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A Season of Faith’s Defection

Fahd Raza May 20, 2005

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#12 Posted by fahdaliraza on July 17, 2005 10:42:26 pm
Thank you very much, good sir! Very nice of you to say that!
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#11 Posted by FAHD on June 3, 2005 6:02:53 am
hey

Mr Fahd Raza !!!

how amazing we have same name!!

well we can have same name but how exactly same :)

well i like your article actually my brother showed me this

you rock
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#10 Posted by fahdaliraza on May 28, 2005 12:47:33 pm
Re: # 7

Thanks for your comment. What I believe is that I have no right to comment or to stop you from drinking or whatever. However, if your drinking is interfering with traffic laws, then the `state` can stop you. It`s a question of limit.
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#9 Posted by fahdaliraza on May 28, 2005 12:44:57 pm
Guys, thanks for your comments on my articles. If there are any specific questions, I can answer them. Otherwise I write regular columns for mags in Pakistan and abroad. Once again, thanks for appreciating the article.
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#8 Posted by vagabond78 on May 23, 2005 12:10:25 am
Religious men of islam with their beards and skull caps are somewhat more acceptable to the eye when compared to half-naked (at times completely naked) sadhus in India. And not just sadhus, even the priest who leads the pujas in households would come with only a dhoti wrapped around; topless with big belly showing; sacred ash everwhere; and sometimes bald with just a pigtail on their shaved heads. But why is that secular hindus are not repulsed by the sight? Devotees touching the feet of temple priest is a common sight. Never mind that the pujari is much younger than the old men and women that are devotees. Imagine a rich, cultured, secular and educated middle aged man (or woman) bending down and touching the feet of barely-out-of-teens pujari!!

Why doesnt `secular and enlightened` hindus scoff at their `mullah` and his appearance? Heck, why doesnt secular Indian muslims dont react to the bearded mullahs as secular Pakis do? Think about it.

Cheers
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#7 Posted by fuzair on May 22, 2005 9:42:42 pm
What a complete load of BS (including the learned commentary by ntsyed). The real difference between ``true believers`` (muslims and christians alike) and most secularists is that the latter don`t care if you want to worship God in your own way on your own time using your own dime, while the former really do want to ram their cockeyed mythology down your throats.

I for one, a true secularist, really don`t care if you bang your head on the floor hard enough to give you permanent brain damage. Presumably, you, as a true Muslim, really do care if I enjoy a quiet whiskey and soda in the comfort of my own house.
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#6 Posted by jay on May 22, 2005 8:26:31 pm
You talk of tolerance in islam, well what does the book say about conversion from islam. In all of the islamic countries, it is death for any one who dares to convert, and still there are the educated who talk of tolerance of other religions in islam. May be the author can make a beginning with being honest and that would be a good.
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#5 Posted by ntsyed on May 22, 2005 4:01:29 am
Fahd, I hope you`re not discouraged by the lack of interacts to your most astute commentary. The silence of the ``secular`` extremists is a loud proof that your words have more than touched a raw nerve :-)~~
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#4 Posted by ntsyed on May 21, 2005 1:07:15 pm
I dunno what happened to my last post... oh well :S

Anyway, very well written Fahd.

I can relate to the last sentence of your essay from personal experience on this portal. These progressives are true nut-cases; in some cases even worse than the jali mullahs back home.

Jazak-Allah for your wisdom.
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#3 Posted by Saj1981 on May 21, 2005 4:23:21 am
You`re treading down a dangerous line here....secularists as fanatic as they maybe rarely if ever condemn other religious/social groups tp eternal condemnation..believe in divine ordained religious wars....try utterly and completely restrict one half of society to becoming ``home makers``...believe in the ``protocols of the elders of zion``...heheh...have fantastic notion of religious defined supra-national state coming to power to defeat the ``unbelievers``...severely restrict many areas of scientific and social research in the name of religion....need I go on..point...we`re talking two very different issues....and secularist fanatics for all their eccentricities are not quote the threat to modern developing societies that the mad mullah bunch are.
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#2 Posted by ixno on May 20, 2005 3:53:25 pm
one mans food is another mans poison !!
entire muslim clergy must should be given a paid vacation to Vegas
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#1 Posted by winterpk on May 20, 2005 11:29:44 am
Oh mr. raza u make so much sense and I totally agree with u!! i`m surprised to c no interacts on this page yet!

i mean why are only muslims bad and bloodthirsty beasts? what about jews? is everyone blind to their beards and tall hats and black coats and religious centers? dont their women cover their heads and wear a full dress during all sorts of weather? is hijab and burqa backward only because it is an islamic attire? my friends tell me they wouldnt dream of wearing a shalwar suit in New York for fear of being singled out as a pakistani muslim...they think if they wear pants they wont be stared at. And then the West proclaims itself to be liberated and civilized plus the Muslims are actually willing to agree and obey!

not all rebellion is intelligent and 9/11 is an example but then it was not an islamic act either. a muslim soldier, by quranic definition, does not attack the defenceless and that too in times of peace. nonetheless, if the muslim world has 9/11 to answer to then the west has abu gareb and iraq. it is like the seculars saying to the islamists, ``you`re black!``

please continue to write more articles.

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Interact Index

    #12 fahdaliraza
    #11 FAHD
    #10 fahdaliraza
    #9 fahdaliraza
    #8 vagabond78
    #7 fuzair
    #6 jay
    #5 ntsyed
    #4 ntsyed
    #3 Saj1981
    #2 ixno
    #1 winterpk

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