America’s Frankenstein Monsters
Syed J Hussain May 10, 2005
#190 Posted by tahmed32 on May 15, 2005 11:37:23 am
HP: moi? a kindred soul with ntsyed the paper mouse!! surely you jest!!
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#189 Posted by HP on May 15, 2005 10:19:00 am
Re #184
“Proud of... neighbors? Hmmm…
If you`re implying that ALL women married to polygamous men are miserable and envy women married to monogamous men, then thank you for proving your ignorance expected of a western anti-Muslim mainstream media headlines addict.
OTOH, if you`re trying to slander the women happily married to polygamous men, then thank you for proving your degenerated nature of a drunkard.
Either way, your ill-informed political ugliness (read ignorance - jahiliya) shoves your own feet in your mouth in this respect. I`m sure you`ll find a kindred soul in tahmed-the 32yo-baby. “
This much response for just hinting at a possibility in four words! Something snapped… Hmmm…
#188 Posted by HP on May 15, 2005 9:21:56 am
#184 by ntsyed
Oh boy! I love to knock the cover off these fundo nut-balls!
It is hard for fundos to look beyond their noses or even understand what is being said.
Your post#178. you described some animal functions Has the mankind changed it`s innate behaviors, i.e. eating, sleeping, procreation, blah blah blah? I provided you example of animals in your own backyard.(Islamic brethren/mankind for you) I was being very polite by just mentioning Yemenis. I should have added Saudi, Syrian, Egyptians and more of those sex starved women and child molesters par excellence!
People get mugged and groped everywhere but only animals would do it in bunches and that too on the supposedly holiest day in Muslim calendar!
“How many car factories have the anti-``modern`` mullahs destroyed or sought/seek closure of?”
Only a wide-eyed would answer the question they way you did. You take the modern education away and factories would close. Promote Madarssa and people would be weaving cotton by hand. ( 7th century economic model!). So far you have failed in every test! No wonder it was hard for you to compete in an open society. Long live Saudia!
“Can you discern the context here? Who gives a hoot how many countries have the nuclear power plants? What difference does it make if anyone has it or not?”
As Richard Whately put it: “He who is unaware of his ignorance will be only misled by his knowledge.”
I am hypnotized by your sizzling logic, I can barely speak!
“The point my tun friend, is that if Iran wants to modernize herself,”
By shutting down its people from the modern thought and knowledge! Amazing logic! Simply amazing! The reality gap is just startling. Need an industrial-size plunger to shove that down the people`s throats.
#187 Posted by KaalChakra on May 15, 2005 7:02:54 am
SR, Avkrishna, Vivek, Romair
I am uncertain about how we are using the term `civilization.`
For clarification: How many of us would claim that New Zealand civilization, Australian civilization, American Civilization, and Canadian civilization are different from the European civilization?
I am uncertain about how we are using the term `civilization.`
For clarification: How many of us would claim that New Zealand civilization, Australian civilization, American Civilization, and Canadian civilization are different from the European civilization?
#186 Posted by ntsyed on May 15, 2005 6:21:39 am
Re: # 185
Good grief, what is the world coming to....a moderate foaming and seething? What a rare sight to behold...........lol
To help you with your amnesia, follow the link to see who hurls insult at who like a madman shouting abuse to strangers on street corners....once done, stuff another appendage of yours in your mouth, which is already stuffed with your feet...this prescription seems to be quite effective for you:
Adultery Anonymous: interacts 43 & 55 by tahmed32
My responses were 52 & 58 respectively.
I look forward to see you improve your contortionist skills ;-)~~
Good grief, what is the world coming to....a moderate foaming and seething? What a rare sight to behold...........lol
To help you with your amnesia, follow the link to see who hurls insult at who like a madman shouting abuse to strangers on street corners....once done, stuff another appendage of yours in your mouth, which is already stuffed with your feet...this prescription seems to be quite effective for you:
Adultery Anonymous: interacts 43 & 55 by tahmed32
My responses were 52 & 58 respectively.
