A Journey Through Our Conscience

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Yeh jo chashm-e pur-aab hein donoN....




guess who is the poet?

#197 and #198:

looks like a turf fight

the point it highlights is once again women are being made a scapegoat and they have no recourse to justice

a point that sajal and other women have made many times and they are fleeced by obfuscation

the query remains:

where is justice for abused women

Re: hamidm:
``.... i don`t understand how that is a circular argument ...... both sides should refrain from quoting the book because the message is garbled and any one can quote it any which way they want ......... it is best to leave that stuff to angels and jinns and other such creatures - it has little use for men (and women) .......``

yet, some reinterpretationists insist Quran as Nuskha-e-Keemya which can be applied to anything and anyone under the sun And in the process these ppl. make a mulla out of themselves.


Sajal:
Dont be selective in owning Rasool-e-Pak`s words - he was apparently a kinda moody person. TEshah`s post is right on the money.

Orphan christain girls attacked in their hostel. Administrator`s stripped naked.

1. Ghazala Shafique, the administrator of the hostel reported that under police supervision, at the behest of one self-appointed Bishop Sadiq Daniel, George Bhattei, Zafar Iqbal, and ..(name not clear) 30/40 persons lay seige to the hostel.

2. They barged in and assaulted her and other girls.

3. later on she was stripped naked and paraded around.

She reported at a press conference in the presence of her husband Qadri shafiq kaNwal, Bishop Eijaz Naik and HR organisations.

4. When she called 15 ( emergency police #) the police & SHO of women police ( another Ghazala) provided protection to the assailants and continued their assaults even upon those who responded to help.

Police refused to register an FIR.

The victims have appealed the Federal, Provincial governments and Federal Justice department for intervention and propper action against Bishop George--who moves in very influential circles.

...Bishop George--who moves in very influential circles.....
Hmmmm!

So it is simply a matter of who owns the buffalo.

Hmmmmmmmmmm!

(and how much time we spent on intellectualising and maligning you-know-who)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

The news that never happened: At least not for the English-medium papers. Jang reported it hidden inside.

Not the way such news get reported when `moderation` and `enlightenment` ( nudge nudge wink wink) seeks fatwaas to be declared Halaal.

Summary in english will follow this post.

Hello chusni/echoboom

tea?

Urstruly:191

Amrita is right about the phrase: it should have been ``lying through their teeth
I missed that too in my ``edit`` posst.

`` KyooN mdh-e mehv-e khoob-i-yay taigh-e adaa naa thhay``--Faiz


It is a sickness to obsess & pine for the opposite sex. The advertising industry hass not yet discovered that. Backward b/astards.
Aag lagaa kay, aag bujhaa-ey.

Sickness:*
Orientation is no more a sickness, they`ve recently discovered
It`s the lingo that was perverted, it`s `normal` what was `wierd




Security*:
They put a pile of gold on the street with a warning notice
whoever thinks of stealing this, will soon be sent to police.

Jealousy:*
Women are always jealous of the other women`s looks
Men are jealous of the others` power and check books.

*all ``poetry`` composed impromptu, on-line, on-the-spot....by echoboom!

er... I have a question - why would someone lie ``TO`` their teeth? is this a new fad?

And sure women are sex objects - to men and lesbians.
But so too are men - to women and gays.
The problem comes in when that`s ALL that they are to you. In that case, you are a very sick person and have a number of un/diagnosed psychological problems which can possibly be rectified through therapy.

Re: # 190

I don`t get it; what is so sick about it that it needs therapy; It is the natural order of things.

Re: # 191

urstruly,

..........as amrita said you are a very sick person if you think of women as mere sex objects and ``that`s ALL that they are to you.``......... think about it - are there any women you know who are not sex objects for you ? .......... it is a loaded question, so be careful .....

echo:

damn north american work ethics, i don`t have the peace of mind to think of anything right now. will post good stuff from home.

temporal:

you were right. i found valuable things in the website. thanks.

nt sahib:

i already knew you have become a sheikh.

