Mr. Ahmed

Re: #97 by Thamizhan

[Well you have admitted here you are a coward and your hate is fueled by your cowardice.]

Okay you got me there. :-)

[We have enough trouble trying to change our image of being ``soft``.]

See, I wasn’t aware of such a program. :-)

[This image came about all cuz Hindus did not have a sense of common community and did not care what happens to other Hindus (comes from an individualistic belief system w/salvation depending on the individual).]

Umm really? Alrighty then. My anthropology professor messed up big time, dammit!

So all the Indian freedom fighters were just aberrations? And all the other people who participated? Did you know how much money was raised privately by communities (who are primarily Hindu) for the people maimed by the Kargil war? No, you were probably too busy in your romantic endeavours.

[We all die and using a cliche here--``its a matter of when and how``.]

Just make sure it’s not in Pakistan on top of a tree. When her family (and the rest of the village) is chasing you, don’t even look at trees. Head for the desert. Take a cactus-camouflage suit with you. Or maybe a camel-camouflage. Both have their advantages. With the camel camouflage, you can surreptitiosly keep inching towards the Indian border. With the cactus camouflage, nobody would be tempted to ride you, or make any overt sexual advances.

By the way, are you getting a circumcision and converting?

Because if you are not, read up the chapter in the Quran about what should be your fate. No mercy from Allah for you there, buddy.

And if you are converting, now who’s the coward?

:-)

#140

MaheshG2:

Before you post anything like this again, read this

http://www.dalitstan.org/journal/buddhism/bud000/gun_fod.html

regards,

haideri

Re: #138 by hamidm2 , #122 by tahmed32

[there are very few pakistanis i have seen come to chowk with the same attitude. and the few who do (like urstruly or ali) dont get other pakistanis jumping to defend them like i see indians doing. there is a cultural difference here.]

[......... i am beginning to see your point - our echoboom seems to be outnumbered by people of his ilk from the wrong side of the border .......... maybe it is simply a reflection of the population ratio - one wild eyed jihadi vs. seven crazed shiv sainiks]

I was about to say this myself. There’s the population ratio, as well as the ratio of people who have access to the computer and/or use the internet regularly.

#122 by tahmed32

[there is a cultural difference here.]

If I were you, I wouldn’t even go there.

I had a friend (hindu) from Burma who once who related a story to me. Every time there was some disturbance in Israel/Palestine, the local mullah would organize a protest march. One day he saw a few of his classmates in the procession. Later he asked some of them what the protest was all about. THEY DIDN’t EVEN KNOW. The very rumour that some muslim was being oppressed somewhere was good enough for them to be marching and screaming.

I would contrast that with hindus in India and the rest of the world. Most don’t even have a clue about Hindus being oppressed in places like say Fiji or Sri Lanka or Pakistan or Bangladesh or Afghanistan.

The Hornet’s Nest mentality is uniquely muslim (with the caveat of a few decent muslims).

Re: #134 by tahmed32

[So: In other words, your justification is that you are monkeying ali and echoboom. And thus trying your best to prove ali and echoboom are right by acting like a monkey. Brilliant!! You my friend are a genius.]

Thank you. I keep telling people that I am a genius. But nobody seems to listen. If only there were more perceptive types like yourself.

But to get back to your point.

The reference to “Paki butt” was to the Pakistani Army types who keep providing covering fire to jehadis crossing over. Or the ones that attacked at Kargil. Or those pakistanis that believe in proving “moral support” to the Kashmiris.

Maybe I could have been more explicit, but I was running late, and had to post in a hurry. “You ba$tards” and “you guys” also refer to people of echoboom’s ilk.

Same with “You muslims”, because I have seen people like echoboom and Urstruly say things like “One muslim is equivalent to ten hindus in a fight”. And echoboom was saying how hindus are cowards and scared to fight and might need a circumcision to remedy it.

Maybe the juxtaposition of the two sentences made it seem like I was referring to all Pakistanis. I was not.

As I said before, I have and had in the past many kind and thoughtful Pakistani friends.

This was a case of collateral damage.

It is not wonderful when you detach yourself from reality. You I am sure do not distinguish between people on the basis of religion - but you detach yourself from reality when you say that ``concept of judging people on the basis of their religion is lost on us.``

Tahmed sahib, this sounds really funny coming from you.

You are the one claiming Pakistanis do not hate as much as the Indians do. When

1) Pakistanis killed millions of their own countrymen.

2) Pakistan is an Islamic republic with non-muslims relegated to second class status.

3) Pakistan has a huge Jehadi culture with jehadi exports to all over the world.

4) Pakistani high school, middle school syllabus has references to how Hindus/Indians are bad.

If Indians are detached from reality then what about you?

