Linking Poverty and Population

Re: # 27

i am well aware of the MKI and its capabilities. no doubt its a good fighter. i never denied that. however, i would take american technology any day over russian technology, which has stagnated (no one in their right mind can deny this) in comparison to the US. the F-16s pakistan will get (have no doubt about this. its only a matter of time. all attempts to block it have been effectively countered by the pakistani ambassador and the pakistani caucus on capitol hill. the indian lobby has lost. accept it) will be either the Block 52 plus (C/D), or the newest Block 60 (E/F), which were delivered to and manufactured exclusively for the UAE. there is talk either the saudis or the UAE may help pakistan finance this new beast should the americans be willing to sell it. its a $60 million dollar aircraft. there is still talk that it is possible. the block 60 has an active electronically scanning array (AESA) radar, which means it could detect the MKI even before it got in the air!! the MKI would be toast within seconds, as two AIM missiles come at it at the speed of sound. the F-16 is the original multi role aircraft. its world known to have unbelievable deep penetration capabilities without detection. all pilots who have flown the F-16 have said that they would not fly anything else.
i am aware that the MKI is being manufactured in india. its not a big deal. transfer of technology is common among allies. pakistan manufactures the latest french submarines and a host of other technology. its not new my friend. in the meantime, lose the inferiority complex. i know musharraf is friendly towards the indians. theres a reason he`s so well respected everywhere in the world. however, indians seem hell bent on turning his hospitality into renewed hostility. so spare me the lecture. i will be polite when indians learn to behave.

Re: # 28



``i know musharraf is friendly towards the indians. ``

thats the reason he orchestrated Kargil? His new found friendhip stems from changed geopolitical realities.

``theres a reason he`s so well respected everywhere in the world. ``

Do you know paks status before 911. Respected? His arms were twisted by Bush to become the frontline state. Can you imagine what would have happened of Pak if Mushy boy would not have agreed to Bushy. There would been no difference b/t pak and afghanistan. Mushy in order to save pak sacrified taliban.

Re: # 25

Oye, taqat......take it easy, brother.The elec. cuts i mentioned is a fact.There`s been a lot of load shedding going on in Karachi lately.Hopefully, the Saudis will fix it for karachi-ites.We all need to stay cool in summer!!.As for Mumbai......i got some pics for you.....cut and paste and enjoy!!...

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Re: 19.....Just had to say one thing about your continued comments on Pakistan`s ``greater geopolitical relevance`` in comparison to India. I hate to disappoint you mate but while the 80s US backed Afghan war against the ``red menace`` and the current ``war on terror`` on deranged jihadists across your tribal regions and Afghanistan again...plus all this hullabaloo about Central Asian oil withstanding..the reality is if you look at the fundamental shift in US policy towards engaging with and to some extent helping India become the regional superpower..that itself should logically tell which nation has greater geopolitical importance. Why...because inspite of the above reasons...the US is far more worried about a certain growing economic and (perhaps later military) collosus called China. A giant that is completely indemocratic and already causing massive trade deficits for the US...and India just happens to be a bit closer to the new ``red menace``......shares a huge border for that matter...and with other realities like the South-East Asian region eventually becoming the global economic hub..and India forming ever closer links with ASEAN...the results are even more obvious. The ``war on terror`` aint gonna last forever..and central asian energy while very important..could well be neutralisaed to some extent by genuine demand in developed nations for true alternative energy sources...and/or maybe as in the case for the US..a return to nucleur powered energy..which for its potential of rare high risk disasters..are extremely energy efficient. So my question is...when there is no hunt the fundo game on...and energy sources are more diversified...where does that leave your geo-political importance in the scheme of global relations.

The Nuclear Family Explosion

The hatemongers here should acknowledge their luck that thier parents did not drop them in a condom or obliterated them with spermicide or aborted them before they saw any form of light. And that luck does not entitle them to take away the last remaining right of the poor for his survival. Failure or success, the poor has to take this chance since all other alternatives have been barred on him.

Today if poor reduce reproduction globally, probably in just 2 generations there will be a global shortage of labour due to various other enviromental and social elements. Then again the people will have to be incented and encouraged to go forth and multiply exponentially to fulfill that requirement. Many European countries, N America, and Australia are faced with this problem as we speak. Hence, we witness an explosion of emigration incentives from these regions.

This family planning campaign has been forced by the historical hunters and gatherers (modern day Darwinians) of the mankind since WWII, and it is primarily based on greed. Agrarian societies could not survive without manpower. As it stands, even the contemporary industrial and capitalistic societies could not survive without the cheap labour within or abroad. Please study the emancipation of women and slaves in the West to find the correlation.

The growing poverty across the globe is not merely an abundance of ``oops`` by the 3rd World people of child bearing age, particularly Muslim. It is a corrupt design by the ones who create suburbs and ghettos right next to each other; who create one millionaire at the expense of a million people struggling to make ends meet; by the ones at the top who (despite the poor fiscal corporate perfomance) continue to enjoy ``perks, scheduled remuneration rises and bonuses`` whilst the people on assembly lines are laid-off and furloughed in droves to reduce ``expenses``.

