Mr. Ahmed

Re: # 161
I will try . I will ask someone to bring a copy from India .And no, I dont think they are available in nastaliq.

Re: #146 by echoboom

[If a society can succeed, produce math wizards & three religions during five thousand years of its existence, in spite of muslim domination, then surely it must be doing something right.]

I think you need to look beyond these excellent Madrassa text-books.

Muhammad was born about 1400 years ago in 570 AD.

The exquisitely cultured muslim invaders started bringing their superior message of peace to the Indian sub-continent another couple of hundred years later.

The vedas were written MANY thousands of years ago.

Buddha was born in 563 BC.

Mahavira was born in 599 BC.

BC comes BEFORE AD.

If there is a booming echo, it’s between your two ears.

#153 Harishankar Parsayi is a great humorist and satirist.
There are others like Shrilal shukla, Ashok Chakradhar etc. but Parsayi is my favorite.

Raj Kapoor! Om Parkash and, if you are in a generous mood, Gope.

dost-mittar:
Thanks.
Yeah he certainly was a peer--a giant.
Now how about movies?

Ajeya:154
Achhaa ubb hUmm Laloo ho gaey? aur hUm ney yeh kahaa thha Pichhwaan sey?

Yaani Aap Pichhwaan huay.

what is this Laloo aur PichhwaaN. I hope they are not swear words in hindi, vrnaa millimeter kee khair naheeN.

Re: #152 by echoboom

[Bhaee aap bohut dray huay haiN aur kaaNp rahay haiN.]

That’s what Laloo said to Paswan before the elections.


[Insha-Bhagwaan phir baat hoagee.]

Is that a wish, or a prediction?

If you have read my earlier post, you would realize that there is nothing to talk about. I would not even LISTEN to anything someone like that has to say, forget about believe in it. To discuss something someone says, that person needs to have some respect and credibility in my eyes.


[mgar voh millimeter vali baat toa reh gaee]

Barbaric practices like hacking off the foreskin predates islam. It was a common practice long before God parachuted down on some mountain to whisper deep secrets to the Chosen One.

I guess I will have to pass up this circumcision thing, and give up an eternity with 72 houris. Or is it 73? Which is the holier number? I give up.

hamidm2:147
It is simply a humble token and acknowledgemnt of appreciation for your own contributions to keep me in stititches--otherwise I would have been running wild & naked here. ( some think I already do--they can see through me)

Do you know of any hindu comedian? Johnny lever doesn`t count--a Shaivite is not a propper hindu.

As writers Kanhayya Laal Kapoor & Fikr Taunsvee are known for their biting & bitter satire--never for humor.

Anyone?

Re: # 153

Peer Ratan Nath Sarshaar!

Ajeya: 150/151
Bhaee aap bohut dray huay haiN aur kaaNp rahay haiN. Insha-Bhagwaan phir baat hoagee.
mgar voh millimeter vali baat toa reh gaee.

Re: #149 by echoboom

[Retreat is not defeat--it is strategy.]

Even with a broom-handle sticking out?

Good strategy!

Heh, heh.

Re: #146 by echoboom

[Just when Ajeya thought that the going was good for him]

It’s not? Mommy!


[Please advise what to do with those hindu friends of mine who spare no effort to bad-mouth India simply to get invited to eat nihari & others anti-hindu delectables. They have also told me not to point out the meat-source. Now I`m no liberal, as you might have guessed by now.]

Do nothing. I eat everything. Including pork. Just goes to show that Hindus are much more likely to break free of age-old norms. Not that all Hindus should. Or need to. There is that kind of openness in our society. If they eat beef, nbody is going to excommunicate them or chase them up a tree to shoot them.

If an inanimate wooden cross or the stone at Mecca can be considered holy, then an animate thing like a cow can be considered holy as well. You don’t see it because of your limited intelligence and therefore, imagination.

[In fact they nod approvingly about the Quranic laws of Dhimmi-hood, wistfully remembering the days when the brahmans were king and the hindu-version of dhimmis was not restricted to mere four castes.]

If they nod wistfully then they are either:
1) Abject morons, which would explain them seeking out your company, or
2) Way smarter than you, and eating well at your expense.

By the way, have you ever heard them talking to each other when there are no muslims around? :-)

[when the brahmans were king]

Brahmans were never king, the Kshatriyas were. Most of them were also very poor. Except for the ones with royal patronage.

[the hindu-version of dhimmis was not restricted to mere four castes]

There was never a Hindu version of Dhimmis. The Parsees who fled islamic persecution and found refuge in India and the Jews were never looked down upon. That’s because they never destroyed/desecrated Hindu temples or forced anyone to convert. The Muslims created their own image in India (and the rest of the world).