Re: # 189

MJ,

sorry I couldn`t access the answer-islam page through my ISP. Could you please copy and paste the response in question to me? I wish to ascertain which one is correct and validated.

thanks

experiment:
م نہیں ہوتا ہے آزادوں کو بیش از یک نفس
برق سے کرتے ہیں روشن شمعِ ماتم خانہ ہم

Urstruly:
Huzoor kee khidmat meiN

``hoantoaN pey kabhhee unn kay miraa naam bhhee aey``

aur

hUm sey khuul jaaO, bvqt-e mai pstee eik din
vrnaa hUm chharraiN gey rUkhh kay, uzre-mstee, eik din``

aur (nothing to do with previous two; this is `home-made`)

Drawing roomoaN sey, Lecture-haaloaN sey baahir Aao toa daikh loa gay naya zamana
kay kUl jo tuum ko paRRhha rahay thhay, voh mazmoo-N aakhir ko thhaa puraana.

sajal:178
good post there.

But! Please do not be so hard on Mr. Teshah.

This is an excerpt from his intro. Read the rest of it on his profile..it reveals a lot more
about the teshah [most likely a takhaluus of him: it means a pick-axe wrt Farhaad, a symbol of a futile toiling loborer in Urdu metaphor.. eg.. a communist in a capitalist (hostile) environment]

``I am a retired gov. servant. Reading, writing, computering and viewing T.V. etc. are my hobbies. But inspite of all that I feel lonely as my wife whom I considered my life-partener for over 30 years became my enemy No.1......``

please ``understand``.

Re # 157, Teshah,

see you assumed i was a man and i believe just like that you assume everything without knowing the facts.

I am a WOMAN and damn proud of it.


I suppose by your ``khetti`` you mean the same woman who has Jannat under her feet, who is seven times more exalted than a father.

Surah 30. Ar Rum Ayah 21

And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves
that you may find rest in them, and He put between you love and compassion;
most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect.

2:99. We have sent down to you such clear revelations, and only the wicked will reject them.

Allah informs us about the just rights of each other on us:

But, in accordance with justice, the wife`s rights (with regard to their
husbands) are equal to the (husband`s) rights with regard to them,
although men are a degree above them; and Allah is Almighty, Wise.
Qur`an [2 : 228]

The statement that men are a degree above women means that authority
within the household has been give to the husband in preference to the
wife because a heavier burden has been placed on his shoulders by
another verse of the Quran which says:


Men shall take full care of women, because Allah has given the one more
strength than the other, and because they support them from their means.
Qur`an [4 : 34]


Narrated Abu Huraira, God`s messenger said: ``The believers who show the
most perfect faith are those who have the best disposition and the best
of you are those who are best to their wives.`` [Tirmidhi]

Aisha has related that the Holy Prophet, peace be upon him, would enter
the house with a pleasing disposition and a smile on his lips.
[Uswa-i-Hasana]

Narrated Abdullah bin Amr bin Al-As: ``Allah`s Apostle, peace be upon
him, said, `O Abdullah! Have I not been informed that you fast all the
day and stand in prayer all night?` I said, `Yes, O Allah`s Apostle!` He
said, `Do not do that! Observe the fast sometimes and also leave them at
other times; stand up for the prayer at night and also sleep at night.
Your body has a right over you and your wife has a right over you.```
[Bukhari]

Narrated Ibn Umar: ``The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, `All of you
are guardians and are responsible for your wards. The ruler is a
guardian and the man is a guardian of his family; the lady is a guardian
who is responsible for her husband`s house and his offspring; and so all
of you are guardians and are responsible for your wards.```

House women wherever you reside, accoding to your circumstances, and do
not harass them in order to make life difficult for them. Qur`an [65 :
6]

Narrated Abu Masud Al-Ansari: ``The Prophet, peace be upon him, said,
`When a Muslim spends something on his family intending to receive
Allah`s reward, it is regarded as Sadqa (spending in the name of God)
for him.```

Islam gave woman the right to reject a marriage proposal free from
pressure and by mutual agreement to specify in the marriage contract
that she has the right to divorce. If she deems the marriage to have
failed beyond repair.

Islam does not require woman to change her name at marriage.

Islam protects the family and condemns the betrayal of marital
fidelity. It recognize only one type of family, husband and wife united
by authentic marriage contract.

``Heaven is at the feet of mothers`` is a basic Islamic teachings.


Your post is utter Rubbish and frankly even replying to it I feel insulted.

You can take you ``Guttar mentality`` and keep it where it belongs in your mind!!!!!!