselves ugly so not to attract perverts. Many parks are off for females unaccompied. Most pakistanis like india for sexual content in your society. I have been to India most notable thing is prescence of women , women driving scooters, walking , he likes it but at same time he feels its sexual so does not want his mother or sister do that. Its joyful experience if you are coming from interior sindh or many place of B.stan or NWFP. This same condition of young men brought up in sexual repressive society even in cities. So even if Pakistani goes to usa you can not change him mentally. He is like old dog, can not teach new tricks. He does not want to go to source of problem as then he has to go against current and conservative, ill logical timid mind can not think of going against current. I have seen many of our lucky boys they go to perdesh, do zina sex etc,drink wine and liquior, eat pork, eat larded burgers, do not pray, do not live pious life,watch bad movies and bad books brag about it, admire sexuality of women of west world but as he thinks about his own family he becomes conservative can kill his sister for infringement ( which he habitually does and boasts) he becomes conservative as if he is born in Kingdom of S. Arabia. People accept all these in fact people will give succulent reasoning for existance of system. It is to credit of Turky Pasha he changed lot he was social revolutionary in real sense. Indian cinema is liberating to some extent as it is most liked and slowly those sinful things sink down.
Basically nothing can be done realiastically due to lack of liberal ethos. Women of country are destined for miseries to come for years.
I am pragmastic and do not believe in army or man or gods miracles. They can not cure women must endure.
Mr. Jay... thanks for your comment.
Science has no value in masses ( masses are asses). Honestly people from subcontinent do not give damn to these people. I have never seen article about most interesting mathematician from India Mr Ram Nu Jan anywhere in india on his birthday or memoral day( was he dalit or what? I do not know). I read a english book about 21 great mathematicians it included Mr. Ram. Also we do not give damn to Mr. C S Chandrashekhar who was born in karachi. People have no value system about that. You may agree with me both Mr. Kalam or Mr. Khan are not scientist in real sense but engineering managers. No body is nominating them for any scientific achivement but most Desi feel there are ``Great Scientist``. If take pole Mr. Khan will be greatest scientist of Pakistan.
I think they can have you mentioned scientist day without any problem. No body gives damn about these things its mostly Lafangebazi.
Most people are not exposed to liberating ideas about socialism in Pakistan is problem. Socialist economic ideas have not deliverd but the liberal influence and liberating and ethos of questioning status is paramount. The middle class lacks vision as without vision is no light is condition in my country. Due to this the society has lost erotic content as as can be seen in abscence of women in crowds compared to India. The sexual content in society is very less which results in punching bottoms of women in public transport, purposeful touching of women in public places its perversion. Most men see bad moves and content in internet in cafes ( read Beena Shah`s novel) in less lighted places and they he is facing world with many freudian complexes. He becomes submissive about mother and sister but extremely aggressive about other women a typical passive aggresive. He looks at women as if he never seen female on earth, he disrobes mentally which is terrible than many things. Even good people get addicted to this type of molestations. Many young women try to make themselves ugly so not to attract perverts. Many parks are off for females unaccompied. Most pakistanis like india for sexual content in your society. I have been to India most notable thing is prescence of women , women driving scooters, walking , he likes it but at same time he feels its sexual so does not want his mother or sister do that. Its joyful experience if you are coming from interior sindh or many place of B.stan or NWFP. This same condition of young men brought up in sexual repressive society even in cities. So even if Pakistani goes to usa you can not change him mentally. He is like old dog, can not teach new tricks. He does not want to go to source of problem as then he has to go against current and conservative, ill logical timid mind can not think of going against current. I have seen many of our lucky boys they go to perdesh, do zina sex etc,drink wine and liquior, eat pork, eat larded burgers, do not pray, do not live pious life,watch bad movies and bad books brag about it, admire sexuality of women of west world but as he thinks about his own family he becomes conservative can kill his sister for infringement ( which he habitually does and boasts) he becomes conservative as if he is born in Kingdom of S. Arabia. People accept all these in fact people will give succulent reasoning for existance of system. It is to credit of Turky Pasha he changed lot he was social revolutionary in real sense. Indian cinema is liberating to some extent as it is most liked and slowly those sinful things sink down.
