F-16s to Pakistan—Why Now?

good one shri arjun...did you think of that all by yourself, or were you being pleasured by shri hashish and he helped you out with that? must have really wracked your pea for that!! man, you are a genius!

#180 by rsridhar on April 13, 2005 6:36pm PT
re:#175 by cayenne
Chill out guy.
India is finally reaping some good benefits of sticking to freemarket economy for a decade or so but make no mistake, it is still a very poor country. In fact, it is gut-wrenchingly poor..


......Maybe it is your kind that goes looking for `homeless people` and poverty to justify and feel smug about your loser decisions to become second hand citizens in another country.With the construction boom in india, manual labor is best utilized and therefore shanty towns near construction sites is a familair sight.Infact , city admins are making concerted efforts to prevent human migration from rural to urban areas and containing the spread of slums.Even existing ones are being broken up.Every foreigner(other than indian) i have bumped into are amazed at the changes , positive and negative, going on in india.Even the poor man`s car, the Maruti 800, comes equipped with a/c and other features and the main purchasers of these low end vehicles are town and rural populations.

My dad purchased a Chevrolet Optra last week.The dealer didn`t have a demo available when we visited the dealership, they were all out, and we were in a hurry.The dealership apologised and arranged for a test drive the next day.And, guess what??.The dealer drove the car home and allowed us to test it on any kind of road we wanted to.The car which was offered with a discount, cost the same as the similar mid-size Chevrolet in the US, and was equipped with power windows and radio cassette , a/c standard.The cost Rs 6.5 lacs, tax, title and insurance included.GM India is peddling about 1500 of these cars a month, which is way below what other manufacturers like Maruti, Hyundai India, Opel India,Ford India et al are selling for their similar sized models.

Lack of hygiene, civic sense, social responsibility are things we still have to work on, but as far as money, there`s a lot of it in india now and even the poor are not penniless.Far from it!!.They spend it differently from the middle and upper middle classes.That`s all.

re:#175 by cayenne
Chill out guy.
India is finally reaping some good benefits of sticking to freemarket economy for a decade or so but make no mistake, it is still a very poor country. In fact, it is gut-wrenchingly poor. I only have to step out of the Airport everytime i visit India to know that i am right.
It will take at least 25 years for India to become a decent middle class country (that is if it sticks to present pace of development and does not end up in war with Pak).
One of my surgical colleagues visited India (Gujarat) about a year ago. His first impression was that there were a lot of homeless people.
You are talking only about some middle class people reaping the benefit but the benefit has not yet percolated into smaller cities and rural hinderland, where the masses of India live.
Sridhar

#178 by taqat-e-parvaaz on April 12, 2005 8:54pm PT

reading your post makes me want to go out for a bacon cheeseburger...wonder why that is...

#176 by arjun_m on April 12, 2005 12:47pm PT
#175 by cayenne on April 12, 2005 11:30am PT


Every working citizen in india is now being issued a PAN card


A hi-tech PAN card is as useful to you as grandma`s big teeth were to little red riding hood....

..........I pray you`re not another NRI, up to your tuckus in debt, with a mortgage.or , you might be the bigger loser of all, the recent work permit coolie.You`re gonna end up nowhere.I think you are the latter.I feel sorry for you and your kind.

#175 by cayenne on April 12, 2005 11:30am PT


Every working citizen in india is now being issued a PAN card


A hi-tech PAN card is as useful to you as grandma`s big teeth were to little red riding hood....

I am `sitting` in India, and i see change all around me.People who were lucky enough to afford a two-wheeler are moving around in cars, and folks who pedaled around in cycles are now aspiring to own bikes.I checked the used car ads last weekend, and a Premier 118NE, till 1995 a premium car for the well heeled can be bought now for as low as 35000 rupees, with a/c, power windows and bucket seats, well maintained.If not well maintained, such cars head for the junkyard.Good roads,consumer durables or `fmcg`s` as they are known here, restaurants to suit every budget, happening nightclubs, dance clubs and cafes adorn every street in every major city in India, and Mumbai is the most glaring example of them all.Household help is at a premium as ever more of the poor are moving on to better paying jobs in catering and office maintenance.Call center employees are treated to meals depending on their shifts and this has created a lucrative catering industry in which even the big players are moving in on.Recently a law was passed enabling companies to hire women for night shift in factories creating more capacity in our industries and allowing them to maximise their output.

