F-16s to Pakistan—Why Now?

Re: # 142
calling me names will not get you anywhere. perhaps you should look around and see why i had to say what i did. control your fellow countrymen and it will not come to this. i was not the aggressor. i was just defending what i saw right. so stay out of this, otherwise my boot will be up your skinny ass as it already has been up your fellow baboons shri arjun and shri hashish`s. hahahaaa...

Folks,

Just thinking out aloud....There is one more angle to this that you guys have not considered.

The US does not like Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline being built. They don`t like it because thay do not want Iran to prosper.

Now, I don`t like it either but that is because I would hate to hand a weapon to country if it was filled with nutcases like t-e-p. However, if the country was filled with arrogant fools like Manto instead, I may be able to work together for mutual benefit. I may not like him personally, but I am sure I will find him to be honorable in his business dealings and will be able to have a decent working relationship with him. Also, please note that the Baglihar dam would have offered the necessay counter to the I-P-I running through Pakistan. Both these would have prevented the other from doing something stupid and was very self stabilizing.

Therefore, the IPI pipeline could have been mutually beneficial to all three countries Iran, Pakistan and India. But more so to Pakistan than most. Iran and India can continue thir relationship via LNG tankers as they have been doing or build an undersea pipeline bypassing Pakistan completely when it becomes technologically as well as economically viable.

The IPI pipeline was being considered to bring fuel to run Powerplants. There are other ways to increase our power producing capabilities....I would also like India to start building 1000 MW reactors and raise our nuke power producing capacity to 25,000 MW by 2012. At the rate we are going, we have mastered 550 MW reactor building, the first commercial one went critical in Trombay this year. We have several 220 MW reactors in operation. We are getting two 1000 MW Russian reactors by next year. This will raise our Nuke power producing capacity to about 5000 MW. We have a looooong way to go and the US knows that. So they are offering civilian Nuke Power reactors AND technology transfer for basically abandoning the I-P-I pipeline for now. But based on our prior relationship with the US, I am highly sceptical that they would indeed provide the kind of help we need in the Civilian Nuke Technology arena.

On the other hand, this deal that the US is offering to India will deal Pakistan a double whammy. Not only will there be a loss of revenue from the IPI pipeline, but they will also lose the leverage that it would have given them to counter Baghlihar.

This deal the US is offering is too good to be true. India should seriously consider this option.

CoolAL,
The benefits of the pipeline are a bit overrated. The price coated is so high that it was reported that most companies including Reliance are unwilling to pay. If the pipeline prospects are still alive, then its due to the stupid pertroleum minister of ours.

#144

Look we need a pipeline. It could be an undersea pipe line starting from Oman to Gujrat completely by passing Pakistan or a lind-pipeline between Iran and India through Pakistan. I believe it would cost around $5 billion which is more than double what it would cost to lay a pipe from the South Pars field in Iran, across Baluchistan and Sindh into Gujarat or Rajasthan.

The nice thing about the undersea pipeline is once we build it, then we can use it to get Gas from not only from Iran and Oman but also from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar,Iraq, Kuwait as well as The Central Asian Republics. Getting gas from CARs would require another land pipe-line across Iran to the southern Coast. That is an eminent possibility. If that happens the biggest losers in this game will be the Pakistanis. The US companies are playing a major role in building this pipeline so the US has a major say in this. The US-Iran relationship is the fly in the ointment here. If we can somehow broker a relationship between Iran and the US. It will be a tremendous victory for everyone. Listening to Clinton speak at Davos recently brings a lot of optimism regarding the US-Iran relationship.

CoolAL,
An added possibility could be undersea pipeline from Malaysia.

#147

Your gotta be kidding me.....Why would we even think of such a possibility? When we could easily run a land pipeline through Burma into Assam?

Also, do you really believe that SE Asia region has any potential for exporting gas to India? Assuming that they do have that kinda gas fields, why would they bother? They all border China and it will suck up what ever they can produce...

CoolAL,
SEAsians are good businessmen, so they would sell to both India and China. I dont think Myanmar has enough gas for all of India needs.

The idiot does not read my post properly, instead quotes another Pakistani idiot. The UN report does not mention 7500 casualities per day.

Accused in riot, killed in police firing, now a BJP-VHP martyr

As hundreds of villagers, BJP MP Jayaben Thakkar, local MLA Upendrasinh Gohil and VHP leaders watched, two Swaminarayan sadhus today unveiled the bust of Vakhatsinh Ramansinh Parmar in Desar.

The inscription on the marble plaque under the bust read: This memorial is to honour Ram Sevak Vakhatsinh Ramansinh Parmar who laid down his life in the attacks in retaliation to the killing of 58 karsevaks on the Sabarmati Express in Godhra on February 27, 2002. Parmar was killed in police firing on March 1, 2002, third Friday, Vikram Samvat, 2058.

Parmar was part of a mob that torched Muslim properties and attacked the police and he was named as an accused in the case. This is the first time in Gujarat that a riot accused has been publicly felicitated, though posthumously. The function, organised by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, was also attended by VHP�s Gujarat leaders, Arvindbhai Brahmbhatt and Vijaybhai Parnami.

According to police records, Parmar, 25, was among the two who were injured when the police opened fire to disperse a mob of around 400 who had attacked the police. The police was trying to stop them form torching Muslim properties. Parmar was injured and later died in a hospital. The complainant in the FIR was the PS in-charge PSI J J Choudhary who was transferred the day after it was filed.

The local MLA and MP did not find anything wrong in erecting a memorial for a mob leader in a village where Muslims form 30 per cent of the population. This is a fitting tribute to the youth for his sacrifices for the cause of Hindutva, said Thakkar.Accused in riot, killed in police firing, now a BJP-VHP martyr

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