Basically nothing can be done realiastically due to lack of liberal ethos. Women of country are destined for miseries to come for years.
I am pragmastic and do not believe in army or man or gods miracles. They can not cure women must endure.
#19 Posted by twintopaz on February 20, 2005 10:14:36 pm
Dear all,
Is there any PRACTICAL way of helping the victim to get justice?
lets not waste our energy arguing with each other..i am sure ALL of us wants that criminals should be punished..so lets act..lets do something..chowk is a good plate form to use ...any suggestions?
Is there any PRACTICAL way of helping the victim to get justice?
lets not waste our energy arguing with each other..i am sure ALL of us wants that criminals should be punished..so lets act..lets do something..chowk is a good plate form to use ...any suggestions?
#18 Posted by BeeJay on February 20, 2005 9:19:55 pm
Ms. Sarwar, I have three points to make:
1) Subjugation of the weak in general, and women in particular is a world-wide phenomenon. What happened to the lady doctor in question was terrible, of course, but unfortunately it is not an isolated event, just another manifestation of the same disease which leads to all those dowry deaths in India and the female circumcisions in Nigeria, etc. Pakistan is a special case with three parties: the army has the absolute powers of a dictatorship (which makes it absolutely arrogant, as well as corrupt), further compounded by a rooted-in-tradition feudal structure which is incapable of thinking outside the box (note the terms “pure and unsullied”, “honour”, “talk of Karo Kari”, all coming from people who are on HER SIDE, as if such terms have relevance in the twenty-first century, one would think that by now the whole world knows that rape is not a crime of sex, but that of violence), and the “all-knowing” beards (about whom the less said the better). Perhaps the media and rights organizations are hoping that this event will provide the spark which can invoke in people the courage to bring down this dictatorial, unjust set-up. However, the powers in place are well aware of that possibility and will do everything they can to prevent it. Unfortunately, the gun-powder (the outrage among the people) has been so deeply permeated through repeated abuse by those three parties, it is no more capable of lighting up. Period.
2) This really, really hurts (the idealist in me) to admit, since I so much feel for the lady doctor, but if I were a caring friend of her, my advice would be to (a) get away from that negative environment, (b) get some serious counseling to deal with the trauma, (c) pick up the pieces that you can, (d) proceed to live your interrupted life, keeping in mind that (e) life will never be the same again, but over time, your positive actions will help your injured dignity to recover. The doctor did not seek out to become a poster child for the rights groups, and if she wishes to be left alone, that wish should be respected.
3) The media has a job to do. It is doing the best it can, given the setup that exists, often at great risks for themselves. That is appreciated by the world at large and it is wished that there could be more of that inside Pakistan.
Thank you for this article as well as for your (evident) efforts in the past to keep the spotlight on issues related to injustices to women.
1) Subjugation of the weak in general, and women in particular is a world-wide phenomenon. What happened to the lady doctor in question was terrible, of course, but unfortunately it is not an isolated event, just another manifestation of the same disease which leads to all those dowry deaths in India and the female circumcisions in Nigeria, etc. Pakistan is a special case with three parties: the army has the absolute powers of a dictatorship (which makes it absolutely arrogant, as well as corrupt), further compounded by a rooted-in-tradition feudal structure which is incapable of thinking outside the box (note the terms “pure and unsullied”, “honour”, “talk of Karo Kari”, all coming from people who are on HER SIDE, as if such terms have relevance in the twenty-first century, one would think that by now the whole world knows that rape is not a crime of sex, but that of violence), and the “all-knowing” beards (about whom the less said the better). Perhaps the media and rights organizations are hoping that this event will provide the spark which can invoke in people the courage to bring down this dictatorial, unjust set-up. However, the powers in place are well aware of that possibility and will do everything they can to prevent it. Unfortunately, the gun-powder (the outrage among the people) has been so deeply permeated through repeated abuse by those three parties, it is no more capable of lighting up. Period.
2) This really, really hurts (the idealist in me) to admit, since I so much feel for the lady doctor, but if I were a caring friend of her, my advice would be to (a) get away from that negative environment, (b) get some serious counseling to deal with the trauma, (c) pick up the pieces that you can, (d) proceed to live your interrupted life, keeping in mind that (e) life will never be the same again, but over time, your positive actions will help your injured dignity to recover. The doctor did not seek out to become a poster child for the rights groups, and if she wishes to be left alone, that wish should be respected.