I look forward to see you improve your contortionist skills ;-)~~
#185 Posted by tahmed32 on May 15, 2005 5:02:10 am
ntsyed: what kind of an animal are you?? a paper mouse? who squeaks insults from the safety of the internet like a madman shouting abuse to strangers on street corners?
i dont mind providing the rationale for anything i have written - or if i have said something wrong, i dont mind taking back what i said. So if you have a problem with anything i have written, cut and paste it and i will look at it. But, knowing you, i realize that is way beyond your intellectual capacity.
i dont mind providing the rationale for anything i have written - or if i have said something wrong, i dont mind taking back what i said. So if you have a problem with anything i have written, cut and paste it and i will look at it. But, knowing you, i realize that is way beyond your intellectual capacity.
#184 Posted by ntsyed on May 15, 2005 3:31:22 am
Re: # 182
Why animals need to be Islamized?
Because otherwise they become Pharoas, Goliaths, Hitlers, Sharons, GWB, Mushy, etc and their underlings like tahmed, hamidm2, and HP, to name just a few.
Why animals need to go to Hajj where Yemeni Muslim men are poking 50-70 years old women from behind!
Mr Political Science Heavyweight...one would expect you`d already knew that there are always the good, the bad, and the ugly in every society. Thus, there`s the concept of law, reward, punishment, justice, and what have you, to ensure security and prosperity for as many as possible. Still some will violate those codes, and they should be, and will be punished.
But by your standard, if one is mugged, groped, goosed in a NY subway (which is many times more frequent than the unsubstantiated incident you allege), he/she should never go to the annual conferences and events held in that city or even if Pope visits.
Want to know what modernization is? It is like having a factory to build cars and it is like having schools instead of Madarssa to educate your kids.
How many car factories have the anti-``modern`` mullahs destroyed or sought/seek closure of? How many do they prevent from establishing? The lack of foreign investment is not due to the mullah factor, they`re just being scapegoated becuase at least on the surface they denounce exploitation of women and entire culture. Instead its due to the unprecedented plundering by the ``democratic`` and military governments, especially since Mr. 10% and NS`s freezing of the $$ accounts after securing his and his loved one`s wealth.
How many schools have they shut down?
By that measure, the hypocrisy of some mullahs notwithstanding, what have the MODERNISTS done to ensure that children from all economic classes get proper education?
How have they maintained, let alone revived, the education in Pak?
I`ll tell you what one of the ``Renowned`` School System does... with over 100 branches throughout Pakistan, owned by someone very close to an ex-PM, makes sure that the tuition keeps rising and the payroll keeps falling. In one word it is called ``BUSINESS`` - at the expense of future. Rest assured, there are many more like them. The whole educational system is dominated by these fiends - from primary schools to post graduate institutions.
When you shut out the children and people with less money - Madarssa, cheap manual labour, or violence, beocme the only options for them to survive. What do you expect the people to do when you convert their God-given right into a privilege? Are they not even supposed to turn to God in the face of such wanton tyranny?
So who forces them out of education and which one(s) of the above options would have them choose?
BTW, if you had seen the inside of some madrassas lately, you couldn`t miss the physics, chemistry and computer labs. While reading/understanding Quran and hifz are more important to live and die with dignity, other aspects of this life are not ignored either. In fact, understanding of Quran allows them to live a content and peaceful life if left alone. Otherwise, as is the case today, they`re not afraid to die either becuase everything must end and until then they`d rather fight for their rights than to relinquish them. OTOH, the modernists are scared sh*tless at the mere thought of problems in life and inevitability of death.
You know what hypocrisy is? It is like sending your daughter to the med school but asking the rest to go to masjid and Madarssa!
Refer to the underlined question above (in the para before last) for the answer. It`s the gora mentality that you`re trying to superimpose on Muslims. With the convents and seminaries, they ensured the colonists and their loyal dogs got educated and the masses remained considerably less literate to maintain the status quo.
Typical Mullah logic. Do you even know how many countries have nuclear power plants?
lol...typical tun disoriented modernist illogic!
Can you discern the context here? Who gives a hoot how many countries have the nuclear power plants? What difference does it make if anyone has it or not?
