My darling Dhoti!

nice reading.
I wonder why people are ashamed of their dress.waisy dhoti will be easier for traveling.

the s ture

echo, where do you keep your kannezes? the one your left hand posseses?

Re: # 41

..ask the booger where does he place his kaneezes or female slaves...;)

a woman is a rakhail if she is in a relation for monetary benefits. i dont think liz hurley fits this defination. i dont think arun fits it either. echoboom, an out of marriage relation may be immoral for you, but need not be in a kept-woman category. so reconsider your ``judgement`` (pls dont sout urdu at us, its very tiring to read it in roman)

#echoboom,
liz is not nayyars rakhail, they are in a relationship, DUH, u used the word ,
guess u dont know the meaning of relationship

reenash:37

Nice to know that for you too Rakhail is a gaali. It is not an India or pakistan, muslim or hindu issue.

Good values will always be good...immutable, for all centuries.

Tahmed ki shaan mein...aik shair haazir-e-khidmat hai...;)

Lungi kaheN, dhoti kaheN, tahmed kaheN isse
kiss nuqta-e-nazar se yeh insaan bun gayee

#echoboom

liz was ex rakhail( acc to u) of hugh grant, whose rakhail now is jemima khan paks ex
sweetheart

Ghaggray vi gaye,phulkariyaaN vi gaiyaaN
KannaaN vich gokhRu tay valiyaaN vi gaiyaaN
Ghund vi gaye tay ghund waaliyaaN vi gaiyaaN
Chall paye vilayeti baaneiN
Kee banuuN duniyaaN da
sachchay paatshaah waahguru jaaneiN

an old poppular song of Gurdas Mann which can be listened to at www.apna.org

Dhoti`s are great and versaltile pieces of clothing.You can scratch your vitals without constraint, one`s vitals are not constrained by tight clothing as in pants et al, and that explains why men in rural india are so fertile, dhotis are great for quickie`s in the car if one gets lucky, one can wipe one`s hands after washing and thereby contract less germs( as opposed to wiping on a washroom towel that has seen atleast a thosuand syphillitic hands touch it), one can roll up a dhoti in wet weather and not have clothes soiled as in pants or pajamas.They are one of the most versatile but yet one of the most maligned piece of clothing invented by man.Sad.

Echoboom:

Behave yourself.
&
Mind your own business.

Thanks.

Re: # 32
[You believe in divide and fool]

chacha ab tum ko kya divide kerna...tum bilkul mukammal ho...;)

Khamkhwa:31
everybody knows you by now. You believe in divide and fool. [phapa kuutnee naa ho toa}

No wonder ZahraJ has no repect for men ( like you).

ntsyed:28

aap kaa darrhee vala icon achhee eejaad hai, mgar voh gum vala misra bay-mauquaa thha.

Re: # 28
boom boom...
itna ghatiya shair sirf aur sirf ghatiya khwateen ke liye istemaal hota hai...how dare you...;)

Re: # 22

I suppose the concept is a little difficult for the `keepers` of `morals` to understand.

Ahem... with all due respect miss Farzana, judging from your essays should one consider you a `keeper` of `morals` on certain issues...or are your conscientious articles immoral?

This is one of the things that some consider wrong, so they speak out...just like you do on other things.

Cheers!

Re: # 28

echo...it could also be:

tum itna jo muskura rahay ho;
kya gham hai jis ko chhupa rahay ho?

;-)~~

ZahraJ:27
and taste it is!



``dil aagaya `kisi` pUr toa pUree kyaa cheez hai``.

``UnGRRaee bhhee voh lainay naa paaey, uthhaa kay haath
daikhhaa mujhhay toa chhoRRe diyay muuskuraa kai haath``

Must be the beautiful spring season keh ``tuum itna jo muskuraa rahay ho``.

..zaroor koi baat hai, zaroor koi baat hai.

Re: # 26

[The best men in the world are Desi or muslim: At least that is what Diana (Doady & that Paki Doctor) , Jemima( Khan), Sonia( Gandhi), Suhaa(arafat), Jehan( Sadat) attest to that plus all the unsung blondes who are happy in the harems of the Sheikhs & Emirs--in a buurquaa!. ]

It`s a matter of personal taste :)

ZahraJ:19
echo: Iss main itna khush honae kee kyaa baat hae?

---

Bhaee aap kaa sense of humor daikh kr khushee huee.

In stories told by grandmaa there was a young & beautiful princess who was always sad & angry.
Her father, the king announced a reward for for anyone who could bring a smile to her face.............

That`s all Zahraj.

