Yasser Latif Hamdani March 19, 2005
#570 Posted by MantoLives on April 25, 2006 5:21:43 am
Harish mian...
Jinnah replaced Suhrawardy.
Your DAD lies have been exposed elsewhere.
#569 Posted by harish_hyd on April 4, 2005 9:59:11 pm
#568 by haroonellahi
[They have only agreed to move forward. The direction was intially laid down by the founding fathers, and the rise of Hindu fantacism, fundementalism, and extremism is manifesting in many different forms. The most common place where it is showing one of it`s many manifestations is in Indian Hindu nationalism.]
The only difference between India and Pakistan is that in India, no divisive ideology can succeed because the body polity is overwhelmingly secular and not interested in making religion the cornerstone of life, as the BJP discovered to its horror, whereas in Pakistan, the majority of the so-called moderates is easily intimidated and prefers to remain silent when the religious fringe tries to impose its vision on all Pakistan.
[They have only agreed to move forward. The direction was intially laid down by the founding fathers, and the rise of Hindu fantacism, fundementalism, and extremism is manifesting in many different forms. The most common place where it is showing one of it`s many manifestations is in Indian Hindu nationalism.]
The only difference between India and Pakistan is that in India, no divisive ideology can succeed because the body polity is overwhelmingly secular and not interested in making religion the cornerstone of life, as the BJP discovered to its horror, whereas in Pakistan, the majority of the so-called moderates is easily intimidated and prefers to remain silent when the religious fringe tries to impose its vision on all Pakistan.
#568 Posted by HaroonEllahi on April 2, 2005 3:50:04 pm
The issue of moving forward however has been accepted by the Hindus. The gravity emitted from all the schools of thought are fundementally different in their approach for Hindustan.
Shiv Sena and Congress agree? The leftist `hindus` agree?
They have only agreed to move forward. The direction was intially laid down by the founding fathers, and the rise of Hindu fantacism, fundementalism, and extremism is manifesting in many different forms. The most common place where it is showing one of it`s many manifestations is in Indian Hindu nationalism.
Every one knows what I`m talking about.
You can not deny this.
:)
Shiv Sena and Congress agree? The leftist `hindus` agree?
They have only agreed to move forward. The direction was intially laid down by the founding fathers, and the rise of Hindu fantacism, fundementalism, and extremism is manifesting in many different forms. The most common place where it is showing one of it`s many manifestations is in Indian Hindu nationalism.
Every one knows what I`m talking about.
You can not deny this.
:)
#567 Posted by HaroonEllahi on April 2, 2005 3:45:40 pm
The issue of modernity is one settled amongst the Hindus?
I feel that is absolutely incorrect.
The Shiv Sena, BJP, RSS, and the Sangh Parivar at large disagree with the concept of modern India completely.
Yeah, I`m sure it settled. Baal Thackerey supporters go running around burning shops and throwing stones at `KFC` on Valentines Day.
The issue of modernity is NOT settled amongst the Hindus.
I feel that is absolutely incorrect.
The Shiv Sena, BJP, RSS, and the Sangh Parivar at large disagree with the concept of modern India completely.
Yeah, I`m sure it settled. Baal Thackerey supporters go running around burning shops and throwing stones at `KFC` on Valentines Day.
The issue of modernity is NOT settled amongst the Hindus.
#566 Posted by harish_hyd on March 31, 2005 9:57:26 pm
#563 by Mantolives
[Mohar11 was singing praises of Gandhi... I brought him down to earth and reality.]
How? By claiming Jinnah was better than Gandhi?
[I congratulate you on spelling the name of Nazi propagandists right... atleast you know your heritage.]
I still see you running away from answering my question. This board has been on for quite some time now..you still don`t have an answer as to what Jinnah did to stop the violence? In response to Chauri Chaura, Gandhi stopped his non-cooperation movement immediately, took responsibility for whatever happened and said he was ready to face any punishment. In contrast, Jinnah, didn`t so much as squeak in almost a week during which the violence raged.
Did he want the violence to go on so the Muslim League could showcase its might and put the fear of god into the Hindus and British?
Yes, Jinnah was better than Gandhi....at opportunism of the worst kind.
[Mohar11 was singing praises of Gandhi... I brought him down to earth and reality.]
How? By claiming Jinnah was better than Gandhi?
[I congratulate you on spelling the name of Nazi propagandists right... atleast you know your heritage.]
I still see you running away from answering my question. This board has been on for quite some time now..you still don`t have an answer as to what Jinnah did to stop the violence? In response to Chauri Chaura, Gandhi stopped his non-cooperation movement immediately, took responsibility for whatever happened and said he was ready to face any punishment. In contrast, Jinnah, didn`t so much as squeak in almost a week during which the violence raged.
Did he want the violence to go on so the Muslim League could showcase its might and put the fear of god into the Hindus and British?
Yes, Jinnah was better than Gandhi....at opportunism of the worst kind.
#565 Posted by harish_hyd on March 31, 2005 9:56:41 pm
#562 by Mantolives
[The world knows Michael Jackson as well....]
Does that mean Jinnah was worse than Michael Jackson?
[The world knows Michael Jackson as well....]
Does that mean Jinnah was worse than Michael Jackson?
#564 Posted by MantoLives on March 31, 2005 6:58:40 am
Re: # 559
.... if Gandhi = Hinduism then sure I hate Hinduism, but ofcourse I don`t think there is a correlation.
.... if Gandhi = Hinduism then sure I hate Hinduism, but ofcourse I don`t think there is a correlation.