The point my tun friend, is that if Iran wants to modernize herself, then why are numb-nut GWB`s and their progeny - namely you guys - trying to prevent that? Don`t you think they`ll create more jobs, produce more goods, provide better lifestyle for their people even if they develop nuclear weapon? The US, UK, France, Russia, and China are ample proof of that, aren`t they? Why don`t the Iranians have the same right? Still you contend that you`re not talking with both sides of your numbed (with alcohol) mouth?
Why they all are not being singled out? From South America to Asia and Africa to Europe numerous countries have nuclear power plants. Why only one country is a suspect?
Because my western-mainstream-media-indoctrinated friend, Iranian nuclear power plant checks the Israeli illegal expansionism; boosts her own economy which may very well invite labour from neighboring countries to help their economies; provide cheaper and more fluent energy to her own citizens as well as neighbors...I`m sure you can find multitude of other reasons that undermine the western hegemony in the region. The latter already has its hands full with China and rising Islamism across this region - not just ME.
Rest assured, in case you haven`t been up to date with IAEA and European reports, neither Iran possesses nuclear weapons now, nor does she have the capability to do so in the near future. Even if she did, she could not use it on anyone in this region. Just like the other nations with nuclear weapons, it will deter her enemies - mainly Israel and the West - from venturing into her sovereign territories and controlling her economy, politics, judiciary, social norm, mores, etc.
IRP has been murdering for the last twenty years it is time for some accounting! IRP initiated murders, killings and tortures, people are just getting back. All groups are completely justified in destroying the Murder inc. in Iran. More will join and hopefully govts that care for human rights will take out the murder Inc. from Iran.
Thank you for justifying the Palestinian, Chechen, Kashmiri, Afghani, Balochi, and Iraqi insurgencies as well as global anti-westernism since CIA, KGB, RAW, ISI, MI, and Mossad have been murdering much longer than last twenty years. Bagram and Gitmo, to name just a couple, are just the latest in that long sordid history - tip of the iceberg.
Also pertinent, your reasoning also proves Ruby Rigde, Waco, Tim McVeigh and ilk to be on the just side of the debacles. I hope you don`t suffer from tahmed and hamidm2`s selective amnesia on this issue.
Furthermore, the slaughter of Pakistani secular, fuedal, political and the NaPak military elite will be fully justified in lieu of at least 30 years of plundering and murders of the masses at the behest of western masters.
Do you still wish to stand by your comment? Or do you have the courage to correct yourself?
The truth of the matter is that the Darwinian west and its bastardized third-world hyphenated-pseudo-westerners (paki-american, paki-brit) are crying foul when the oppressed of the world, particularly the Muslims, are fighting back for their survival as the fittest. They (the disoriented-hyphenated-slaves) even resort to stealing trademark comments ``love america or leave it`` of the bigoted and racist Aryan Brothers, KKK, Skinheads and other such organizations....lol
Imagine that! If anyone has that right, it`s the Native Americans - not the gora encROACHErS, and certainly not his black and brown slaves. This hyphenated breed is just another form of wet-backs for the gora, but the former is loving it too lol
I hope soon there will be a law against such pathetic and insecure behavior.
You don’t know what good life is…
LOL....is that it? What a pathetic loser response. I was hoping you`d be better than that.
JSYK, by the Graces of the Almighty, I`m enjoying a very good mortal life with health and wealth of my large family. And I hope to have a 10x better eternal life with His Mercy, even if He places me at the bottom of the Paradise. But that concept seems quite foreign to you, so never you mind that part. Focus on twisting my words instead ;-)~~
Proud of... neighbors? Hmmm…
If you`re implying that ALL women married to polygamous men are miserable and envy women married to monogamous men, then thank you for proving your ignorance expected of a western anti-Muslim mainstream media headlines addict.
OTOH, if you`re trying to slander the women happily married to polygamous men, then thank you for proving your degenerated nature of a drunkard.
Either way, your ill-informed political ugliness (read ignorance - jahiliya) shoves your own feet in your mouth in this respect. I`m sure you`ll find a kindred soul in tahmed-the 32yo-baby.