3) The media has a job to do. It is doing the best it can, given the setup that exists, often at great risks for themselves. That is appreciated by the world at large and it is wished that there could be more of that inside Pakistan.
Thank you for this article as well as for your (evident) efforts in the past to keep the spotlight on issues related to injustices to women.
#17 Posted by jay on February 20, 2005 9:08:50 pm
Re: # 12
Hi Mr. Madani,
You are the most honest pakistani on the chowk. I have a few, what temporal calls as the dead horses, to beat. By branding them as dead horses, he is only trying to bypass the central tenet, the surviving and the eternal spirit, of the dead horse.
There are quite a few things the educated can do, the first being to write about the reality of pakistan, rather than trying to white wash and hide the truth. Simplest will be to honour Andus salam. If I remember correctly February 27 or something like that is the birth day of abdus salam. Why not Chowk publish an article, clearly stating that it is in memeory of the dead man.
So far chowk has never done that, there have been articles, but never has any one dared to say that it is in honour of him. For a pakistani to write an article in honour of abdus is blasphemy, it is not the fear of ISI that prevents the pakistanis from doing such a imple defying act, it is because they beleive thatpakaistan being an islamic country should not honour him, and this reviles me.
There is symbolism in the act of honouring abdus salam, and no pakistani, even on the anonymity of chowk will dare to do that. i wonder if chowk editors will allow.
Being a very honest pakistani, let both of us see how this simple idea will be responded to by pakistanis.
Hi Mr. Madani,
You are the most honest pakistani on the chowk. I have a few, what temporal calls as the dead horses, to beat. By branding them as dead horses, he is only trying to bypass the central tenet, the surviving and the eternal spirit, of the dead horse.
There are quite a few things the educated can do, the first being to write about the reality of pakistan, rather than trying to white wash and hide the truth. Simplest will be to honour Andus salam. If I remember correctly February 27 or something like that is the birth day of abdus salam. Why not Chowk publish an article, clearly stating that it is in memeory of the dead man.
So far chowk has never done that, there have been articles, but never has any one dared to say that it is in honour of him. For a pakistani to write an article in honour of abdus is blasphemy, it is not the fear of ISI that prevents the pakistanis from doing such a imple defying act, it is because they beleive thatpakaistan being an islamic country should not honour him, and this reviles me.
There is symbolism in the act of honouring abdus salam, and no pakistani, even on the anonymity of chowk will dare to do that. i wonder if chowk editors will allow.
Being a very honest pakistani, let both of us see how this simple idea will be responded to by pakistanis.
#16 Posted by satyamvada on February 20, 2005 8:37:36 pm
Jay,
Many pakistanis on this site pretend as if it was Zia that was the cause of everything
bad in Pakistan. That is not true at all....
Zia was only the product of a process that had long been started in the early 50`s.
All books from India/Indian authors were purged from Pakistani libraries
when the process of islamization had started in the 50`s, massive numbers of Hindus
were converted under threat. The demonization of India and Hindus had begun
almost immediately. Zia was just one of the first products of that process begun
in the early 50`s.
#15 Posted by ijaz_gul on February 20, 2005 8:23:52 pm
BBC reports that the DNA samples do not match any of the accused.
Balochistan rape mystery deepens
DNA samples taken from the scene of the gang rape of a doctor in the Pakistani town of Sui do not match those of the suspects, officials say.
The victim will now be asked to identify the rapists from video and audio recordings of the 13 suspects, the local police chief has said.
The rape incident sparked violence that killed eight in the country`s troubled southern province of Balochistan.
The suspects include regular and paramilitary troops.
The videos that contain photographs of all the suspects, including a captain of the Pakistan army, will be shown to the complainant immediately after the Shia mourning month of Moharram, police officials said.
Correspondents say that the alleged involvement of an army officer in the doctor`s rape in December had fuelled the unrest in Balochistan.
The doctor was working in a hospital run by Pakistan Petroleum Limited which has a huge gas plant in Sui - home to Pakistan`s largest natural gas reserves.
A military spokesman in Quetta, the provincial capital, said the captain was being held by the military authorities pending further progress in the case.