AND REMEMBER! MANY HINDUS HAVE ALWAYS HAVE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST CASTE OPPRESSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE GUTSY PAKI SPEAK OUT PUBLICLY AGAINST THE CONCEPT OF DHIMMIS. THAT IT SHOULD BE ABOLISHED. AND THAT THE QURAN IS WRONG ON THIS.

THEIR LIFE INSURANCE PREMIUMS WOULD SKYROCKET VERY QUICKLY.

:-)

[Satis and kiryaa karams]

Sati was a social ill. Nothing to do with Hindu philosophy.

But stoning to death is in the Quran. Heh heh.
[Tell me, Ajeya, what to do with the Nehru type brahmins & even Gandhi-type non-brahmins who are more at home with muslims and were naver afraid of them. How come you fear muslims when they are not dominant anymore.]

I told you what to do with them above.

Why do I fear them even when they are not dominant?

Like I have mentioned before, the reason is that the vermin among them are too cowardly to fight out in the open. Because then, they ALWAYS lose. Instead, they are very good at deception and stabbing you in the back. Throwing a grenade from within a crowd etc.

This is why people have burglar alarms in their house. Not because they are afraid and the burglars are brave. It is because the burglars take advantage of one’s lack of preparedness. Face to face, in daylight, the burglar doen’t stand much of a chance. It’s their sneakiness and lowdown cowardliness that is the problem.

[You will always be safe when muslims are the rulers. Such is the natural order of things.

So it is, and so shall it be written.]

Without being more expicit, I would only say that one should always look to a person’s character before one even listens to, let alone believe in anything anybody has to say. And if you cannot believe, what have you got? A BIG NOTHING. That, my friend, is the basis for your existence.

Idiots will always have their heads in the sand, with their rear ends sticking up. And we will always be planting our boots deep inside their rear ends. Such is the natural order of things. So it is, and so shall it be written.

:-)

Ajeya:148
And with such impressive figures you are still not happy.

Of course India is prospering. You are simply expressing the obvious. It will be a sonay kee chRRyaa again ( golden goose--for the english-medium).

And the ones across from the Hindukush are already drooling; are in a frenzy trying to break-loose their tethers. Some of them have already crossed the durand-line & Mcmohan line. they have camaflouged the images & blurred the number on the Pak ID cards. Their second generation is day & night busy to produce the third one.

They have already conquered Pakistan.

Now they are getting restless & raring to go. Like hounds on a short leash, they are jumping on the front paws and snarling at musharraf.

Musharraf is trying to contain their frenzy:

Excerpt from the daily `` Zalalat`` april 23, 2005

`` Impatience is not a virtue, let your pot come to a boil first and let their pots fill up with more gold & $s. Today its only a bit over 3 trillion dollars,Ajeya says so--cuminseed in the mouth of a camel--(Oont kay munh meiN zeera). Won`t be enough for another 700 years at the rate you breed. Discount it for inflation too; the US $ is down!

Am I not doing enough U-turns? If I can do it once, can I not it again? Retreat is not defeat--it is strategy. Am I visiting my Nehr valee Haveli in vain? Have they not already promised me for its upkeep for the return of the native?

Braathraan! Their will comea time in the life of men when hindus will sieze the hindus and muslims will sieze the hindus, not in the secular sense, but in that long-awaited bear-hug which will eliminate all the difference in their anatomies. When..well you know, you have all been practicing that for a while on fellow lesser-muslims.

The hindu-coolies are hard at work and we must applaud & encourage them for the hard work they are doing for us. Let their temples become full and their hearts become weak for who does not know that with hoarded money comes insecurity, and insecurity leads to cowardice. It is not a hindu failing, it is a human failing. That is why muslims have been instructed never to save money and distribute it all within his lifetime, but who listens...

--no wonder the pot is not coming to a boil.``

Re: #146 by echoboom

[It is always the die-hard and practicing-types who always tell the truth.]

If you keep practicing, you will die hard one of these days. Maybe with a Indian Army broom handle lodged in your rear.


[First no `cure` should be sought]

Don’t you wish. But a cure has been sought. And found. For practicing types like you. The broom handle. Indian Army brand.

[and thirdly the tubes must be removed or kept at the individual`s or his friend`s/relative`s expense and discomfort.]

Huh?

[May the best Darwin`s monkey win!]

You are living with your head in the sand, my friend.

According to 2003 estimates, the purchasing power parities of India and Pakistan are as follows:

Indid - $3.033 trillion

Pakistan - $318 billion

Just for your reference, the numbers for USA and UK were in 2003:

USA - $10.99 trillion

UK - $1.666 trillion

(Source: The CIA World Factbook)

That was in 2003. This is 2005. Do your Madrassa-math. The gap with Pakistan will have widened further, and decreased further with the US. In the near future, India’s IT revenues alone will be greater than the entire GDP of the Land of the Pure.