Why animals need to be Islamized?
Because otherwise they become Pharoas, Goliaths, Hitlers, Sharons, GWB, Mushy, etc and their underlings like tahmed, hamidm2, and HP, to name just a few.
Why animals need to go to Hajj where Yemeni Muslim men are poking 50-70 years old women from behind!
Mr Political Science Heavyweight...one would expect you`d already knew that there are always the good, the bad, and the ugly in every society. Thus, there`s the concept of law, reward, punishment, justice, and what have you, to ensure security and prosperity for as many as possible. Still some will violate those codes, and they should be, and will be punished.
But by your standard, if one is mugged, groped, goosed in a NY subway (which is many times more frequent than the unsubstantiated incident you allege), he/she should never go to the annual conferences and events held in that city or even if Pope visits.
Want to know what modernization is? It is like having a factory to build cars and it is like having schools instead of Madarssa to educate your kids.
How many car factories have the anti-``modern`` mullahs destroyed or sought/seek closure of? How many do they prevent from establishing? The lack of foreign investment is not due to the mullah factor, they`re just being scapegoated becuase at least on the surface they denounce exploitation of women and entire culture. Instead its due to the unprecedented plundering by the ``democratic`` and military governments, especially since Mr. 10% and NS`s freezing of the $$ accounts after securing his and his loved one`s wealth.
How many schools have they shut down?
By that measure, the hypocrisy of some mullahs notwithstanding, what have the MODERNISTS done to ensure that children from all economic classes get proper education?
How have they maintained, let alone revived, the education in Pak?
I`ll tell you what one of the ``Renowned`` School System does... with over 100 branches throughout Pakistan, owned by someone very close to an ex-PM, makes sure that the tuition keeps rising and the payroll keeps falling. In one word it is called ``BUSINESS`` - at the expense of future. Rest assured, there are many more like them. The whole educational system is dominated by these fiends - from primary schools to post graduate institutions.
When you shut out the children and people with less money - Madarssa, cheap manual labour, or violence, beocme the only options for them to survive. What do you expect the people to do when you convert their God-given right into a privilege? Are they not even supposed to turn to God in the face of such wanton tyranny?
So who forces them out of education and which one(s) of the above options would have them choose?
BTW, if you had seen the inside of some madrassas lately, you couldn`t miss the physics, chemistry and computer labs. While reading/understanding Quran and hifz are more important to live and die with dignity, other aspects of this life are not ignored either. In fact, understanding of Quran allows them to live a content and peaceful life if left alone. Otherwise, as is the case today, they`re not afraid to die either becuase everything must end and until then they`d rather fight for their rights than to relinquish them. OTOH, the modernists are scared sh*tless at the mere thought of problems in life and inevitability of death.
You know what hypocrisy is? It is like sending your daughter to the med school but asking the rest to go to masjid and Madarssa!
Refer to the underlined question above (in the para before last) for the answer. It`s the gora mentality that you`re trying to superimpose on Muslims. With the convents and seminaries, they ensured the colonists and their loyal dogs got educated and the masses remained considerably less literate to maintain the status quo.
Typical Mullah logic. Do you even know how many countries have nuclear power plants?
lol...typical tun disoriented modernist illogic!
Can you discern the context here? Who gives a hoot how many countries have the nuclear power plants? What difference does it make if anyone has it or not?
The point my tun friend, is that if Iran wants to modernize herself, then why are numb-nut GWB`s and their progeny - namely you guys - trying to prevent that? Don`t you think they`ll create more jobs, produce more goods, provide better lifestyle for their people even if they develop nuclear weapon? The US, UK, France, Russia, and China are ample proof of that, aren`t they? Why don`t the Iranians have the same right? Still you contend that you`re not talking with both sides of your numbed (with alcohol) mouth?
Why they all are not being singled out? From South America to Asia and Africa to Europe numerous countries have nuclear power plants. Why only one country is a suspect?