Here is also the highlights of the report given by PPL to the Parliament.
ISLAMABAD: A highly confidential internal classified report of the Pakistan Petroleum Limited (PPL) to be unfolded in a closed-door meeting today (Wednesday) could give a new twist to the rape of Dr Shazia.
The seven-page presentation to members of the National Assembly standing committee on Petroleum Ministry today, will highlight threats to the life of Dr Shazia after the rape. Sources said the word of threat has been used at least three times on different pages. The report says that it was because of these threats that she was immediately sent to Karachi and police guards posted outside her residence.
However, the secret report does not say that from which quarter the personal security of Dr Shazia was under threat after her rape. The PPL report available with The News also quotes a responsible authority as saying that 3-4 defence security guards were seen coming out of the lady doctor’s house.
The PPL has claimed that ‘law and order disturbance at Sui may not entirely be connected with Dr Shazia incident’. The PPL report contains details of the rape incident of January 2 that has triggered a violent reaction in Balochistan province. This view is shared by 17 MNAs of the National Assembly committee on Petroleum and Natural Resources, who are meeting here on Friday.
A comprehensive briefing will be given by the top management of PPL in a closed- door meeting. Petroleum Minister Amanullah Jadoon and secretary of the ministry have been asked to appear before the committee and answer questions put by the committee to be presided over by MNA Dr Noorjahan Panezai.
The PPL report defends the top management of PPL, earlier accused by police of concealing facts of the rape case and destroying the evidence from the spot.
Since eruption of the crisis in Balochistan, the PPL bosses for the first time have made an attempt to get their name clear and directly held the lady doctor responsible for delayed action against the culprits. The report has alleged that none other than Dr Shazia herself stopped the PPL administration from a prompt police action, as she continued to insist that she was robbed, not sexually assaulted.
The report has disclosed that the lady doctor herself stopped the PPL administration from getting a FIR registered against the alleged culprits as she wanted to wait for her husband who was out of the country at that time.
The Petroleum Ministry has also accused the national media of ‘blowing the issue out of proportion’ as it thought that the incident did not deserve such kind of converge at the national and international level.
According to the available copy of the classified report, the Pakistan Petroleum Limited has given details of the incident and made an attempt to replies charges levelled against its administration.
Giving details of the rape events, the official report said, the incident actually occurred on the night of January 2 and 3, when she was alone in her room. When people rushed to her place to help here , Dr Shazia said that she was only robbed of her belongings. She did not tell anyone at the spot that she was also raped by robbers.
However, the report said it was evident that Dr Shazia was traumatized and she wanted to proceed to Karachi to be with her family immediately. The report further says that Dr Shazia also desired that she did not want to lodge any FIR against anyone or lodge complaint with the local police. The PPL claimed that its staff immediately provided medication appropriate to her condition.
On January 3, SHO Sui visited the hospital and did not find her in a normal condition as she was unable to give any statement to the police. The next day, the SHO went to the residence of the lady doctor and inspected the room where the rape was reported. He also took certain evidences from the scene of the crime.
The PPL claimed that it fully facilitated the visit of SHO to the house of the lady doctor and extended full cooperation. However, the report said that on the night of January 4/5, the lady doctor was moved to Karachi and for consideration of her ‘personal security’ and treatment and enable her to be with the family.
On January 5, she was taken by her family to the residence. The PPL report said that in the judgement of the PPL management the ‘well being and security’ of lady doctor at that time was of foremost importance.
On January 7, the SHO was given the address of Dr Shazia in Karachi and assured of full cooperation. On January 7, the manager Sui wrote to police authorities and DCO Dera Bugti about the incident as learnt from Dr Shazia.
Earlier, on January 3, the district Nazim wrote to DAO with copies to senior officials alleging that PPL lady doctor was raped, asking him to investigate and take a stern action against the culprits.
The report has quoted the district Nazim as writing to authorities that 3 or 4 DSP were seem coming out of lady doctor house after allegedly raping her. The next day, a DSG officer was named as the prime accused and the PPL’s Sui office received a copy of this letter on January 5. On January 8, the management requested police authorities in Balochistan and Karachi to provide immediate security at Shazia’s residence as her security was in danger.
