My darling abaya!

Re: # 89
Wa alikum to you as well
Uloo!

malik sahib, you want to punch me hard on my face if you see me but you can`t do that, isn`t this what you really wanted to say. ha ha ha

if you can bring your ear near me, the point is, i can`t communicate with you for obviousl reasons and i know that. the only way to keep the things going is to somehow make you keep thinking. so think hard....

after all, you are my countryman and in this case my caste fellow too (are you from chakwal`s vicinity too?), so i can`t help wanting good for you.

malikjahanzeb #90 - if for nothing else, then just for the fact that we share part of our names, i will take it upon myself to part you a suggestion.

while you are trying your best to be funny, unfortunately, it is coming across as foolish (some might say stupid) ramblings. and i cringe and i wince when folks here reply to you by calling you ``malik sahib``. look at hamidm sahib. at least he is responsible enough to humor us by writing his posts after downing a six pack. that way, at least we know where he is coming from (we never know or care where he is going to with his reasoning, but that is a separate discussion)

even temporal`s dog makes some good points. so cool down and think before you write.

ntsyed sahib,

you are the most modren moulvi i have ever seen in my life. otherwise, none of the usual ones would have the balls to stand the presence of apostates, agnostics, athiests, munfiqoon, fahoosh and kafirs of chowk. the last one of this kind was moulana kosar niaza who earned the gracious title of `moulana whiskey`. i solute your persistance (read dhitaai).

jazak-allah-khair

Re: # 83 Shoresahib,

sab chowk ki meherbaniyaan hein werna banda kiss laiq hay. ooper wala touba qubool kerta hay, apna to plan hay ke merne se 1 min pehle ker lain gay. ;-)

#83:
ShoreSahib, Adaab!

and no, it`s not an invitation for you to squeeze me physically ;)

#79:
Malik sahib, get a hold of yourself, lest you slip over your own `x-tasy` and injure yourself ... not to mention the unnecessary trip to the washer/dryer and the outhouse ;) lol

as-taghfirullah

jazak-Allah-khair to both of you.
Ma`as-salaam

#81:
``First of all, this is the 1st time that I came across your posts so I was not sure on your gender status. MY fault! ``

It`s a good sign that you do acknowledge your mistakes.

``Looking at the unending posts, I should have guessed.``

now you know how assuming makes a jackASS out of U than ME

``With due respect, I refuse to oblige you with a response to your post. Keep it short and simple. You are way too convoluted! I am sorry but I do not have the time to look into a laheem shaheem saheefa on Chowk.``

What`s the matter Oh secluraly enlightened one... out of ammo or cat got your tongue? tch tch tch


``Note: Please do not make generalizations on women`s clothing based on your limited experience. Stick to your abaya, hijab and their family discussions.``

Generalizations are what comprise your posts about plight of muslim women and their mysogenic male kin.

``I understand that just the mention of women`s jeans raises the testosterone level in many. Please take it easy!``

now here comes the truth about why ``westernly enlightened women`` don figure huggin clothes. Perhaps the rise in testosterone level -- demonstrated in the form of lewd comments and gestures -- helps these women feel even better about themselves.

Is it a partial reason in your ideals of fashion or the only one? I hope it`s the former.

jazak-Allah-kahir

#80:

Funny stuff, temporal. Jazak-Allah-khair

Re: # 78

khamkhwa, jazak-Allah-khair for your observation and correction.

Please allow me to correct it:

``for (Omer - ra) was a non-mehram to `Aisha (ra) while he was alive. Thus, out of respect for him and her own ultimate modesty, she veiled herself in that room where he was buried``

Re: # 77

hamidm, you`ve hit it on the head with ``on the other hand i am constantly perplexed by younger and more shapely women in hijab, tight jeans and even tighter blouses (full sleeves, of course) - what is the purpose of that ?........... any healthy male will never get past their j-lo behind and britney breasts to look at their hair and arms - astagfruallah! ............ the logic of the mullahs escapes me ..........``

Contrary to what most people believe, the hijab is not restricted to headscarf. It may not be to attract unwanted attention whilst adhering to one`s faith in Allah. Even Nuns understand the concept of modesty better than our secularized muslim women who wish to have a best of both worlds with this gross misconception.

Such limited hijab beats the purpose altogether, since flaunting one`s endowments with a headscarf (caps-in case of men) serves the same purpose as without it.

Thus, the specific instructions to the ``believing`` women to cover themselves with loose outer garment - referred to as `jalabeeb` - in Sura Al-Ahzab.

jazak-Allah-Khair
N

Re: # 79
Dear Mr Malik Khalaa`Zeb Sahib!
Jo Dil mein bey tuki aati hai woh Haank detay ho kya.
As tughfirullah!
It is people like you who give Muslims a bad name.
Fittay Munh!

Re: # 78
Thank you
You are being nice when calling him Nutty.
Lord have Mercy, what a Namoona!

KarvaaN guzar gayaa, Ghubaar daikhtay rahay.

Oh whatever the liberals & humanists espoused is crumbling & collapsing. The REAL tragedy (for them) is it is happening not only their lifetimes but most likely they will live just long enough to see more & more of it ( Inshallah)

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NEWS : CAMPUS;March 26, 2005

Religious practices may change when students enter college
Kholood Habiballa, a freshman open-optionmajor, feels safer, despite some racism, to express her religiousbeliefs at CSU than in high school.

``Maybe it`s peer pressure,`` said Habiballa. ``I didn`t feel comfortable expressing myself as much (in high school).``

Entering college can represent a change in lifestyle for many
students. This change in lifestyle can also mean a change in religious
and spiritual values and practices.