Every working citizen in india is now being issued a PAN card which looks very much like an US `green` card with security features like holograms,photograph etal and an unique number assigned to each individual.This is to ensure collection of taxes and also works as an official ID card.Very soon all indians will start to receive one.I bought a new mobile phone at a reliance call centre and the attendant with one entry transferred all my telephone nos. in my old phone to my new one.I did not have to sit and input everything again!.And, i didn`t even ask for this!!.I could go on and on, but i won`t.A new resurgent india is on the march, yet i see many indians on `chowk` unable to see the woods for the trees on this matter.I therefore have to assume that they either are refusing to see the writing on the wall, or are just grudgingly accepting of the new india, as it might just be a situation of sour grapes.The west is either dead or dying, everyone is up to their eyeballs in debt and it is just a matter of time before the house of cards come a-crashing.Indians in india are having a better quality-of-life quotient, as they have the benefit of family support, the honor of living in one`s own land and everything that is available in the developed world is also available in india and at quite affordable levels, or at the same price hierarchy.Sad folks, you are.

I see the pandit-hates are in full swing.

As t would say, tea anyone??

re:#167 by vivek
I can always take some logical criticisms but this guy T-e-P seems like the one who is bigoted. He is crticising Indians for just being Indians!
Sridhar

Re: # 173
not at all. i can assure you i am not the fanatic that shri arjun and shri harish are. quite the opposite. a hundred people on this board will testify to who the fanatic among me and shri arjun and shri harish. just read shri arjun`s iLog, and you`ll see who hates who for the sake of hating. i just feel it necessary to place my boot in strategic positions of arjun`s hairy ass so that he knows what he`s actually worth. the same goes for his boyfriend. but then again, i always enjoy it, and always come out on top. so its a win win for me. :) regards,

re:#168 by harimau
It is a pity, if what u say is true. All the more reason India should forge an alliance with US and get the technology (assuming US has it).
A lot of people i have talked to here seem to be wary of China and its intentions. China is unreliable as a friend. India needs to be at peace with that country to prosper but anything more than trade with China would not be in India`s interest. At least that is what i think.
Sridhar

re:#169 by arjun_m
You had me there buddy.
I went to the link you posted and let me confess, i did not understand a thing. But then, i am not into this IT business, so i am not ashamed.
Sridhar

re:#166 by einsteinwallah
``Canada has more or less accepted hegemony of USA. Who is the real boss in North America is an issue more or less settled. Not so in our subcontinent.``
Well, the matter is settled as far as rest of the world is concerned but Pakis won`t accept India as the leader in the area because their H and D does not allow it.
Canadians are smart people who have decided to live in prosperity by aligning economically with USA. It would have been futile to compete with US and spend a lot of money on arms.
You failed to mention another important difference. India and Pak are ideological enemies while US and Canada are not.
Sridhar

#158 by rsridhar on April 11, 2005 5:42am PT


I will not be surprised if this T-e-P character studied in a madrassa, rocking himself away in front of his holy book.


A good analogy...the students in the madrassahs don`t understand the arabic they are learning...porky t-e-p doesn`t know squat about some of the links he is posting..like the SOC design company he posted as an example of paki technology...i`ll bet he doesn`t know what a SOC is...or what palmchip actually produces....

he doesn`t know squat about muxed buses...his knowledge is limited to blowing up buses...

Palmchip patents the obvious

I was blown away when I read that PalmChip was recently granted a patent on unidirectional muxed buses on systems-on-chip. Engineers have been designing non-tristate buses ever since forever.

``Our first phase is to inform the SoC industry that we have been granted this patent,`` said James Venable, vice president of marketing at PalmChip, in a recent EE Times article. ``We want to give companies that are creating on-chip buses an opportunity to examine their technology to see if there is a conflict and then, if there is, to contact us. We intend to be cooperative about this, not punitive. But of course, we will defend our patent aggressively.``

This means the PalmChip lawyers and engineers will be going door to door to do a shakedown to collect on this absolutely absurd patent they somehow snookered the U.S. Patent Office into granting them.

Don`t get me wrong. I`m not against people who do real innovation being able to benefit from their inventions, but in this case it seems clear that PalmChip just patented the obvious and is trying to claim it`s special and innovative because it`s on an SoC. What`s next? Intel claiming a patent on NAND gates on SoC chips?

Ref rsridhar #160

[...USA is offering India technology for civilian nuclear power reactors. If that technology can utilise the huge thorium deposits in Kerala, India would not have to depend on outside sources for energy.]

For the last 30 years, India has been claiming that it has achieved success in burning thrioum or MOX (Mixed Oxide, a thorium-uranium mixture) in ints reactors. The US does not sell anything except reactors using enriched uranium. So forget any talk about using thorium. Indians have been busy increasing the population in the last thirty years rather than build a thorium reactor. Pretty much the same goes for the fast-breeder reactor for which they finally laid the foundaion stone a couple of months back. Or is it, drove the first nail through the coffin?

rshridhar,
T-e-P need not be a madrassah graduate. Their regular school book seems to a fair bit of indoctrination, as evident from Mahesh`s post on another board. Then he wobbles about akhand-bharat little realizing that most Indians thank their stars that we had partition.