The best men in the world are Desi or muslim: At least that is what Diana (Doady & that Paki Doctor) , Jemima( Khan), Sonia( Gandhi), Suhaa(arafat), Jehan( Sadat) attest to that plus all the unsung blondes who are happy in the harems of the Sheikhs & Emirs--in a buurquaa!.

Iss meiN bhalaa itnaa naraaz hoanay kee kyaa baat hai. ;)

OK:
Headline should read:

Liz Hurley turns sari clad keeper of Arun.

or

Liz Hurley turns sari clad in adult relationship with arun.

but definitely not bahu. ..their is still a certain respect & decorum left in that word. If there is a bahu, can a saas be far behind?

It comes with the territory. Can`t have it everywhich way.

[I suppose the concept is a little difficult for the `keepers` of `morals` to understand.]

...hehehehehe... you are ostracised for telling the truth...;)

Re: # 14

#11 by ntsyed on April 22, 2005 11:30am PT
dhoti reminded me of an old Omer Sharif joke on malabaris in the UAE:

During the hot desert summers, the UAE govt only has to watch how they (malabari) wear the lungi. At 40c the lungi goes up to the knees; at 45c it goes higher; and at 50c the govt simply announces: ``malabari dekhna mana hai``

My apologies if anyone is offended.

---

Maybe this is the epitome of good manners that i should emulate.My apologies , too, if anyone is offended.And to be called a marathi ``ghati`` one of the other boards is also indicative of the `cultured` people such as yourself and others that i should emulate, i presume.Such good manners.Pray, tell me, which school did you attend?.

Interesting piece, preferably if read straight without metaphors...

A few general points: Dhotis look far better on women. The Maharashtrian style nine-yard saree functions in pretty much the same way as does the koli (fisher)women`s. The latter is a clingier version.

Re. Liz Hurley in the pink saree, she had draped in badly -- there was something tacky about the way her pallu covered only one half of the blouse. It looked gauche; if she wanted to sex up her act, there are several versions of the choli she could have played around with.

About her being a `rakhail` -- a kept woman-- it would make better sense to refer to Arun as the kept man, since she is the wealthier and more famous of the two. That is, if one wishes to pigeonhole people. They are lovers -- she is single and he has been separated from his wife and court proceedings are on. They are two adults in a Relationship.

I suppose the concept is a little difficult for the `keepers` of `morals` to understand.

Nice article.
Dhoti,Jhaggi,Khussa,Chaadra,Huqqa,Saafa,loyee,Ghaggra,phulkaari....all these things have almost disappeared and given way to their so called modern counterparts.Is it because of our unconscious desire to identify with the master(angrez) or simply a change and in which direction this change is heading?
The article reminded me of Dr. Wazir Agha`s ``inshaiyey``.

Re: # 11

HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! omer sharif rocks!!

Re: # 18

echo: Iss main itna khush honae kee kyaa baat hae? I liked the sense of humor in this ``sweet`` write-up and not the desi-ness/muslim-ness/Pakistani-ness or ``Punjabi-ness``. Do not misread and misinterpret.

Feroze Qutubshahi:

Zahraj has said what I wanted to say.

I echo:
A sweet write-up.

shades of akhtal-uliman: ``mgar ubb voh chhotaa saa laRRkaa kahaaN`` in the last lines. Any thoughts there.

P.S: and you as a bona-fide desi, muslim, Paki--thanks a million to have brought smiles & good cheer to Zahraj. Now I can walk a little more cheerful because I too have a dhoti, a huQQuaa, and Paandaan to quell those ``critical`` bouts.

A nice article i like the ``Dhoti`` thing which you mixed up with prevailing styles in desi people.

A sweet write-up!

:)

satyamada:13

Thanks for the compliment.
What other perspective should I have if not a Paki or a muslim`s? haaN?

I respect you because you too have a hindian perspective. you are not monkey-see, monkey-do.

Anyone who retains language, religion, food, dress despite the rampant western racism all over the world is my buddy--even if he is an outspoken & outed former-muslim.

Anyone who is a munafique , a now-you-see-me-now-you-don`t smoke-&-mirror-operator,
better change his route if he spots me.

But she is still a Rakhail because he is a boyfriend & not a husband........

#12

It might boost your ego to know that you are making tremendous contribution towards lowering chowk standards. Please tone down your anti punjabi/sardar comments especially when no one is attacking you.

If you need help with good manners, you can always take some self help on-line courses at night rather than surfing filthy sites.

echoboom,

You again have shown the difference in priorities between a yindoo and a paki.