In her statement, Dr Shazia said, she was not in a position to give any statement, but added that she would get an FIR registered after consulting her husband, who was then out of country. On January 11 the government of Balochistan ordered a judicial enquiry. The PPL report has also lashed out at the media and police for claiming that its management was involved in hiding the case.
The report said that there was no truth in media reports and police statements alleging that PPL management had concealed evidence, and that it had not cooperated in the investigation. On the contrary, the report claimed that the above events show that the PPL management did not destroy any evidence, but on contrary provided all help to investigating officers.
Cheerios
Balochistan rape mystery deepens
DNA samples taken from the scene of the gang rape of a doctor in the Pakistani town of Sui do not match those of the suspects, officials say.
The victim will now be asked to identify the rapists from video and audio recordings of the 13 suspects, the local police chief has said.
The rape incident sparked violence that killed eight in the country`s troubled southern province of Balochistan.
The suspects include regular and paramilitary troops.
The videos that contain photographs of all the suspects, including a captain of the Pakistan army, will be shown to the complainant immediately after the Shia mourning month of Moharram, police officials said.
Correspondents say that the alleged involvement of an army officer in the doctor`s rape in December had fuelled the unrest in Balochistan.
The doctor was working in a hospital run by Pakistan Petroleum Limited which has a huge gas plant in Sui - home to Pakistan`s largest natural gas reserves.
A military spokesman in Quetta, the provincial capital, said the captain was being held by the military authorities pending further progress in the case.
Here is also the highlights of the report given by PPL to the Parliament.
ISLAMABAD: A highly confidential internal classified report of the Pakistan Petroleum Limited (PPL) to be unfolded in a closed-door meeting today (Wednesday) could give a new twist to the rape of Dr Shazia.
The seven-page presentation to members of the National Assembly standing committee on Petroleum Ministry today, will highlight threats to the life of Dr Shazia after the rape. Sources said the word of threat has been used at least three times on different pages. The report says that it was because of these threats that she was immediately sent to Karachi and police guards posted outside her residence.
However, the secret report does not say that from which quarter the personal security of Dr Shazia was under threat after her rape. The PPL report available with The News also quotes a responsible authority as saying that 3-4 defence security guards were seen coming out of the lady doctor’s house.
The PPL has claimed that ‘law and order disturbance at Sui may not entirely be connected with Dr Shazia incident’. The PPL report contains details of the rape incident of January 2 that has triggered a violent reaction in Balochistan province. This view is shared by 17 MNAs of the National Assembly committee on Petroleum and Natural Resources, who are meeting here on Friday.
A comprehensive briefing will be given by the top management of PPL in a closed- door meeting. Petroleum Minister Amanullah Jadoon and secretary of the ministry have been asked to appear before the committee and answer questions put by the committee to be presided over by MNA Dr Noorjahan Panezai.
The PPL report defends the top management of PPL, earlier accused by police of concealing facts of the rape case and destroying the evidence from the spot.
Since eruption of the crisis in Balochistan, the PPL bosses for the first time have made an attempt to get their name clear and directly held the lady doctor responsible for delayed action against the culprits. The report has alleged that none other than Dr Shazia herself stopped the PPL administration from a prompt police action, as she continued to insist that she was robbed, not sexually assaulted.
The report has disclosed that the lady doctor herself stopped the PPL administration from getting a FIR registered against the alleged culprits as she wanted to wait for her husband who was out of the country at that time.
The Petroleum Ministry has also accused the national media of ‘blowing the issue out of proportion’ as it thought that the incident did not deserve such kind of converge at the national and international level.
According to the available copy of the classified report, the Pakistan Petroleum Limited has given details of the incident and made an attempt to replies charges levelled against its administration.
Giving details of the rape events, the official report said, the incident actually occurred on the night of January 2 and 3, when she was alone in her room. When people rushed to her place to help here , Dr Shazia said that she was only robbed of her belongings. She did not tell anyone at the spot that she was also raped by robbers.
However, the report said it was evident that Dr Shazia was traumatized and she wanted to proceed to Karachi to be with her family immediately. The report further says that Dr Shazia also desired that she did not want to lodge any FIR against anyone or lodge complaint with the local police. The PPL claimed that its staff immediately provided medication appropriate to her condition.