Very soon, Pakistan will cease to even have a nuisance value for India. And the US will cease to be a protection for Pakistan. Musharraf recognizes this. That’s why he is in India currying favour. The remaining jehadi types like yourself will be scurrying back across the border to the promised land with broom handles bumping on the ground behind them.

And forget about winning. If you are dreaming of hordes of Indian Hindus converting over to Islam, you have another thought coming. India is getting more prosperouus. At the current rate of growth, by 2025, the number of people below the poverty line will be 10%. There goes your intellectual (and discerning) target audience. And hindus are increasingly more self-confident and assertive. Left-wing weenies like Stuka are increasingly in the minority.

IF YOU THINK THAT IT’S ONLY THE RSS/VHP TYPES WHO HARBOR GRIEVANCES, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.

There is a very deep, broad-based and abiding dislike for people of your ilk, amongst Hindus across the nation. This is why even opportunistic and conveniently-right-wing politician can make hay. Hindus remember all the insults heaped upon them through the ages. The mosques built out of temple stones are scattered all over the country. Even in Benaras and Mathura!

With increased prosperity, and self-confidence, this conciousness will become more vocal. There will be questions of formal apologies, and past wrongs that should be righted.

AND THEY SHOULD BE.

Why not forget the past, you ask? The past should be forgotten? Ever heard about affirmative action?

Without winged angels descending to give the Pure People a huge handicap, I would say things are not looking too good for you jehadi types.

Heh, heh, heh.

Ok Ok This 1:7 ratio theory if true, should make sense.

But where are the Seven hamidm2`s from the other side?
This disproves the theory.


and whoever wrote in that post that non-enforcement of the full-monty Quran is really THE problem.

TRUE!..for hindus! It is always the die-hard and practicing-types who always tell the truth. CHOWK is all the more richer because of them ( & me!). It is the human-right-activists from the Ba Ba blacksheep schools who allow the cancer within humans to linger and spread.
First no `cure` should be sought, secondly nobody should be on a respirator, and thirdly the tubes must be removed or kept at the individual`s or his friend`s/relative`s expense and discomfort.

May the best Darwin`s monkey win!


Meanwhile,
Just when Ajeya thought that the going was good for him:

aJeya:
Please advise what to do with those hindu friends of mine who spare no effort to bad-mouth India simply to get invited to eat nihari & others anti-hindu delectables. They have also told me not to point out the meat-source. Now I`m no liberal, as you might have guessed by now.

These hindus are unfraid of even the fundamentalist mullahs who are in majority in such gatherings. In fact they nod approvingly about the Quranic laws of Dhimmi-hood, wistfully remembering the days when the brahmans were king and the hindu-version of dhimmis was not restricted to mere four castes. When even a hindu-dhimmi had the privilege of having his own private pet sub-set of dhimmis.

AAH those were the days, these fair-colored and unfair-weather friends lamented, when they presided over Satis and kiryaa karams and had no time to dwell upon muslim killing fellow muslims. If a society can succeed, produce math wizards & three religions during five thousand years of its existence, in spite of muslim domination, then surely it must be doing something right. The theory of earth on the horns of a cow & its latest paradigm about a monkey swinging on the branch of every family tree has never ever interfered with any scientific & technical pursuit . It is these Brits who sowed the seeds of discord amongst us
and separated the Badriprashaad from Badruudeen.

`` Pehlay toa hUmm chhupp chhuup kar maass khaa laitay thhay, mgar yeh suusray dalit ubb naa hUmeiN janitor bnnai daitaiN haiN, naa hUmm sey phairay lgvaatay haiN. Adult relationship kau takhail naheeN bahu boltay haiN aur humaari mrzee kay binaa bijli kee machine meiN bhussUm ho jaatay haiN. Hae raam, iss sey toa musalmaan honaa achha.
kUM uz kUM uun kay mullah kee maanG toa hai--O meiN toa muslim honay chalaa:

`` Koi naee ko bulaaO, koi mullah ko puukaaro
Koi meri choti kaato, koi dhoti ko uutaaro

...........O meiN toa muslim honay chala``!

Tell me, Ajeya, what to do with the Nehru type brahmins & even Gandhi-type non-brahmins who are more at home with muslims and were naver afraid of them. How come you fear muslims when they are not dominant anymore.

Maybe it really is time that you invite afghans like Mr. tahmed back for dinner. The sudden love and respect for afghanis & iranians by hindus like you must have renewed that 700- year itch.

You will always be safe when muslims are the rulers. Such is the natural order of things.

So it is, and so shall it be written.

P.S: But a few millimeter of clipping of ``that`` would certain cure you of the fear of `first blood`. Please think about it. You can still be a closet hindu--like hamidm2.

Re: # 146

echo, i know i am going to hate myself for saying this, but your post did make me smile .......