I being a yindoo, was focussed on the the gain, how a major actress wearing a sari
would translate into gains in indian cultural influence in the west.

you on the other hand, looked at it from your own paki perspective and indulged in
name calling just because a person was wearing a sari !

Once, a Hindu, a Sardar and an American were travelling in an aeroplane. Suddenly, something went wrong and the engines stalled. They had no parachutes with them. So all the three of them decided to risk their lives and jump out of their planes. First, the Sardar jumped out. He removed his turban, used it as a parachute and jumped. Using the turban he slowly floated down. Then the Hindu removed his dhoti and jumped out. Again his dhoti acted as a parachute and he also floated down gently. Seeing this, the American removed his shirt and pant and jumped out. Unfortunately, they did not do well as a parachute and he began to fall rapidly from the plane to the ground. He passed by the Hindu who said - `` May Bhagwan help you``. Then he passed the Sardar. The Sardar looked at the American zooming past him and was puzzled. So he said - ``I see! You want a race! Let us see who is faster`` Saying so, he let go of his turban and tried to catch up with the American.
Sigh.
............

dhoti reminded me of an old Omer Sharif joke on malabaris in the UAE:

During the hot desert summers, the UAE govt only has to watch how they (malabari) wear the lungi. At 40c the lungi goes up to the knees; at 45c it goes higher; and at 50c the govt simply announces: ``malabari dekhna mana hai``

My apologies if anyone is offended.

nazarhayatkhan,
Even in India dhoti was always worn in the rural areas, and lungi a later fashion. For the weather that we have, dhoti is a confortable wear if one knows how to wear it. Urban India has taken to pants and pyjamas rather than dhoti. Although I must say that kurta has taken an even bigger beating than dhoti. Its been reduced to just a fancy dress.

.......``apart from her boyfriend Arun Nayar.......``,
Liz Hurley turns sari clad `bahu`
#8 by satyamvada

Wrong headline; the correct word is : Rakhail.
``Liz Hurley turns sari clad rakhail

India`s ``soft power`` proceeds unimpeded....

Liz Hurley turns sari clad `bahu`

excellent article! Well, ok, it wasn`t excellent excellent, but it made for good reading.

Wonderful satire!

A breather from the nasty bickering in progress at another board. Thank you, Feroz!

Loss of one`s identity is perhaps the biggest loss there could be. While all good things come to an end, this shouldn`t be one of them.

My friends, the point of this somewhat fictional piece has little to do with Dhoti, and a lot (everything) to do with how many distractions are there for an immigrant to so easily get sucked into ways other than one’s own cultural idiosyncrasies. Often times, there is no explanation for that. Dhoti was a metaphor for happening, the writer is expressing that one is lifting one’s dhoti up so high that his ass is fully exposed for the whole world to see (except himself).

This wasn’t meant to be real or a 5th grade English assignment. I apologize.

(Feroz)

Amit # 2

(Now we find that Pakistanis are wearing dhotis!!)

Dhoti is a normal dress in Punjabi country side even today. Lungi is a fashion. In Punjabi movies, the Mutear (young healthy girl/woman) wears Lungi. And so does the hero.

The entire last generation wore Dhoti, at least at home. Shalwar is still associated with Urbanites, educated, somewhat rich.

Dhoti has gone out of fashion for the new urban generation only.

nhk

I like this article. For one thing, it proves that it is possible to write about funny topics having nothing to do with politics and still make a (sort of) point. However, I won’t be surprised if you get very few interacts.

I have always been intrigued by how few are the Indian men outside India (or for that matter, even within India) who continue to wear dhotis. Just contrast that with the number of Indian women who insist on wearing saris no matter what part of the world they may be located in. Wearing a dhoti can not be any more complicated than wearing a sari! I suppose women are more likely to cling on to cultural symbols and don’t mind doing the extra work that is needed! Or are they scared of making a change?

Also:
[I didn’t want to see my cousin upset.]
[I slapped Irfan on his face as hard as I could and I left the restaurant.]
How highly inconsistent of you! Also, did you WALK home?

[Today, I also own a 1957 Alfa-Romeo convertible, have lots of old stuff in my house and I don’t have any Dhotis.]
This change seems too abrupt. So what happened?

Hey Bhagwan,

Kya zamaana aa gaya!! Now we find that Pakistanis are wearing dhotis!! Next we will hear that Pakistanis are eating Idlis and Dhosas for breakfast :-)

As a hindu, I can honestly say that I have never worn a dhoti, not that there is anything wrong with it !!:-)

yawn.........happy jashn-e-eid milad un Nabi.