On January 3, SHO Sui visited the hospital and did not find her in a normal condition as she was unable to give any statement to the police. The next day, the SHO went to the residence of the lady doctor and inspected the room where the rape was reported. He also took certain evidences from the scene of the crime.
The PPL claimed that it fully facilitated the visit of SHO to the house of the lady doctor and extended full cooperation. However, the report said that on the night of January 4/5, the lady doctor was moved to Karachi and for consideration of her ‘personal security’ and treatment and enable her to be with the family.
On January 5, she was taken by her family to the residence. The PPL report said that in the judgement of the PPL management the ‘well being and security’ of lady doctor at that time was of foremost importance.
On January 7, the SHO was given the address of Dr Shazia in Karachi and assured of full cooperation. On January 7, the manager Sui wrote to police authorities and DCO Dera Bugti about the incident as learnt from Dr Shazia.
Earlier, on January 3, the district Nazim wrote to DAO with copies to senior officials alleging that PPL lady doctor was raped, asking him to investigate and take a stern action against the culprits.
The report has quoted the district Nazim as writing to authorities that 3 or 4 DSP were seem coming out of lady doctor house after allegedly raping her. The next day, a DSG officer was named as the prime accused and the PPL’s Sui office received a copy of this letter on January 5. On January 8, the management requested police authorities in Balochistan and Karachi to provide immediate security at Shazia’s residence as her security was in danger.
In her statement, Dr Shazia said, she was not in a position to give any statement, but added that she would get an FIR registered after consulting her husband, who was then out of country. On January 11 the government of Balochistan ordered a judicial enquiry. The PPL report has also lashed out at the media and police for claiming that its management was involved in hiding the case.
The report said that there was no truth in media reports and police statements alleging that PPL management had concealed evidence, and that it had not cooperated in the investigation. On the contrary, the report claimed that the above events show that the PPL management did not destroy any evidence, but on contrary provided all help to investigating officers.
Cheerios
#14 Posted by temporal on February 20, 2005 7:37:15 pm
jay thackeray # 11:
disagree when you say The point is that this article tries to portray the rape as an exception with out touching up on the legal system that supports it.
when you stop flogging your single issue dead horse...which everyone but you seemingly knows is dead...you will realise that this is not the only column or article by the versatile ms. sarwar...she has written and extensivley covered the shariah courts, hudood ordinance, its recent amendments and other related issues...
...pls. google before you jump on your high horse and start flogging a dead one...
rgs
t
disagree when you say The point is that this article tries to portray the rape as an exception with out touching up on the legal system that supports it.
when you stop flogging your single issue dead horse...which everyone but you seemingly knows is dead...you will realise that this is not the only column or article by the versatile ms. sarwar...she has written and extensivley covered the shariah courts, hudood ordinance, its recent amendments and other related issues...
...pls. google before you jump on your high horse and start flogging a dead one...
rgs
t
#13 Posted by cipram on February 20, 2005 6:43:02 pm
Beena ,
Thanxs for high light the issue.
it`s so horrifying every other day we read about gang rape.
Dr shazia `s case kept me wide awake so many nights.
i think women should start country wide campaign against it.
and that need awareness first.
Thanxs for high light the issue.
it`s so horrifying every other day we read about gang rape.
Dr shazia `s case kept me wide awake so many nights.
i think women should start country wide campaign against it.
and that need awareness first.
#12 Posted by ahmedmadani on February 20, 2005 6:30:26 pm
Re: # 2 Mr.Jay what you consistently write is very agreeable but you need to tone down , do not condescend about these problems. Problems are real and solutions are not ready made or easy. I have travelled lot in Sindh before I became sick due to mental depression. Once I met a nice educated but unemployed Sindhi native who was from landless labour class working for his feudal master in Thatta area. I employed him for short time in loading and unloading boxes. We had a lunch and we chatted about things. I remarked these fudal landlords have been burden said casually. He told me he differs and I was astonished. He said Madani Sahib you do not understand , he may be brute and fudal etc but he will protect women and their honor from hooligans. He told me without them women ( mostly uneducated, dirt poor and helpless) will have no saviour.