Because my western-mainstream-media-indoctrinated friend, Iranian nuclear power plant checks the Israeli illegal expansionism; boosts her own economy which may very well invite labour from neighboring countries to help their economies; provide cheaper and more fluent energy to her own citizens as well as neighbors...I`m sure you can find multitude of other reasons that undermine the western hegemony in the region. The latter already has its hands full with China and rising Islamism across this region - not just ME.
Rest assured, in case you haven`t been up to date with IAEA and European reports, neither Iran possesses nuclear weapons now, nor does she have the capability to do so in the near future. Even if she did, she could not use it on anyone in this region. Just like the other nations with nuclear weapons, it will deter her enemies - mainly Israel and the West - from venturing into her sovereign territories and controlling her economy, politics, judiciary, social norm, mores, etc.
IRP has been murdering for the last twenty years it is time for some accounting! IRP initiated murders, killings and tortures, people are just getting back. All groups are completely justified in destroying the Murder inc. in Iran. More will join and hopefully govts that care for human rights will take out the murder Inc. from Iran.
Thank you for justifying the Palestinian, Chechen, Kashmiri, Afghani, Balochi, and Iraqi insurgencies as well as global anti-westernism since CIA, KGB, RAW, ISI, MI, and Mossad have been murdering much longer than last twenty years. Bagram and Gitmo, to name just a couple, are just the latest in that long sordid history - tip of the iceberg.
Also pertinent, your reasoning also proves Ruby Rigde, Waco, Tim McVeigh and ilk to be on the just side of the debacles. I hope you don`t suffer from tahmed and hamidm2`s selective amnesia on this issue.
Furthermore, the slaughter of Pakistani secular, fuedal, political and the NaPak military elite will be fully justified in lieu of at least 30 years of plundering and murders of the masses at the behest of western masters.
Do you still wish to stand by your comment? Or do you have the courage to correct yourself?
The truth of the matter is that the Darwinian west and its bastardized third-world hyphenated-pseudo-westerners (paki-american, paki-brit) are crying foul when the oppressed of the world, particularly the Muslims, are fighting back for their survival as the fittest. They (the disoriented-hyphenated-slaves) even resort to stealing trademark comments ``love america or leave it`` of the bigoted and racist Aryan Brothers, KKK, Skinheads and other such organizations....lol
Imagine that! If anyone has that right, it`s the Native Americans - not the gora encROACHErS, and certainly not his black and brown slaves. This hyphenated breed is just another form of wet-backs for the gora, but the former is loving it too lol
I hope soon there will be a law against such pathetic and insecure behavior.
You don’t know what good life is…
LOL....is that it? What a pathetic loser response. I was hoping you`d be better than that.
JSYK, by the Graces of the Almighty, I`m enjoying a very good mortal life with health and wealth of my large family. And I hope to have a 10x better eternal life with His Mercy, even if He places me at the bottom of the Paradise. But that concept seems quite foreign to you, so never you mind that part. Focus on twisting my words instead ;-)~~
Proud of... neighbors? Hmmm…
If you`re implying that ALL women married to polygamous men are miserable and envy women married to monogamous men, then thank you for proving your ignorance expected of a western anti-Muslim mainstream media headlines addict.
OTOH, if you`re trying to slander the women happily married to polygamous men, then thank you for proving your degenerated nature of a drunkard.
Either way, your ill-informed political ugliness (read ignorance - jahiliya) shoves your own feet in your mouth in this respect. I`m sure you`ll find a kindred soul in tahmed-the 32yo-baby.
#183 Posted by ntsyed on May 14, 2005 9:58:08 pm
Re: # 62
hamidm2:
............ i am glad you have come to the conclusion that iran is a better place to live than the us - but i am staying right here where my daughters are can go out without some bearded freak chasing them with a stick for showing a wisp of hair !.........
........... it is really amazing how some people`s better judgement is clouded by blind hatred !
You, Uncle Sam`s dearly slaved...sorry beloved,...hehehe, exemplify the last part of your statement better than anyone here.
what the heck is a ``supreme leader`` and how come an unelected ``council of guardians`` has to approve candidates running in the so called elections ????