The link between poverty and populations is just that of statistics... to hide the reality and perpetuate corruption. The real cause of poverty, and recently growing one at an alarming rate throughout the world, is not the growth of population. Instead it is the unbridled growth of corruption and hording.

The UN campaign is utterly misguided if not downright evil, to say the least. No one can keep humans from procreating - a God-given right for all. Free contraceptives run out after a while and increasingly the poor doesn`t have the resources to purchase more that would suffice his/her sexual ``needs``.

How fair is it of `haves` to demand of the poor to become celibate if he/she cannot afford birthcontrol, while they literally screw their lives away with the help of pills, creams, surgeries, books on how to attract the opposite sex and maximize sexual bliss, etc etc etc??? Then these people have the nerve to claim themselves as righteous, just, proponents of equal rights, purveyors of freedom, and blah blah blah.

Interestingly the UN or any national campaign does not mention the explosion of illegitmate births when asking people to reduce their populations. Because then they would have to put down the foot against the globally endemic and out of control illegitimate births due to pre-marital sex, extra-marital sex, incest, rapes of all kinds, and prostitution which includes the organized UN workers in different parts of the world. That would cramp a lot of lifestyles of the rich, famous, and corrupt in power.

Before anything else, this category must be curbed because it breeds irresponsibility, abortion, infantacide, child abuse, crime amongst youngsters, slave trade, and you name it. Because it breaks up the basic human insititution called Home. Not only the parents of these children, but communities at large and governments find it very difficult to care for these children so they sweep the issue under the rug. At best they fleetingly allude to it without prosposing any viable solutions. Muslims, Catholics, Hindus, everyone and anyone who suggests abstinence is either blasted or ignored.

How fair is it of the rich and ``enlightened`` ones to screw around like bunnies, produce illegitimate children by truck loads and then walk out on them with impunity; then turn around and demand that the poor should not breed Legitimately?

Even today, only the ``7th century Arabian Islam`` tackles this corruption most adeptly;-)~~ Its swift and severe punishment for irresponsible behavior, and rewards for taking on as much responsibility as humanly possible; i.e. out of wedlock sexual activity and marriage including polygamy respectively, maintain the balance in community. Many self-proclaimed ``liberals`` here, especially women, only cry about veils in Islam and remain silent when imbeciles assert that ``prostitutes are most liberal women`` and ``it (prostitution) is a human need``.

Secondly, most common folks including myself have become numb to the needs of the poor - either an individual or a nation - in lieu of our wants. For example, we find it difficult to sacrifice our entertainment just so a poor could be fed. We just talk the talk here, but seldom have the courage to put our money where out mouths are.

Be that as it may, religion [of which Islam is the only one that exists in its original form - the 7th century Arabian one ;-)~~] throughout the mankind history has been the only system to adress this problem effectively. It asks of people to just focus on their basic needs and learn to live within their means whilst sharing the rest of their resources with the less fortunate ones.

Instead first we reduced the religion - all of them - from a comprehensive communal way of life to merely a set of rituals performed privately by individauls in daily life and annually as communities. Then we adopted the habit to convert our frivolous wishes into ``MUST HAVE`` needs and seek loans and credits, and endlessly chase materials in a futile effort to live beyond our means. Soon enough most people find themselves sliding towards poverty due to resulting negative net worth. The ones on chowk may be the fortunate ones to have survived that, but their reality doesn`t apply to the global population.

Has anyone ever wondered why banks don`t offer credits to the unemployed - the ones who really deserve financial support? Because it`s not about offering conveniences or national economic growth. It is about swindling whatever little bit money employed can save or share with the family and less fortunate people. Such swindling is not only legal, but popularly accepted by the gullible masses so they could chase their materialistic dreams incognizant of the continuously changing nature of these as soon as the new models of sought out materials are dumped into the market.

Can anyone still challenge Allah on why He strictly forbade usury and strongly discourages loans until it`s a matter of life & death? And even then one should only borrow the minimum to survive on. Allah then vehemently stresses on the ones He has blessed to help the needy as much as possible and forego the loans if borrowers cannot pay back easily. He promises to reward such selfless and kind people, and reward He does.

We should be able to see the rewards of charity in our own lives. For a macro view, pick any well-to-do society regardless of religion or race, and we`ll find such acts of kindness of the haves with the poor enable the latter to fare well. Meanwhile, the former not only retain their wealth, in most case it continues to grow in many different forms. Consequently, the whole community thrives. It`s one of the Signs of Allah`s Greatness that a person can only see with the real eye - the mind.

Simply put, survival of people must take precedence over materialistic desires. Unfortunately, even a large majority of Muslims have deviated from this basic principle of Islam. Hence, we see the enormous poverty amongst Muslim countries, not that India and other 3rd world non-Muslim countries fare any better. Even in the advanced countries like US, UK, Australia the widening gap between the rich and poor continues to gain more momentum by day. Interestingly, most of the poor in these countries are non-whites ;-)~~

I hope the people who can read Urdu will find the article at the following link very educational in this context:

Bachay Kam Khoshaal Ghirana - Haqeeqat ya Afsana? (Family Planning - Fact or Fiction?)