Emma Nisa March 4, 2005
#97 Posted by Saminasha on March 6, 2005 11:37:19 am
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#98 Posted by Saminasha on March 6, 2005 11:38:47 am
Umer,
You write:
``The fact is this: we all have this desire to be psychologists but the vast majority of us cannot go beyond our own experiences. Therefore, the advice we dispence with is one which we have experienced ourselves. So by posing this question and seeking `help` one get`s to know more about the historical/social makeup of the advice dispenser. ``
Duh.
But what does that say about the writer?
:)
You write:
``The fact is this: we all have this desire to be psychologists but the vast majority of us cannot go beyond our own experiences. Therefore, the advice we dispence with is one which we have experienced ourselves. So by posing this question and seeking `help` one get`s to know more about the historical/social makeup of the advice dispenser. ``
Duh.
But what does that say about the writer?
:)
#100 Posted by Soulat on March 6, 2005 11:47:46 am
Don`t steal my brainchild. I will have Emma patented.
Nisa is my daughter`s name and I can post her birth certificate. You are a pretender Umer!
Emma = M&M
#101 Posted by UmerMurtaza on March 6, 2005 11:53:00 am
Okay okay,
Soulat, You`re obviously disturbed by what I have done. And I hate disturbing people so I`ll end this prank now.
People, Soulat`s the `real` author behind this. I am, indeed, a fake.
Now please carry on with your advice and inputs.
Umer M.
Soulat, You`re obviously disturbed by what I have done. And I hate disturbing people so I`ll end this prank now.
People, Soulat`s the `real` author behind this. I am, indeed, a fake.
Now please carry on with your advice and inputs.
Umer M.
#102 Posted by Saminasha on March 6, 2005 11:54:06 am
Umer,
Please explain your claim that all answers reflect experiential knowledge and not the inclusion of common sense and daily doses of Oprah and Dr. Phil?
Please explain your claim that all answers reflect experiential knowledge and not the inclusion of common sense and daily doses of Oprah and Dr. Phil?
#103 Posted by UmerMurtaza on March 6, 2005 11:54:31 am
Emma,
I`m sorry if you were offended. It was intended to be a joke.
Umer M.
I`m sorry if you were offended. It was intended to be a joke.
Umer M.
#104 Posted by UmerMurtaza on March 6, 2005 11:58:40 am
Samina,
The answer is to be found within the treasure chest that is the unplugged.
Umer M
The answer is to be found within the treasure chest that is the unplugged.
Umer M
#105 Posted by hamzan on March 6, 2005 5:03:56 pm
If all of the tens of millions of Syeds, Pirzadas et al swarming around: so-called descendants of Prophet Mohammad in South Asia are indeed His family members than He must have had some super extraordinary reproductive family members.
This exponential lineage expansion must be one of the socio-biological wonders still to be deciphered. The riddle becomes even more grotesque by taking into account that Prophet Mohammad had no male heir.
Even if one does accept some indirect linkage, some weird genomic connection how come all of those had settled in Indo-Pak subcontinent?
And if one does accept the classifications given by South Asian Syeds than the next question should be: are we not all descended through the same Adam and Even and does this fact not make all of us Syed?
Donald Trump in his autobiography “Trump: The Art of the deal” writes about “Lucky Sperm Club” = those who just happen to be born in the right mileu by the virtue of their parents. Syeds, assuming them correct in their description, by that definition have taken this club into absurdum.
So Emma Bibi, what’s so special to be [fake] syed while claiming to be “sophisticated”, if I may ask?
Thanks
This exponential lineage expansion must be one of the socio-biological wonders still to be deciphered. The riddle becomes even more grotesque by taking into account that Prophet Mohammad had no male heir.
Even if one does accept some indirect linkage, some weird genomic connection how come all of those had settled in Indo-Pak subcontinent?
And if one does accept the classifications given by South Asian Syeds than the next question should be: are we not all descended through the same Adam and Even and does this fact not make all of us Syed?
Donald Trump in his autobiography “Trump: The Art of the deal” writes about “Lucky Sperm Club” = those who just happen to be born in the right mileu by the virtue of their parents. Syeds, assuming them correct in their description, by that definition have taken this club into absurdum.