Could anyone shed some light on whether ``Election Commision`` in the US or elsewhere is an elected body?
hamidm2:
............ i am glad you have come to the conclusion that iran is a better place to live than the us - but i am staying right here where my daughters are can go out without some bearded freak chasing them with a stick for showing a wisp of hair !.........
........... it is really amazing how some people`s better judgement is clouded by blind hatred !
You, Uncle Sam`s dearly slaved...sorry beloved,...hehehe, exemplify the last part of your statement better than anyone here.
what the heck is a ``supreme leader`` and how come an unelected ``council of guardians`` has to approve candidates running in the so called elections ????
Could anyone shed some light on whether ``Election Commision`` in the US or elsewhere is an elected body?
#182 Posted by HP on May 14, 2005 4:15:34 pm
#178 by ntsyed
ntsyed
Having hard time swallowing…the truth!
“Has the mankind changed it`s innate behaviors, i.e. eating, sleeping, procreation, blah blah blah”
NO!
Why animals need to be Islamized? Why animals need to go to Hajj where Yemeni Muslim men are poking 50-70 years old women from behind! Why these animals need to be taught anything. Just let them go around and around the Big black stone like bulls with eyes covered.
Want to know what modernization is? It is like having a factory to build cars and it is like having schools instead of Madarssa to educate your kids.
You know what hypocrisy is? It is like sending your daughter to the med school but asking the rest to go to masjid and Madarssa!
“With one side of their mouths these Chalabis (read jalebees) claim the Muslims do not wish to modernize, from the other side they bark that Iran should not modernize her energy source with a nuclear power plant.”
Typical Mullah logic. Do you even know how many countries have nuclear power plants? Why they all are not being singled out? From South America to Asia and Africa to Europe numerous countries have nuclear power plants. Why only one country is a suspect?
“MK is justified in its attacks against IPR, but IPR is unjustified in retaliation. WOW”
IRP has been murdering for the last twenty years it is time for some accounting! IRP initiated murders, killings and tortures, people are just getting back. All groups are completely justified in destroying the Murder inc. in Iran. More will join and hopefully govts that care for human rights will take out the murder Inc. from Iran.
“These people are nothing more than headline nerds without a children, wife, and life...sitting at chowk desperately seeking lazy susans with their undefined modernity,”
You don’t know what good life is…
“At least us polygmous mullahs with lots of children have fuller lives...and the wives are damn proud of it too ;-)~~
Proud of... neighbors? Hmmm…
#180 Posted by avkrishna on May 14, 2005 1:31:04 pm
# 178, # 179 # Romair:
Actually I take back my interpretation of what you said. I agree with your statement when you compared India with Europe. I realized that what I said to India applies equally well to Europe.
SR, Ntsyed: Thanks for quickly pointing it out...
Anyways, interesting discussion from everyone about the definition of civilization..
- Avkrishna
Actually I take back my interpretation of what you said. I agree with your statement when you compared India with Europe. I realized that what I said to India applies equally well to Europe.
SR, Ntsyed: Thanks for quickly pointing it out...
Anyways, interesting discussion from everyone about the definition of civilization..
- Avkrishna
#179 Posted by SR on May 14, 2005 1:23:59 pm
India is not like Europe, or is it? Re: # 175
{``... Hindu civilizations is a geographical continuum... very much linked to the neighbour[s].
So ... a punjabi [has] nothing in common with a Tamilian... But ... a lot in common with a person from the neighbouring ... states who have a lot in common with the ... Deccan ... who have a lot in common with the southern regions....etc ``}
European civilizations is a geographical continuum very much linked to the neighbours.
So a Dane has nothing in common with a Portugese... But ... a lot in common with a person from the neighbouring ...states who have a lot in common with the ...French who have a lot in common with the southern regions...etc.
...SR
{``... Hindu civilizations is a geographical continuum... very much linked to the neighbour[s].
So ... a punjabi [has] nothing in common with a Tamilian... But ... a lot in common with a person from the neighbouring ... states who have a lot in common with the ... Deccan ... who have a lot in common with the southern regions....etc ``}
European civilizations is a geographical continuum very much linked to the neighbours.
