A Journey Through Our Conscience

echo and t,

thansk guys, but no worries, i will not resort to cut/past unless really really necessary, it`s just that i had some poetry of ghalib in the form of urdu images which i wanted to put on my iLog and hence the need for that stuff. but seems like i still need to look for some online space to place my stuff their first.

kaalchakra,

thanks for the appreciation, butyou didn`t provide us a link for #128 ! really tragic...

and by the way guys, yesterday i was trying putting links on my own and i think i crashed chowk`s website in doing that, something i never wanted to do :-). i hope they would have fixed the vulneribility now.

hello.... testing....1.......2........3...

**** T`s example first ****

please don`t click

***** here`s echo`s example ******

click

this is supposed to be an image from bbc.com

malikjahazeb:
for posting pictures directly use < img src=``

rest is same:

Put mouse point on the urdu print or picture.
Right click.
copy image location.
paste image location. This is your URL.
Rest you know.

also: Visit my i-log page for complete Ghalib , Iqbal & many more Urdu books.

looking forward for your Ghalib & other stuff on your i-log.

echo,

i have tried to put an audio link on the ilog but for some reason, it doesn`t run directly from there. but takes you to the website.

hope you will like it.

career opportunities for transvestites, drag queens and nadas !

``ISLAMABAD, April 9: As many as 21 members of the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) have submitted a private members bill to the National Assembly Secretariat seeking punishment for those companies and individuals indulged in using women in advertisements. ``

sajal,
very nice writing.
you are right ,men in our society take women as their property and most ly ,women are raped to degrate and humiliate .I don`t think education will improve it .we need strong lagislation for that matter and severe punishment for culprits.Government is not serious about it for their own motives.

echo and T:

you gotta help me in this, i had been breaking my head against the walls. this is what i was doing:

1 - setup a free web space account of a humble 25 mb somewhere
2 - put my stuff there
3 - succeeded in locating the file from the top address bar of the browser
4 - put my image as a link in my iLog
5 - there appreas a red cross instead of the image
6 - if i try 3 again, the file opens in the browser and after that, successfully opens in iLog too. but if i reopen my chowk window, i again can`t see the image.

can you guys tell me of a reliable website which can link from chowk no matter what?

will be greatful even more....

echo and T:

if you try to open

http://www.malikjahanzeb.netfirms.com/poetry/SAKINAN.GIF

in a browser window, it opens

but it can`t link from iLog at chowk.

my latest suspition is that the website tries to open a pop-up and that messes things up.

malikjahanzeb sahib you write regarding romair`s post #118 (which hamidm sahib has cleverly ignored):

``hamidm uncle`s sis`s slap on the moulvi was actually something like `i am an inhabitant of this place since centuries and who are you to tell me how to live my life, you victom of paculiar arab imperialism, you kawwa-chala-hans-ki-chaal`.``

actualy malik sahib, i am willing to bet that if it were, lets say, an army guy in islamabad who had asked hamidm sahib`s respected sister the same thing, she would still never have assaulted him. i tend to agree with romair that that settling of a verbal argument via physical assault took place SOLELY because of the economic status of the religious person.

Slapping him on the face was a cost-free endeavor on hamidm`s respected sister`s part. Had she performed the same act in hamidm`s country, the USA, she would have been charged with battery and `assault to cause physical injury`. From what little I know of the law, this kind of assault carries upto 3 years in prison and upto $50,000 fine - depending on which state this incident occured. In addition, the agrieved party may also opt to sue the aggressor in which case it could result in even higher punitive damages.

So all in all, hamidm`s respected sister is lucky to be living in a country where wealthy people can slap others, and get away with it. Well off people engage in such activities quite frequently in Pakistan. This slapping is sometimes performed simply as an affirmation of status exercise on the part of well-off. It does not have to have a reason.

malik sb:

good one.

this time we will let hamidm uncle tackle this `banafs-e-nafees`.

Rape is much more than sexual gratification.Its intent is violence,which is perpetrated through sexual means and the impact is psychological and social more than physical.It is ``show of strength`` or ``imprinting the authority``on the victim or the family of the victim.In latter case,the female is actually the scapegoat and hence undergoes double trauma.

Lot of cases of rape and other forms of sexual harrassment are not reported for the fear of ``badnaami`` and often the victim is advised to keep shut even by the close relatives.In most cases there is literally no support from the closest relatives.

If reported,there is hardly any chance in countries like India and Pakistan to get justice and the laws are such that they do not help the victim.Even the justice delivery system is such that it ultimately helps the criminal.

Bribery,nepotism etc......go again in favour of criminals

Often the role of press and electronic media in such cases is not positive.

All these factors plus may be more,reinforce the idiom,``jiski laathi,uski bhains``.

This vicious cycle can only be broken by women`s resolve to fight out and an active movement at social level-they have to take the laathi in their hands and dont look for protection from males.

re: #92

temporal,

jazak-Allah-khair for your kindness!

:-)~

#137 by malikjahanzeb on April 10, 2005 10:27pm PT

Are you trying to post this?

RE: #99

Urstruly,

I`m heartened by your encouragement...jazak-Allah-khair. May Allah bless you with infinite knowledge and help us learn from you.

As for the Joe Hates Abdul Hates... I`m not too worried about their traps and name calling. Like you said, they deploy these tactics to stifle debate, which in my book means they`re out of arguments to slander Islam.

What scares me though, that in spite of their education, employment, and general experience of the real world, they have yet to put forth an intelligent question... forget about intelligent answers and solutions from these guys.

I was particularly surprised, shocked, amused, and depressed - all at once - by the post #104.

It reminded me a couple of verses from Akber Ilahabadi:

yun qatl se bachchon k wo budnaam na hota;
afsos k fir`aon ko college ki na soujhi
(now watch out for the brouhaha on ``college``...hahaha)

If one of my old colleagues could read some of their posts, he wouldn`t hesitate to declare: ``if they had half a brain, they`d be dangerous`` :-)~

If these are the hope of Pakistan`s future, then....I guess our children will have fun slicing away these old school seculars with their intelligence, like Ahmed Shah Abdali used to valiantly slice his way through enemy offenses and defences with his sword.

M`as-salaam

re: #109 & various similar ones


Let`s see what our rejectors of Quran (as sheer nonsense, concocted by an Arab (pbuh) in his kitchen) come up with as an excuse to continue their belligerent rejection.

Click the following link and read the article:

The Quran on Human Embryonic Development

This is just one of many. The last time I read a book on such scientific revelations in Quran was called 365 Miracles of Quran by Zia Qazi

Special thanks to my-echo & temporal-Joe-Hates-Abdul-Hates for fomatting tips...jazak-Allah-khair :-)~