Gabriel’s Bike

ah nfp
without being too cocky: write `the` fucking book

you re wasting it on music articles that only fuel the formulaic bubble gum crap the industry is dishing out already.this is what i d rather do if i were you

Ah ``NFP``, my teenage hero. This was good. Won`t get into the many messages and cryptic matter you have laced this story with, but enjoyed it very much. More like this.

Well keeping telling that dog to keep whispering :)

Okay..another thing, your story ``The facade`` fro Psychemanica and ``God couple``
from Graffiti Christ:II seems to be linked to this one. Is that so....?

And another thing about your grandfather paradox university hint, waas master ching-fu wanting to send mukhtar back to kill the prophet...

Correct Aquarius. Blame the voices in my head for this heresy. And my neighbor’s dog.
The bugger barks in whispers. Say`s he`s Asimov.


rgds,
NfP

Hmmmmmm...

I wonder......!!!

this one has gone beyond Issac Asimov human-machine trilogy....

I still wonder.... NFP ....you really wrote this ? ....or you were inspired by some one`s else ....to write this.......
This is not your style..........!!!

Hmmmmmm...

I wonder......!!!

this one has gone beyond Issac Asimov human-machine trilogy....

I still wonder.... NFP ....you really wrote this ? ....or you were inspired by some one`s else ....to write this.......
This is not your style..........!!!

I think it about Satan`s triumph over God through science

Escaping from divinity of Religions it was a hypothetical trek with time.

This enlightened definition disperses the myths as a believer:

“No objects have an intrinsic characteristic of truth. Therefore everything that we perceive to be true can only be mere individual or social constructions, or the meanings that we attach to them. Therefore the world is a social construct with no objective truth.
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But for this to be true, the doctrine itself would have to be false. Therefore the doctrine is claiming simultaneously that there is no truth, while at the same time that it, itself, is true. How’s this for a belief?”

This is a very ironic contradiction of logic.

However the using of 786 is strange to bring numerology of Quran which is still unknown and it is believed to be unknown till end of all. The myth of 786 as how it came to origin is that it’s the numeric representation of Hurf-e-Abjad in the Whole Bismillah. And the singular characteristic given to it is 7+8+6=2+1=3 . So the digit 3 is also as mysterious unified significance of the Ism-e-Azam.
It is said that all names of “Allah” are known except one name which won’t be revealed ever and that’s what this whole logic represents. 786 is not exclusive to Bismillah so all the Words and Phrases unifying to 786 are in close conjecture to its logic.And its all to do with Arabic language. As “Be ism-e-Allah” self explains that Allah is hiding the Name.

Anyways it is appearing that `911` myth is growing to rise a logic to annihilate., and its getting more focused.

This article is very thought provoking and its hard to do justice with it.

Back in form parachay. Your best fiction stuff after Cactus Gas here. And reading all your fiction here all I can say is your protaganists remain to be anguished searchers. And may I say anguish searchers for a likable God, but all they get is either a God sold to them by capitalists or a God offered by the typical believers.

I believe this is nothing more than a double edged parody of the DiVinci Code. Has very interesting twists and turns regarding religions, science and ethics though.

Nadeem, this is really nice. Albeit with a couple of rather naive dabs at philosophy. I`m no expert myself so I won`t try to elaborate on that. But man, I have to say, whole paragraphs, finally...wow! I thought you didn`t know how to form a paragraph anymore.

I noticed some hints of Samuel Becket`s Lucky and Pozzo duo the Mukhtar-Master ching-fu connection. I liked the former much better and infinitely more poignant. However in that duo, Pozzo was probably God and probably Lucifer as well. And the twist there was not at the end but woven within the paradox....they were waiting for themselves. Your ending was more stark and sharp and as a result struck only once.

I also see a paralel where Pozzo asks Lucky to think and Lucky think/performs for the audience. If you haven`t read Waiting for Godot, you have probably read Sartre recently, and if not that, I`m plain wrong and am glad to see this happy coincidence.