So a Dane has nothing in common with a Portugese... But ... a lot in common with a person from the neighbouring ...states who have a lot in common with the ...French who have a lot in common with the southern regions...etc.
...SR
#178 Posted by ntsyed on May 14, 2005 1:07:23 pm
Re: # 32
What are these HP, tahmed32, hamidm2 and ilk are referring to as ``modernizations`` anyway?
Has the mankind changed it`s innate behaviors, i.e. eating, sleeping, procreation, blah blah blah?
NO.
So, what needs to be modernized? I think we should let our Modernized folks explain to us, and watch them trip over their tongues. Come on boys, let it out and be ready to have it all shoved back in.
I`m sure it`s an endless list that our over enthusiastic, brainwashed, ethnocentric, xenophobic, warmongering, narcissist, inebriated ``Khan Bahadurs, Good Doggies`` can provide in no time.
Technologcially though, they`re proud that US is throwing a little more dog biscuits in the form of ``Call Center Outsourcing`` because ... ``ambitious`` Pakistanis (if only they knew him personally) managed to produce cheaper labour than others. That`s right, these doggies have finally accepted, albeit with ``be-ghairti``, that they`re more expendable than other third world countries.
How well do you know PSEB?
What about Pak Planning Commission...do you have any clue what kind of tech ideas and plans they`re sitting on?
How many incubators - tech and mixed use - do you see propping up in Pak? TMT, the most famous in KHI has yet to graduate a client, and it`s a for-profit tech incubator. And incubators are economic catalysts to boost the economy.
How many R&D institutions have you seen in Pak and what is the mushy/shauki govt doing to promote them?
With one side of their mouths these Chalabis (read jalebees) claim the Muslims do not wish to modernize, from the other side they bark that Iran should not modernize her energy source with a nuclear power plant.
MK is justified in its attacks against IPR, but IPR is unjustified in retaliation. WOW
Get your act together intellectually constipated Mr. Political Shittists.... Uncle is fixin` to give you a couple of straight shots (right in the head if he take pity on ya) as soon as your fleas infested coats are not worth wiping his shoes on....just like they did on Pinochet, Saddam, Manuel Noriega, etc
These people are nothing more than headline nerds without a children, wife, and life...sitting at chowk desperately seeking lazy susans with their undefined modernity, no direction whatsoever except what the Uncle dictates, and utterly void of logic, rationale, and common sense....all they know is spreading hatred against anything Muslim/Islamic while accusing the mullahs of the same.
At least us polygmous mullahs with lots of children have fuller lives...and the wives are damn proud of it too ;-)~~
tahmed, do you feel like going somewhere again.... to check if monogamous marriages are legitmized adultery or not? LOL
What are these HP, tahmed32, hamidm2 and ilk are referring to as ``modernizations`` anyway?
Has the mankind changed it`s innate behaviors, i.e. eating, sleeping, procreation, blah blah blah?
NO.
So, what needs to be modernized? I think we should let our Modernized folks explain to us, and watch them trip over their tongues. Come on boys, let it out and be ready to have it all shoved back in.
I`m sure it`s an endless list that our over enthusiastic, brainwashed, ethnocentric, xenophobic, warmongering, narcissist, inebriated ``Khan Bahadurs, Good Doggies`` can provide in no time.
Technologcially though, they`re proud that US is throwing a little more dog biscuits in the form of ``Call Center Outsourcing`` because ... ``ambitious`` Pakistanis (if only they knew him personally) managed to produce cheaper labour than others. That`s right, these doggies have finally accepted, albeit with ``be-ghairti``, that they`re more expendable than other third world countries.
How well do you know PSEB?
What about Pak Planning Commission...do you have any clue what kind of tech ideas and plans they`re sitting on?
How many incubators - tech and mixed use - do you see propping up in Pak? TMT, the most famous in KHI has yet to graduate a client, and it`s a for-profit tech incubator. And incubators are economic catalysts to boost the economy.