Things are more worst than Ms. Beena described. When the fudal lords are finished hope there is some protective sytem developed.
A Kufr Hindu writer Premchand wrote 70 years ago `` woman your life`s story- breast full of milk and eyes full of tears`` is still true in Rural parts of country.
The things will change slowly. The things will change in evolution than revolution. The military is stability and wrong to expect revolutionary changes by coup. The political or social cliamte does not exist as no true leftist or even infantile leftist mass movements attained any critical mass any time in last 57 years. Indian leftist movements always existed even predating advent of Mr. Gandhiji. Leftist movements in India prepared the evolutonary change dating with rise of communist parties. They helped to develop a egaleterian atmosphere for ideas of socialism, women liberation and abhoring medival ideas about women. This leftist movements have enabled evolutionary change in India peacefully and lower caste people have become ruling leaders. The change is both vertical and horizontal in circulation with out blood shed. The egaletarian ideas are accepted by all parties though them may not follow them in spirit and letters.
Your criticism of educated people is not right. What they can do ? Where is leadership in this matters, you can not expect middle class to do revolutionary things as they have to support families. You need poor who want to get liberated and are galvanised. That condition does not exist. I read some time back a book ( after my maternal uncle died went through his books as final ritual. There was a book on Indian left. he was commie as they say, hopeless romantic and devoted life to skeletol left movement in Karachi). The leadership is given by example. Indian left leadership was par excellence. Mr. Dange (deciple of tilak) a brahmin ?) was imprisoned more than Mr. Gandhi by british govt., Mr. Nabodopod ( some thing like that) a high class brahmin devoted all life to that movement ( its touching the last departure of his mother), Ajay Ghosh, Mazzafur Ahmed, S.M Joshi, Ramachandra Lohia a Jain a socialist, small local leaders like Hari Krismna Konar,P C Joshi, they have given story of almost 25 leaders. Everybody has paid dues being in british prison and served the people. History and character has earned respect for left ethos. Pakistan has missed ethos of liberation generated by over all sympathy for leftist ideas.
I wish you and readers good 2005.
Things are more worst than Ms. Beena described. When the fudal lords are finished hope there is some protective sytem developed.
A Kufr Hindu writer Premchand wrote 70 years ago `` woman your life`s story- breast full of milk and eyes full of tears`` is still true in Rural parts of country.
The things will change slowly. The things will change in evolution than revolution. The military is stability and wrong to expect revolutionary changes by coup. The political or social cliamte does not exist as no true leftist or even infantile leftist mass movements attained any critical mass any time in last 57 years. Indian leftist movements always existed even predating advent of Mr. Gandhiji. Leftist movements in India prepared the evolutonary change dating with rise of communist parties. They helped to develop a egaleterian atmosphere for ideas of socialism, women liberation and abhoring medival ideas about women. This leftist movements have enabled evolutionary change in India peacefully and lower caste people have become ruling leaders. The change is both vertical and horizontal in circulation with out blood shed. The egaletarian ideas are accepted by all parties though them may not follow them in spirit and letters.
Your criticism of educated people is not right. What they can do ? Where is leadership in this matters, you can not expect middle class to do revolutionary things as they have to support families. You need poor who want to get liberated and are galvanised. That condition does not exist. I read some time back a book ( after my maternal uncle died went through his books as final ritual. There was a book on Indian left. he was commie as they say, hopeless romantic and devoted life to skeletol left movement in Karachi). The leadership is given by example. Indian left leadership was par excellence. Mr. Dange (deciple of tilak) a brahmin ?) was imprisoned more than Mr. Gandhi by british govt., Mr. Nabodopod ( some thing like that) a high class brahmin devoted all life to that movement ( its touching the last departure of his mother), Ajay Ghosh, Mazzafur Ahmed, S.M Joshi, Ramachandra Lohia a Jain a socialist, small local leaders like Hari Krismna Konar,P C Joshi, they have given story of almost 25 leaders. Everybody has paid dues being in british prison and served the people. History and character has earned respect for left ethos. Pakistan has missed ethos of liberation generated by over all sympathy for leftist ideas.
I wish you and readers good 2005.
#11 Posted by jay on February 20, 2005 6:23:25 pm
Re: # 5
The point is that this article tries to portray the rape as an exception with out touching up on the legal system that supports it.