``Certainly in our culture, (college) is a time where lifedevelopment and re-examination occurs,`` said Cindy Swindell aUniversity Counseling Center psychologist. ``Changes, at least temporarychanges, are likely.``

Habiballa, who works as an office manager at the Muslim Student Association, has seen these changes in her own life when she came toCSU. She wears an abaya, a traditional loose black robe worn by Muslim women that covers the body from head to toe. In high school she did not wear it.

While she said most people are nice about the fact that she wears an abaya, about a month ago a man confronted her and a friend and made racist comments toward her.

``It (can be) kind of scary,`` Habiballa said. ``(But) my religious perspectives have only gotten stronger. I have more time for myself to think about what path I should take.``

Swindell said counselors at the UCC are open to discussing spiritual issues with students who seek advice.``I am one of the a few counselors with a special interest in
spirituality of a person`s development,`` Swindell said. ``(There is) a willingness with asking students if there are any spiritual resources they can utilize with spiritual dilemmas. There are some students who request to speak to someone who shares that background.``

Swindell personally thinks that spirituality is a larger concept than religion, but emphasizes that it is not her role at the university to be a spiritual guide or counselor. She just holds interest in the topic.

Hillel president Kayla Brummett found that her religious practices changed in a positive way after she came to CSU.

``I was raised Jewish but I wasn`t what you would call very religious until I came to CSU,`` said Brummett, a junior English education major. ``My religious practices became more abundant.``

Brummett said she heard about Hillel, the Jewish student organization on campus, while attending Preview(do you want to explain this to our non-college students?) and thought it sounded like a good way to get involved.

``What initially brought me in was meeting the people,`` Brummett said. ``In high school I was one of seven (Jewish) students. (But at service here) I know that there will be people there my age.``

She said another advantage of living in a college town is that services are generally geared toward topics the students will like. She thinks it will be helpful to students of any denomination to check out different groups on campus.

``I was a resident assistant for over a year and a half,`` Brummett said. ``I found that for some of my residents, it was helpful that they could experience different things.``

Jon Dodson, an intern at United Campus Ministry, said in college he applied religious knowledge instead of just memorizing it, but also sometimes finds it harder to attend church because his parents are not making him go.

``It kind of goes along with the change in educational perspective,`` said Dodson, a senior forestry management student. ``When I came tocollege, I know what the Bible says now. But it was definitely harder (to attend weekly service). I think some of the reasons for that was a sense of finding my spirituality more in a sense of community of friends.``

Dodson has attended several different services and seen a variety of styles.

``Some services are directly oriented to the college population, and some services have been more of the traditional-style services,`` Dodson said.

Whatever a student`s religious beliefs may be, a wide variety of organizations exist in the CSU community. A list of religious and spiritual organizations can be found at www.spiritual/colostate.edu.

Re: # 70

First of all, this is the 1st time that I came across your posts so I was not sure on your gender status. MY fault! Looking at the unending posts, I should have guessed. With due respect, I refuse to oblige you with a response to your post. Keep it short and simple. You are way too convoluted! I am sorry but I do not have the time to look into a laheem shaheem saheefa on Chowk.

Note: Please do not make generalizations on women`s clothing based on your limited experience. Stick to your abaya, hijab and their family discussions. I understand that just the mention of women`s jeans raises the testosterone level in many. Please take it easy!

straight from t’s msn window

nawab as most of you know is the talented, psychic dog that subroto inherited from Ahmed his friend when he left for TO

nawab:paw paw
temporal: hi
n: why don’t you have a word with your friend?
t: stop coming to chowk…go chase kites or cars
n: there you go!...i am more observant and polite than some who visit chowk
t:: remind me i should thank subroto for poop and scoop
n: you are worse than echoboom
t: wrong tree! nobody can be worse than that hateful twit....though jay comes close...
n: what is it between you and him anyways tell me?
t: between me and that hateful abdul hate?...ah, where do i begin…how much time do you have?
n: (jeez he can go on all night...i better change the subject)…too bad ntsyed is married
t: ntsyed?...is he also echoboom?
n: stop seeing everyone behind echo’s nick
t: well i know he is not zahraj!
n: you are not as naïve:)
t: i don’t want compliments from dogs, but thanks anyways
n: you know who is the sanest in the mad house?
t: ntsyed?
n: woof woof
t: malik?
n: woof woof
t: hamidm? sameen? she is saudia...she can only access internet when her husband is around?
t: you are human, you will never guess
n: (ab kuttON say bhee yeh baat sunni paReygi)
n: you forget i can read your mind
t: how is subroto?
n: don’t change the subject
t: achcha bhai kuttay, bata bhee day
n: khamkhwa! he is the wisest…he’d be a dog in the next reincarnation
t: he’d be delighted to learn that…what will he be a dachshund or a chihuahua?
n: go write bad poetry
t: dogs!

untill now, i have become a great fan of mrs. hamidm`s wisdom.

and hamidm, you are right, allah`s orders are to be taken as orders. any dishonesty (like what is happenning in north american muslims) puts them in a great risk to be the targets of allah`s wrath. i think they have forgot what happenned to jews who trapped fish at the day of sabbath for the mere reason to piss off allah and that they were turned into apes (i don`t know why darwin coulnd`t comprehend this simple fact). i think it`s prime time that within our lifetimes, these women with ass tight jeans will be turned into something like tamater or mooli for their sins. what will happen to us then? we will be left with women like water filled shopper bags.

brother ntsyed`s elaboration on philosophy of hijab did the same to me as a movie with three `x` used to do when i was in metric. in deed, muslims enjoy ploughing in their fields a lot more than these senseless kafirs do. previously, when i listened to the length stories about arab sheikhs, i mistakenly thought it was something racial. now i realize the true power of allah`s religion.

indeed, allah`s religion is the best way to live.

[for he was a non-mehram to her even if he was dead. ] ntsyed.

nutty syed..you sure are nutty...;)