How many R&D institutions have you seen in Pak and what is the mushy/shauki govt doing to promote them?
With one side of their mouths these Chalabis (read jalebees) claim the Muslims do not wish to modernize, from the other side they bark that Iran should not modernize her energy source with a nuclear power plant.
MK is justified in its attacks against IPR, but IPR is unjustified in retaliation. WOW
Get your act together intellectually constipated Mr. Political Shittists.... Uncle is fixin` to give you a couple of straight shots (right in the head if he take pity on ya) as soon as your fleas infested coats are not worth wiping his shoes on....just like they did on Pinochet, Saddam, Manuel Noriega, etc
These people are nothing more than headline nerds without a children, wife, and life...sitting at chowk desperately seeking lazy susans with their undefined modernity, no direction whatsoever except what the Uncle dictates, and utterly void of logic, rationale, and common sense....all they know is spreading hatred against anything Muslim/Islamic while accusing the mullahs of the same.
At least us polygmous mullahs with lots of children have fuller lives...and the wives are damn proud of it too ;-)~~
tahmed, do you feel like going somewhere again.... to check if monogamous marriages are legitmized adultery or not? LOL
#177 Posted by vivek on May 14, 2005 9:18:26 am
#175 by avkrishna,
``as a punjabi, have nothing in common with a Tamilian you are right.``
Not true. Most of the cultural aspects of a punjabi and a tamilian are the same. India is one culture and one civilization. Sure there are variations from one part to another, but most of the things are the same. A german and a spaniard cannot understand each other`s language either, but doesn`t mean that they are not part of the same civilization.
``as a punjabi, have nothing in common with a Tamilian you are right.``
Not true. Most of the cultural aspects of a punjabi and a tamilian are the same. India is one culture and one civilization. Sure there are variations from one part to another, but most of the things are the same. A german and a spaniard cannot understand each other`s language either, but doesn`t mean that they are not part of the same civilization.
#176 Posted by echoboom on May 14, 2005 7:53:23 am
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#175 Posted by avkrishna on May 14, 2005 7:04:44 am
# Romair 171
````And as I have been arguing, so does the, ``Hindu`` civilization. South Asia, alone, may have upto fifteen civilizations. It is like Europe. Not like USA. USA being one civilization, with one majority religion. While Europe is multiple civilizations with one majority religion.````
No, it is not. Hindu civilization might have some elements of diversity in it and one may call them ``sub civilizations``, but there are a few solid binding forces which run through all of them..
The gods we pray, the reverence all Hindus have to places from Manasarovar to Kedarnath to Kasi to Tirupathi to Rameswaram, the langauage which influences and holds all of us (i.e. Sanskrit) etc. are the binding forces I have talked about.
In fact, Hindu civilizations is a geographical continuum of these sub-civilizations which are very much linked to the neighbouring ones.
So when you say you, as a punjabi, have nothing in common with a Tamilian you are right. But you have a lot in common with a person from the neighbouring Hindi speaking states who have a lot in common with the central Deccan states who have a lot in common with the southern regions....
Thanks,
Avkrishna
````And as I have been arguing, so does the, ``Hindu`` civilization. South Asia, alone, may have upto fifteen civilizations. It is like Europe. Not like USA. USA being one civilization, with one majority religion. While Europe is multiple civilizations with one majority religion.````
No, it is not. Hindu civilization might have some elements of diversity in it and one may call them ``sub civilizations``, but there are a few solid binding forces which run through all of them..
The gods we pray, the reverence all Hindus have to places from Manasarovar to Kedarnath to Kasi to Tirupathi to Rameswaram, the langauage which influences and holds all of us (i.e. Sanskrit) etc. are the binding forces I have talked about.
In fact, Hindu civilizations is a geographical continuum of these sub-civilizations which are very much linked to the neighbouring ones.
So when you say you, as a punjabi, have nothing in common with a Tamilian you are right. But you have a lot in common with a person from the neighbouring Hindi speaking states who have a lot in common with the central Deccan states who have a lot in common with the southern regions....
Thanks,
Avkrishna
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