So Emma Bibi, what’s so special to be [fake] syed while claiming to be “sophisticated”, if I may ask?
Thanks
#106 Posted by ZahraJ on March 6, 2005 5:09:55 pm
Hamidm:
Please do not add fuel to the fire by providing dysfunctional links. That`s very impolite.
Please do not add fuel to the fire by providing dysfunctional links. That`s very impolite.
#107 Posted by jay on March 6, 2005 6:14:07 pm
This article and the responses from pakistanis have set the high standard for pakistani pretenses. In the land of tripple talak here is the talk of a man asking his wife to divorce him. The law graduate from USA practicing in pakistan, that is the limit, is there any kind of relevance in any area for US laws in pakistan. A few eeks ago there was a news item, students from achison college raped the 18 year old wife of an 50 year old teacher at atchison college. Then the talk of a 27 year old pakistani globe trotting the post 9/11 world.
How stupid of the pak interactors not to mention the hoodood. The level of sofistry if beyond contempt.
How stupid of the pak interactors not to mention the hoodood. The level of sofistry if beyond contempt.
#109 Posted by Emz on March 7, 2005 2:03:09 am
Hello.
I am Emma, I dont think i need to produce my Birth Ceritificate , if anyone in doubt let me know i will fax it to you.
Im sorry i could not reply to any of the interacts because i was unaware the article had been published, and as weekends for me, mean to sit at home and cry about the mess...i missed out on a helluva lot.
Well thank you all for erm ..giving me your views on the whole situation.
Believe me this is not funny a fictional story, it is about my life even chowk staff sent me a mail saying...are you really that naive???
Why did i put it on the web you ask...its called Desperate measures guys. Anything which would make me see light...or learn from other experiences. Believe me if real life when you tell someone your tragedy..most people get a kick out of it..and have all sorts to say..or just go around spreading it..like its about Bradd Pitt & Jennifer Anistons break up. Ive learnt from experience...its not sympathy you get..just calls asking you so was there at a family wedding?..did he talk to you..its like a Soap episode..where everyone is waiting for me to turn around and slap a guest saying you Bi%``* i know your pregnant with my hubby`s child...*Scream *HOW could you to this to me then run out.
Trust me people have said on my face..so when are the fireworks gonna go start..??
Anyway thats my reason for publishing the article.
So i did expect reactions like this..as for my being stubborn..and snotty all i have to say is maybe i was so...before i got married..so he knew my personality but that is not a very strong trait..it is certainly not teh case NOW....i CHANGED...ok..maybe once he left ...i do not look down on his family..believe me i do respect his Parents iv never looked down on them..but all i was saying was they still blame me...They will not once admit to me there son is doing anything wrong it kind of makes them feel insecure if they side with me..which is all i need.
As for his side of the story i have had many people speak to him who came back with this answer that..he just DOESNT want to live with me...he just thinks we are too different..no he doesnt have any other story..thats why i find it so hard...
Does he have another woman YES. but he is so secretive..i just dont have any proof..
As for my brother that was his initial reaction...now he asking me to come back , Jawad is not worth it. Bhabi knows the whole situation now, her and Bhai will not be separating or anything silly like that,she will not suffer..even she has spoken to Jawad. He has now decided to think about it.He has asked me to leave work, sell my car and disconnect my mobile...he thought i would not agree to his demands..but i HAVE..after this he will think whether it can work or not.
Talk about physical abuse...not his style..its the mind, heart and soul he wants to damage.
This is not a Dear Abby story..this is just someone pouring out their heart to chowkies, just because she knows other people may have been in the same situation just like ana and HP have mentioned. I would like to know how to deal with it from others point of view.
Trust me this was an honest question whether i am insane to stick around.
I have left work now am at home, Jawad will be coming home on the weekend..lets see how it goes...
Thank you for your responses. Sorry i could not interact earlier.
I am Emma, I dont think i need to produce my Birth Ceritificate , if anyone in doubt let me know i will fax it to you.
Im sorry i could not reply to any of the interacts because i was unaware the article had been published, and as weekends for me, mean to sit at home and cry about the mess...i missed out on a helluva lot.