Post #7
This is another clasic example of blaing Zia. The highest court in pakistan is the sharia court, and it can strike down the hoodood. They will not simply because it is consistant with islam. Then we have this so called islamic scholars on chowk, telling that hoodood is against islam. Stop this pretensions, accept the reality, at least the views of the learned sharia court of pakistan.
Do not forget, they took up the issue of interest rates in pakistan. So sharia court is not a dead institution, it did take up the charging of interst which has reamined for so long, a lot longer than any Zia rules. Hence the fact is that the hoodood has the approval of the sharia courts, and it is time that the pakistanis accept the at least the rule of law in the case of islamic laws.
The point is that this article tries to portray the rape as an exception with out touching up on the legal system that supports it.
Post #7
This is another clasic example of blaing Zia. The highest court in pakistan is the sharia court, and it can strike down the hoodood. They will not simply because it is consistant with islam. Then we have this so called islamic scholars on chowk, telling that hoodood is against islam. Stop this pretensions, accept the reality, at least the views of the learned sharia court of pakistan.
Do not forget, they took up the issue of interest rates in pakistan. So sharia court is not a dead institution, it did take up the charging of interst which has reamined for so long, a lot longer than any Zia rules. Hence the fact is that the hoodood has the approval of the sharia courts, and it is time that the pakistanis accept the at least the rule of law in the case of islamic laws.
#10 Posted by temporal on February 20, 2005 5:46:36 pm
digression:
in the last 35 or so articles here by my count there have been at least six articles that discuss islam or this rape directly or indirectly…and those abdul hates who hesitate not to discuss the glories of their twisted version of islam and who inundate chowk with cut n pastes of conversions and how glorious their religion is are absent from these threads…their absence and silence thunders…their hollowness evident for all to see…astagfirallah!
in the last 35 or so articles here by my count there have been at least six articles that discuss islam or this rape directly or indirectly…and those abdul hates who hesitate not to discuss the glories of their twisted version of islam and who inundate chowk with cut n pastes of conversions and how glorious their religion is are absent from these threads…their absence and silence thunders…their hollowness evident for all to see…astagfirallah!
#9 Posted by Jane on February 20, 2005 5:43:24 pm
This story exemplifies why Western perceptions exist of Pakistan that paint it as a dark and evil culture.
I recently traveled to Pakistan`s neighbor, India, and admittedly, before I left the US, I was very wary of the men in India. I had read so much about Indian women being burnt with acid or young brides being murdered for dowry. I took pains to pack utterly conservative clothing in order to prevent any unwanted advances from men and to ensure I wasn`t sending the wrong message with my attire.
What I realized after spending over a month in India, was that these dark, disturbing stories of mistreated women while they are true, they aren`t as widespread as the media would lead readers in the West to believe. In fact, I quickly became comfortable there and realized that the good people vastly outnumbered the bad people.
The bottom line is that all countries -whether they are in North America, Europe, the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, or India- must overcome political corruption so that when crimes occur, proper investigations can be carried out and criminals can and will be prosecuted.
There has to be REAL deterrents to heinous crimes such as Dr. Shazia`s heartbreaking case by exacting appropriate punishment to offenders.
There has to be a system in place to ensure that justice cannot be avoided by any means.
I recently traveled to Pakistan`s neighbor, India, and admittedly, before I left the US, I was very wary of the men in India. I had read so much about Indian women being burnt with acid or young brides being murdered for dowry. I took pains to pack utterly conservative clothing in order to prevent any unwanted advances from men and to ensure I wasn`t sending the wrong message with my attire.
What I realized after spending over a month in India, was that these dark, disturbing stories of mistreated women while they are true, they aren`t as widespread as the media would lead readers in the West to believe. In fact, I quickly became comfortable there and realized that the good people vastly outnumbered the bad people.
The bottom line is that all countries -whether they are in North America, Europe, the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, or India- must overcome political corruption so that when crimes occur, proper investigations can be carried out and criminals can and will be prosecuted.
There has to be REAL deterrents to heinous crimes such as Dr. Shazia`s heartbreaking case by exacting appropriate punishment to offenders.
There has to be a system in place to ensure that justice cannot be avoided by any means.
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