Mr. Ahmed

Re #64 by Stuka

[Which is why you hate them. ]

No, I don’t hate them. I have several Pakistani and Iranian friends that are truly nice people. To say that people of any religion are bad is an obvious stupidity. But I am afraid. Just like many of them are. At least, I am willing to give them the benefit of doubt that the reason they keep silent is because they are afraid too.

[I don`t know about ``most`` Hindus]

Well I do. Overwhelming majority of Hindus I know and have met. As well as me. For example, I would never set foot in Bangladesh. And if I ever go to Pakistan (which will probably be never), I’ll try to go to places where mostly westernized people exist. I’m not taking chances.

[Well I do. Overwhelming majority of Hindus I know and have met. As well as me. For example, I would never set foot in Bangladesh. And if I ever go to Pakistan (which will probably be never), I’ll try to go to places where mostly westernized people exist. I’m not taking chances. ]

The you have met the wrong sample, the overwhelming majority of hindus I know have no qualms about going to BD or Pak, and harbour no such misgivings about Muslims. You assertion is aking to equating tha VHP to the whole of India. Please spare us the faulty reasoning.

Re #66 TheDivisionBell

[the overwhelming majority of hindus I know have no qualms about going to BD or Pak]

Are you Hindu? If not, they might not be so open to you.

In any case, I am telling you about my experience honestly. Both of my Hindu friends who introduced me to chowk are so $hit-scrared that they won`t post on Chowk. They say they need an Anonymizer software.

Americans I work with drop their voices if a Muslim passes by, if we are talking about something political. They don`t want any trouble, they tell me. And they are Americans living in America.

My family has been hounding me to stop posting on Chowk because of similar reasons. I might just do that.

Ajeya: you write ``For example, I would never set foot in Bangladesh. ``

Why not??

....When Muslims interact with infidels their instinct is to convert them....
#54:stuka
My proud unafraid-of-muslims hindu friend.

Truer words have seldom been uttered here.

But then every hindian tries to convince Pakistanis `` but we are the same, our ancestors were the same, we should be one in body and spirit.

Now who in human history has seen such a passionate love-affair. The deep desire to get anull the divorce, remarry but get screwed in the process by farangi priests.

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Let me ennunciate in clear plain language:

Pakistani Muslims` deep desire: All of Indians should be either muslim or come under muslim domination.

Indian Hindus` deep desire: All muslims should become Indians; no problem if they want to rule over hindus as long as they love India more than Islam.

This is almost axiomatic. There is no reason to debate & intellectualise it in arcane pol.sci/soc kind of Harvardese.

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Now there are two categories of people in either country who are completely oblivious to such Universititis hypnotitis.

The very poor: The farmer, the laborer, & the homeless etc etc.

They simply can`t afford.

The ones who can afford: The rich & the powerful
Their religion is money and power. Navaz sharif has/had no qualms making steel deals/contracts with Sikhs all around the world--even during Kargill. Bibi & Rajeev had no problem comparing notes as to how to keep their respectives mobs under control. So did Z.Bhutto/I. Gandhi ( alerting her: ``please don`t mind if I call you O maee, to placate my `masses``); the Smugglers/filmakers/ programme producers who collude & contrive to bilk the emotional & financial capital of the unwary `masses``.

The only group which loses sleep is the professional intellectual who get psychotic and worries about loss of job or tenure. If this hate furnace suddenly cools off what will become of their jobs. This wretched calss has not been prepared or trained to earn a living outside Instituitional environment or welfare. This is the class which despises & looksdown upon self-made millionaires & tries to compensate such a talent-deprivation by getting into
art-galleries, book-readings, and coffe-latte mocha kind of cheapskatery. Here they find some mutual-misery company seek comfort in massaging each others egos by dropping arcane & weird names of movies, books, and their most-recent perversion.

Once the world gets rid of intellecualism-for-hire, brains-for-rent, and wisdom-on-welfare
this world would be a garden of eden...or pretty close anyway.

[Note: as of all my rants; exaggeration is for effect & entertainment-- & ALSO for reaction]

Re #68 by tahmed32

Because there, even the liberal opposition party leader is not safe. Because she is not radical enough.

Nadia #63 I kind of enjoy the afghani naan and chapli kebabs myself. And the Afghan shopkeepers and all in Islamabad seem to be fine, normal people. As for the ``pashto speaking prostitutes``, I think the noun in that phrase is the problem, not the adjective (i.e. the fact the degradation of women that this ``oldest profession`` represents is the problem, not the fact that they are pashto or panjabi speaking).