#563 Posted by MantoLives on March 31, 2005 6:57:20 am
Re: # 560
You clearly have the train of events down wrong. Nothing on this board was really about Jinnah. Mohar11 was singing praises of Gandhi... I brought him down to earth and reality.
Your claims about Jinnah were ridiculuous and I responded to them, but now you are just being repetitive... why must you impose your views? You think he was an opportunist thug... fine continue to think so... but why should I agree with you ?
I congratulate you on spelling the name of Nazi propagandists right... atleast you know your heritage.
You clearly have the train of events down wrong. Nothing on this board was really about Jinnah. Mohar11 was singing praises of Gandhi... I brought him down to earth and reality.
Your claims about Jinnah were ridiculuous and I responded to them, but now you are just being repetitive... why must you impose your views? You think he was an opportunist thug... fine continue to think so... but why should I agree with you ?
I congratulate you on spelling the name of Nazi propagandists right... atleast you know your heritage.
#562 Posted by MantoLives on March 31, 2005 6:53:40 am
Re: # 561
The world knows Michael Jackson as well....
The world knows Michael Jackson as well....
#561 Posted by harish_hyd on March 28, 2005 8:23:50 pm
#556 by Mantolives
[So.... Gandhi needs corporate patronization...
But ofcourse... that is the only way a racist can be turned into a Mahatma... Good god... Goebells will be proud of you.]
Only someone as fixated on personalities as you can come up with such a conclusion. Gandhi is revered the world over for his contribution to what is a unique struggle, the likes of which had never been seen before. No one, except you, remembers him for his racism. In contrast, who knows Jinnah?
You guys tried to immortalize Jinnah in a tit-for-tat response to Sir Richard Attenbororugh’s ‘Gandhi’, but we all know what happened. No one, not even Pakis, remember that movie. Like I said before, a pig is a pig, all the lipstick in the world notwithstanding.
And yeah, it is Goebbels, not Goebells.
[So.... Gandhi needs corporate patronization...
But ofcourse... that is the only way a racist can be turned into a Mahatma... Good god... Goebells will be proud of you.]
Only someone as fixated on personalities as you can come up with such a conclusion. Gandhi is revered the world over for his contribution to what is a unique struggle, the likes of which had never been seen before. No one, except you, remembers him for his racism. In contrast, who knows Jinnah?
You guys tried to immortalize Jinnah in a tit-for-tat response to Sir Richard Attenbororugh’s ‘Gandhi’, but we all know what happened. No one, not even Pakis, remember that movie. Like I said before, a pig is a pig, all the lipstick in the world notwithstanding.
And yeah, it is Goebbels, not Goebells.
#560 Posted by harish_hyd on March 28, 2005 8:22:38 pm
#554 by Mantolives
[As pointed out earlier... I have answered the question as I saw fit.]
No you didn’t. You only produced the statement Jinnah issued before the DAD began, which I promptly acknowledged. You never provided any statements from him during the DAD violence, which lasted for about a week. Jinnah should have done that if he were really concerned about the violence, since it was a foregone conclusion that there would be riots specially when speaker after speaker from the Muslim League was issuing threatening statements.
[I also respect your right to hold onto whatever opinion you have as you please... why must you try and impose those views on me?]
No you don’t. If that were really the case, you wouldn’t have waited till now. When I said I believed Jinnah was an opportunist thug, you immediately latched on Gandhi’s racism, and tried to make Jinnah look better than him. This is hardly a sign of respect for a person’s opinions.
[Learn to be honest with yourself. Forget what I think.]
I suggest you follow this advice seriously.
[As pointed out earlier... I have answered the question as I saw fit.]
No you didn’t. You only produced the statement Jinnah issued before the DAD began, which I promptly acknowledged. You never provided any statements from him during the DAD violence, which lasted for about a week. Jinnah should have done that if he were really concerned about the violence, since it was a foregone conclusion that there would be riots specially when speaker after speaker from the Muslim League was issuing threatening statements.
[I also respect your right to hold onto whatever opinion you have as you please... why must you try and impose those views on me?]
No you don’t. If that were really the case, you wouldn’t have waited till now. When I said I believed Jinnah was an opportunist thug, you immediately latched on Gandhi’s racism, and tried to make Jinnah look better than him. This is hardly a sign of respect for a person’s opinions.
[Learn to be honest with yourself. Forget what I think.]
I suggest you follow this advice seriously.
#559 Posted by friend on March 28, 2005 9:11:24 am
Yasser,
I think you have gone mad due to your hatred of Gandhi and hindus...
I think you have gone mad due to your hatred of Gandhi and hindus...
#558 Posted by MantoLives on March 28, 2005 8:30:43 am
And this white revolution website is urging its followers to Think like Gandhi
http://whiterevolution.com/
in a bizarre twist on my story.
http://whiterevolution.com/
in a bizarre twist on my story.
#557 Posted by MantoLives on March 28, 2005 8:23:39 am
Congrats friend...
This is another group that is now quoting Gandhi as one of its heroes..
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=161852&highlight=Gandhi
This is another group that is now quoting Gandhi as one of its heroes..
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=161852&highlight=Gandhi
#556 Posted by MantoLives on March 28, 2005 8:11:15 am
Re: # 553
So.... Gandhi needs corporate patronization...
But ofcourse... that is the only way a racist can be turned into a Mahatma... Good god... Goebells will be proud of you.
So.... Gandhi needs corporate patronization...
But ofcourse... that is the only way a racist can be turned into a Mahatma... Good god... Goebells will be proud of you.
#555 Posted by MantoLives on March 28, 2005 8:09:57 am
Re: # 552
Do you even know who these writers are?
Do you even know who these writers are?
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