The concept of the alien gods and the signs from the past pointing to the future, as in ``Chariots of gods`` by Eric Van Denikan, I hope I spelled his name correctly. The guy was widely discredited as fantastic and based his whole theory on circumstancial evidence, it did, nevertheless seem credible to the inquisitive mind and gave birth to a whole genre of sci fi movies.

I dimly remembered another short story written by someone else based on similar ideas but in reverse where human beings in some future date discover how to convert mass into energy and vice versa without losing anything and without limitation and we don`t need to speak since we have learned how to communicate via ``direct memory access``. And this guy who`s out on a space journy in his stationwagon ship when he lands on a hostile environment and is beset by these ugly monsterous creatures. In a panick, he transforms his socks into a kind of vision and transfers all of his knowledge into that vision and the vision then tells the creatures that this guy is GOD and is good so he should be worshipped. The guy later returns to earth and the system prmptly tries and hangs him when it`s discovered he transfered important human knowledge to an artefact and left it unprotected on another planet. And the creatures on the other planet are forever waiting for their God to return.

Okay that was a rant and I`ll get back to the topic. I found the story eminently readable.

The Paradox:
``No objects have an intrinsic characteristic of truth. Therefore everything that we perceive to be true can only be mere individual or social constructions, or the meanings that we attach to them. Therefore the world is a social construct with no objective truth.”

The reasoning is problematic. First, you started off without defining what you mean by truth. Then for good measure you mixed it up with perception. The conclusion is a bit hasty and rather simplistic. This is like reasoning ``All quadrupedes have an even number of legs. This particular horse has six legs and since for a quadrupede it`s a very odd number, therefore six on a horse, is an odd number of legs`` :)
A better put conclusion would probably be:

``Therefore, our perception of the world is based on social constructs and has no objective truth``

Your explanation of the paradox above:
``There is no truth. This statement at the very first glance is self-contradictory. It propounds that there is no truth. But for this to be true, the doctrine itself would have tobe false. Therefore the doctrine is claiming simultaneously that there is no truth, while at the same time that it, itself, is true. How’s this for a belief?”

I`ll take the first sentence to be the premis and give my opinion. This is a self referential sentence and a paradoxical one. the first recorded use of this kind of a paradox was by a Cretan philosopher named Epimenides(I hope this is the right spellings) when he said ``All Cretans are liars!`` Thus it came to be known as the Liar Paradox.

Plato added a further twist to it when his neighbour, Chrysippus said about Plato ``Don`t believe him, he`s a liar!``, and Plato smiled and said, ``He(Chrysippus) is right``. I hope I didn`t mix up the neighbour`s name with someone else though.

Another thing that`s funny about this kind of a paradox, as given in your statement ``There is no Truth``, is that it does not refer to itself as true. But even the best of us make the mistake of thinking that this statement is refering to itself as true. This leads us to surmise that human beings actually tend to ``believe`` and look at any communication as positive and true, until it contradicts itself.

On the whole I enjoyed reading the story. All those juicy pargraphs :)

Okay after two more glances this is what i figured out...

As I said already ``Sector 687`` and ``Sector 969`` and then again ``Sector 996`` all amount to 786 which to muslims mean Bismillah and 666 which of course is number of beast in Christian faith.
Then...
``Police State. Yes, Police State, he thought. He had read this expression somewhere. Where? And why was he usually cautioned by his parents about its usage? He asked, but was never told. Just to be be careful. The Philosopher Kings don’t appreciate such old-hat, worn out nonsense.
Thus Mukhrar did wonder: Was a Police State something bad. Bad enough to make the Philosopher Kings think that their ways embodied this badness? Or at least a part of it?``

Maybe here writer trying to warn of logic`s dictatorial and elitist nature.

``alien called Merlin by the ancients experiencing time backwards and helping build the Star Blocks of Sector 996 in West Timberlands. Star Blocks were once called Stonehenge by the ancients. ``

According to Stonehenge legend it was believed that magician Merlin of King Arthur fame had helped build Stonehenge blocks.