HP,
About the cow products, I don`t think many people buy them. I mean one has to be nuts to buy a perfume of that kind, although I wouldn`t blame the seller, heck if it makes money I am ready to sell it too.

About the role of religion, as long as we don`t take it literally its a fine concept.

Ajeya: I visited Bangladesh a few times in the late 90`s, including places far removed from Dhaka. I found the people to be invariably friendly and non-threatening. Even met a mukti bahini leader who told me he fought six months against the pakistan army, and yet welcomed me with a hug like a brother and shared a meal with me to tell me how much he liked Pakistan. So, lets not give Bengalis a bad name for nothing.

.....so $hit-scrared that they won`t post on Chowk.......
#67 Ajeya

Such confessions in public are really undoing the fine work by your ministries. Even when your friends are -`shit-scared` please take some medicine before theypost here. Never admit even if you are scared. It makes the rabid elements among muslims bold and bloddthirsty.

Now imagine what a bad name have you brought to ALL hindus, just as Mr. Ahmed brought a bad name (Trivedi board--I`m now scared of that PhaDDay name) to ALL muslims.

But honestly a clipping of ` that` a few millimeter does eliminate the fear of the sight of `first blood` .

[can you laugh loudly now, without leaking...]

Re #69 by echoboom

[Indian Hindus` deep desire: All muslims should become Indians]

You could not be more wrong on this. You are dead wrong. Just because I said we have common ancestors does not mean that I want a reunification. VERY far from it. It would be hard for you to imagine how much relief it is to Hindus that there are less fanatics to worry about.

The problem that Indians now have is, how to control the remaining amount of cancer that is within us (by “cancer” I mean the inevitable 10% of population within the Muslims that is most rabid, vocal, and aggressive, and always dictates happenings in the Muslim world).

As I said in a post earlier, I would be willing to give over Kashmir, the land of my forefathers, to Pakistan, IF THEY PROMISE TO TAKE EVERY LAST MUSLIM FROM INDIA WITH THEM.

Yes, the good ones too, because they may have a son or a daughter that is rabid, or potentially rabid – just look at Osama and his family.

67,

Ajeya.

You hijras should stop clapping. They want you to be scared.

Americans lower their voice the same reason Indian and other secular citizens lower their voices. They are NOT afraid. They don`t want the PC police and the liberals and leftists, and the 5th colunm after them. And, muslims see it as a sign of cowardice.

There is a Punjabi saying, ``laj karenda andar wadya, natkhay kiha maithon darya.`` I think if you frankly discuss, it is better. When you shy away, it means more trouble for you.

95% of Hindus I talked to, in private, hate muslims, or think lowly of them, and vice versa. My two ears are witness to this. They use the choicest word for Muhammed. They lower the voice, or change the subject in presence of muslims.

Same thing with Pakis. I had friends who were from and Pakistan and Nepal. The Pakis would cuss the Hindus out. But, in the Nepalis` presence, they were buddy buddy.

The Pakis cussed Americans out during first Iraq war, and cheered the Iraqis and hoped they would kill Americans, when Americans were around, they did the drama of cheering Americans.

further to my post #71 below: i see zehra was merely quoting hamidm. damn. God made the apostrophe (````) for a reason, ms zehra. please use them next time you cut and paste.

#74 by echoboom

[Now imagine what a bad name have you brought to ALL hindus]

Hindus are afraid of sneaky lowlife backstabbers, slimy grenade throwers and houri-crazed homicide bombers.

Never afraid of face-to-face fight.

We always have, and always will kick Paki butt anywhere, anytime. The only thing that has saved you ba$tards so far is your sucking up to the US. Otherwise the Indian army would have rolled over you guys long time ago.

Have you noticed how you Muslims make it a habit to lose wars. To Israel, to India, and everyone else.

And no, I have to BJP/RSS/VHP affiliations.

#76 by kaurasch

You misunderstood.

...IF THEY PROMISE TO TAKE EVERY LAST MUSLIM FROM INDIA WITH THEM....
#75: Ajeya
Where do I sign? and when do I take title of land of Kashmir & repatriate my brethren.?

But what will you do if more and more hindus convert, even after this, do I get more land
for a fresh crop of muslims ?

Please let me sign on the dotted line, never mind the small print.

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You are the first true antiIndian I have met. Of course you do it as a do-gooder. You have undone years of harwork of your compatriots. If I were you I would watchout for Kaura`s kirpan more than a muslim`s tinka-in-his-daRRhee.

kaurasach: You seem to have lowlife as friends (i.e. people whose only topic of discussion is badmouthing those not present). But then, a man is known by the company he keeps...