Well thank you all for erm ..giving me your views on the whole situation.
Believe me this is not funny a fictional story, it is about my life even chowk staff sent me a mail saying...are you really that naive???
Why did i put it on the web you ask...its called Desperate measures guys. Anything which would make me see light...or learn from other experiences. Believe me if real life when you tell someone your tragedy..most people get a kick out of it..and have all sorts to say..or just go around spreading it..like its about Bradd Pitt & Jennifer Anistons break up. Ive learnt from experience...its not sympathy you get..just calls asking you so was there at a family wedding?..did he talk to you..its like a Soap episode..where everyone is waiting for me to turn around and slap a guest saying you Bi%``* i know your pregnant with my hubby`s child...*Scream *HOW could you to this to me then run out.
Trust me people have said on my face..so when are the fireworks gonna go start..??
Anyway thats my reason for publishing the article.
So i did expect reactions like this..as for my being stubborn..and snotty all i have to say is maybe i was so...before i got married..so he knew my personality but that is not a very strong trait..it is certainly not teh case NOW....i CHANGED...ok..maybe once he left ...i do not look down on his family..believe me i do respect his Parents iv never looked down on them..but all i was saying was they still blame me...They will not once admit to me there son is doing anything wrong it kind of makes them feel insecure if they side with me..which is all i need.
As for his side of the story i have had many people speak to him who came back with this answer that..he just DOESNT want to live with me...he just thinks we are too different..no he doesnt have any other story..thats why i find it so hard...
Does he have another woman YES. but he is so secretive..i just dont have any proof..
As for my brother that was his initial reaction...now he asking me to come back , Jawad is not worth it. Bhabi knows the whole situation now, her and Bhai will not be separating or anything silly like that,she will not suffer..even she has spoken to Jawad. He has now decided to think about it.He has asked me to leave work, sell my car and disconnect my mobile...he thought i would not agree to his demands..but i HAVE..after this he will think whether it can work or not.
Talk about physical abuse...not his style..its the mind, heart and soul he wants to damage.
This is not a Dear Abby story..this is just someone pouring out their heart to chowkies, just because she knows other people may have been in the same situation just like ana and HP have mentioned. I would like to know how to deal with it from others point of view.
Trust me this was an honest question whether i am insane to stick around.
I have left work now am at home, Jawad will be coming home on the weekend..lets see how it goes...
Thank you for your responses. Sorry i could not interact earlier.
#110 Posted by Dash_Dot on March 7, 2005 3:03:53 am
``Like most Pakistani men, Jawad is a very liberal guy when it comes to himself. He drinks, takes his occasional weed, eyes up gals.I discover these traits after our marriage. ``
The above is the most revealing set of lines in the whole article...indeed they should have been the preamble to this artcile......
The above is the most revealing set of lines in the whole article...indeed they should have been the preamble to this artcile......
#111 Posted by mubakr on March 7, 2005 3:32:15 am
EMMA:
you are a brave sould with a kind heart.
you did the right thing by writing it up on chowk. at times when there`s no way forward in a tunnel of one`s pesonal life, sharing provides the spark to keep moving ahead. and i tell you what, if he doesnt wish to live with you; you shouldnt either. life means more. more of every thing and yes, there still will be life after or without him which will offer you more disappointments, accomplishments, sanity and insanity...just about everything!
and this final line`s for you:
``Freedome lies outside of the fence we build for ourselves``
good luck and you shouldnt fail!
you are a brave sould with a kind heart.
you did the right thing by writing it up on chowk. at times when there`s no way forward in a tunnel of one`s pesonal life, sharing provides the spark to keep moving ahead. and i tell you what, if he doesnt wish to live with you; you shouldnt either. life means more. more of every thing and yes, there still will be life after or without him which will offer you more disappointments, accomplishments, sanity and insanity...just about everything!
and this final line`s for you:
``Freedome lies outside of the fence we build for ourselves``
good luck and you shouldnt fail!
#112 Posted by nb on March 7, 2005 4:49:07 am
Good luck, Emma. it looks like things will work out for you.
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