``aliens helped ancient prophets like one called Muhammad to ascent to giant sky stations which were thought be and curiously called “heaven,” returning before a glass knocked over had spilt its contents.``

I think this glass content taken from a hadith of prophet (PBUH).

``bent-gravitational labs around Sector 51 in Plot-Dust.``

Ofcourse, this fame Area 51 in Arizona.

``at the Grandfather Paradox University of Rational Time Travel Theories & Possibilities, to spend some time talking to his son.``

Isn`t this paradox about travel back in time and killing ones grandfather?

`` Master Ching-Fu wouldn’t write a Caution Thesis on Mukhtar for the Sector Philosophy Vanguards. ``

A take on things like Stalin police and Patriot Act. The logic of dictatorship.

````There is no truth. This statement at the very first glance is self-contradictory. It propounds that there is no truth. But for this to be true, the doctrine itself would have to be false. Therefore the doctrine is claiming simultaneously that there is no truth, while at the same time that it, itself, is true. How’s this for a belief?” ````

Meaning having no belief is best belief??

``“Yes … exactly seven hundred & eighty six times before. And you’ll keep coming back until the cycle is broken.”
“What happens to us …angels …when the cycle is broken?” Asked Mukhtar.
There was no reply. Mukhtar asked again: “What happens to me when the cycle is broken?”
“You …you all … whom we’ve code named angels …you become the philosopher kings.” Said the voice. “And then you try to rid what we have sown … and if you succeed, the game starts all over again.”
“But this has happened over and over again. You know the Philosopher Kings will succeed, like they have seven hundred & eighty-six times before …”
The voice inturruptd: “But the Philosopher Kings have only done so six hundered & sixty six times only.” ``

Again 786 vs 666.

And the ending is it about Lucifar`s revenge against gabrial? This is all I got maybe I am wrong but gist of much of this I think is what I wrote.

Left me dizzy.

your article seems very close to real religion in scientific thinkings:

As it starts :

``Aliens after all. Gods and prophets. Ancient astronauts. What a revelation. Conjectured extraterrestrial visitors to Earth in its distant past. Human beings are either the descendants or creations of aliens who landed on Earth millennia ago, and much of our culture was given to us by extraterrestrial visitors in the time of pre-history. ``.....

This paragraph says a lot...


Will read other revelations later , But I must say a very philosophical research..

Confusing but intriguing. So Mukhtar is actually Gabrial who too will eventually be cast out?

````There is only one God, who simultaneously permeates all creation and exists beyond it, being both immanent and transcendent.``

This sounds like a form of Hinduism to me.

``Sector 678`` [786] ``Sector 696`` [666] and on and on. As is apparent the whole story`s about age old devil vs god. And nicely done with science fiction themes and biblical concept of war in heaven in which satan and his allies are defeated by gabrial`s army and expelled. And so much more here which I have to read again for. Nice work.

This is a wonderful piece, a rhizome, very good indeed, NFP has come up with a `good` piece after a long long time. A rivalry between Platonic pure `Forms` and Nietzsche`s eternal recurrence.


This is beautiful line:
``There is only one God, who simultaneously permeates all creation and exists beyond it, being both immanent and transcendent.``

But as we go along the story rejects transcendence in favor of Spinozian pure imminence and the recognition of eternal recurrence of everything.

``Must not whatever can run its course of all things, have already run along that lane? Must not whatever can happen of all things have already happened, resulted, and gone by?``

``I will come back, with this sun, with this earth, with this eagle, with this serpent- not for a new life or a better life, but to to the same life I am now leading. I will come back unto this same old life, in the greatest things and in the smallest, in order to teach once more eternal recurrence of all things.``

= But the story has so much more, like I said its a rhizome....but all I think of now is in terms of Plato and Nietzsche. May be a second read will shed some more darkness.