DivisionBell #126: I think my friend that you are confusing arrogance with self-esteem, when in fact arrogance results from a LACK of self-esteem. It is wonderful that India is progressing so well nowadays. It is not wonderful when you detach yourself from reality. You I am sure do not distinguish between people on the basis of religion - but you detach yourself from reality when you say that ``concept of judging people on the basis of their religion is lost on us.`` Unfortunately it is not lost on you: see arstoo #128 to whom I just responded, and of course chowk is littered with such examples. And hindu extremism is a sad fact that you ignore as well - with national level leaders like Advani demonstrating their courage by demolishing ancient mosques, and others demonstrating their manhood by burning 12 year old girls to death on account of their being muslims.

I share your aspirations for people in south asia (Pakistanis and Indians and other nations) reaching a level of civilization that exists, for example, in the United States today where people can practice their respective faiths in dignity and without mobs bashing one another`s head. But that day has not yet arrived. It is people like you (who are to be found in india as well as pakistan) who are the hope of the future for all of us - but that does not mean you should close your eyes to the ugly realities that exist in these societies (indian or pakistani).

Re: # 136
good point,
Tahmed, this Farooq, is he a cousin of yours? Just wondering?

arstoo #128: So, now muslims are peaceful people, it is only the Quran that is evil. By now I am convinced that there is a secret factory in India where they produce specimen like you.

Re: # 135

tahmed,

......... i am beginning to see your point - our echoboom seems to be outnumbered by people of his ilk from the wrong side of the border .......... maybe it is simply a reflection of the population ratio - one wild eyed jihadi vs. seven crazed shiv sainiks

Re: # 135

Dear Tahmet,

Please counter my facts.

Thanks

Re: # 137

The fact is that no non-muslim should read the quran without a tafseer by Maulana tahmed32. :-)

Ajeya #129: In response to my suggestion to avoid using abusive language (you were calling all muslims ba$stards`` as you got carried away in the heat of your own rhetoric), you provide me with references from echoboom and ali where they call hindus monkeys.

So: In other words, your justification is that you are monkeying ali and echoboom. And thus trying your best to prove ali and echoboom are right by acting like a monkey. Brilliant!! You my friend are a genius.

Re: #106 by ali_1

[kala-kaloota, ugly, stinking Injun like yourself]
[I am sure both he and his camel will mount you from the rear togethr]


Actually I’m very fair. Definitely a lot fairer than most on the recent Paki cricket team. I got my fair complexion because I am a Brahmin by birth, and more Brahmins are fair-complexioned than not. That is because of thousands of years of marrying moslty within the caste.

The people of Indus Valley (currently Pakistan) were mostly not very fair. You more than likely got your fair complexion when the smelly barbarians along with their camels mounted your great-great…….great-grandmother from the rear together. And I say this not as a joke. It is the historic truth.

Just ask the geneticists.

:-)

P.S. There are many camel-jockeys that are very african looking and very dark. And many Iranians are dark as well. Even in the hallowed Saudi Royal family to whom you guys have perpetually offered your rear. Prince Bandar – looks like a lot of African blood.

Re: #106 by ali_1

[I can believe that there are racist Iranians and Arabs who look down upon Pakistanis]

Racist Iranians? You mean unlike YOU? Here’s this statement you made in the same post:

[absolutely refuse to believe that these same Iranians and Arabs would want to piss on the face of, let alone talk to a kala-kaloota, ugly, stinking Injun like yourself.]

Re: #106 by ali_1

[I can believe that there are racist Iranians and Arabs who look down upon Pakistanis]

Racist Iranians? You mean unlike YOU? Here’s this statement you made in the same post:

[absolutely refuse to believe that these same Iranians and Arabs would want to piss on the face of, let alone talk to a kala-kaloota, ugly, stinking Injun like yourself.]

Re: #79 by echoboom

[Where do I sign? and when do I take title of land of Kashmir & repatriate my brethren.?]

Down, boy, down. Never within your lifetime. Or your great-great-grandchildren’s.

Because, as always in history, Muslims would not honour the treaties they signed to never come in (eg. The treaty signed with Lord Mountbatten – the original Kashmir agreement that Jinnah signed), and they would start a neucleus of a settlement somewhere and start their usual inexorable expansion-oriented activities.


[But what will you do if more and more hindus convert, even after this, do I get more land
for a fresh crop of muslims ?]

With no Mullahs around, there would be no question of conversion.

Nobody would conceivably want to convert if they actually knew the facts that are ALWAYS obscured from potential converts.

Usually the people that convert are either famous people with some mental deficiency like Muhammad Ali (Alzheimer’s), or with brilliant minds like Mike Tyson. I hear that Islam is the fastest spreading religion amongst the black prison populations in America.

Anyone with an axe to grind against society is exploited to the hilt. In India and everywhere else. VERY few well-educated people convert.