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Dusk

Ozer Khalid May 12, 2005

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#51 Posted by hamidm2 on May 14, 2005 11:14:45 am
........ i will bet you a dollar to a donut that ozerkhalid, moazmmudasr, husnaamglique, sul and sarahhashwani are one and the same person !!!! ........

.......... if not, and there are actually five people like that in the world, then we are in much bigger trouble than we thought !!!
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#50 Posted by avkrishna on May 14, 2005 9:19:51 am
# hamidm various:

My sentiments exactly. What`s with all this lingo and jargon? The only thing I got out of this is that this guy has a good vocab.. nothing more than that..

Or maybe we dont get it.. This is probably the lingo of the next gen... or the lingo of frat boys who never grew up ..

Thanks,
Avkrishna
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#49 Posted by hamidm2 on May 14, 2005 4:12:48 am
chowk staff,

please take this article(?) off the front page and bury it where it doesn`t see the light of day !........... it is really bothering me .......... if you don`t take it off, i will boycott the chowk for at least forty eight hours !!

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#48 Posted by hamidm2 on May 14, 2005 4:08:09 am
and to think that i almost missed this ``masterpiece``! ......... so let`s take it from the start :

Dusk prays for me to transform. .......... what dusk and transfor from what to what ?

he suited and booted waltz into plush watering holes. ....... okay, but it is hard to imagine people waltzing after a long day

Afternoon drinkers sprinkle out like temporal confetti quizzically pondering “where now?”. .......... what the heck is ``temporal`` cofetti ?

........Seasoned playas pimp chrome hydraulics down zebra crossings. ........ this is truly baffling even to me who knows all about playas, chrome and hydraulics !

Tourists stir their souls with titillation at the ringing bells of Big Ben. .......... sounds silly - i don`t remember being titillated by a clock

“Usher-ishly caught up” in the ephemeral. All are blind as bats. Everything falls quicker than MartiKa’s Toy Soldiers. ......... i have no idea what usher-ishly is unless we are taling about the band usher - even then it doesn`t make any sense !............ and even though i am one of the three people in the world who knows martika i don`t see the see the connection with drug addiction ........

.............. okay, maybe i am a fool who wasted all those years in college ... so i will read the next paragraph and try to make some sense out of this idiotic piece of trash ........
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#47 Posted by BeeJay on May 14, 2005 3:48:26 am
#39
Okay, Ozer, I withdraw my suspicions. Hope no offence is taken! Others are obviously more familiar with your work than I am.

Regarding detective characters being dead, you are all aware that in the virtual world, ``people`` NEVER die! (Sometimes, they never even live.) No search warrants are ever needed! I believe that (as I explained) some of what I described appeared suspicious and I doubt that I was the only one with those questions (although it is possible) but unlike others, I do not hesitate to ask. You will be surprised how far such a little bit of skepticism (or ``ineptitude`` as you phrase it) can go in life, instead of the lofty heights that you guys (no gender implied) seem to hover around at! (Okay, I ADMIT. I NEVER READ SARTRE AND I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT EXISTENTIALISM MEANS OTHER THAN ITS LITERAL MEANING.) Also, I try not to INTENTIONALLY insult people (perhaps something that SOME others could learn from)!

I also think that (from my point of view, and perhaps from that of others, who knows) a lot of this stuff doesn`t really ``get`` anywhere, because the primary or basic audience (or perhaps, from your point of view - the ``base`` audience) simply doesn`t ``get`` it!

Your point about ``spending too much`` time on chowk may be legitimate, though! Chowk is highly habit-forming! Again, I doubt I am the only one. MANY others can beat me by a mile!

#41
Tahmed, what is this thing with you and the ``accent``? It comes and goes!




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#46 Posted by hamidm2 on May 14, 2005 3:43:56 am
........ and this is really precious !

``This is an incredible piece of poetry ! It reveals a soul trapped in the confines of modernity trying to emerge out of its flames. It has a leftist/Marxist undertone with a nihilistic/Kafkaesque view toward society. ``

............ the man brings along his own grovelling fan club !!!
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#45 Posted by hamidm2 on May 14, 2005 3:39:34 am
......... just to make sure i wasn`t missing anything - eye of the beholder, and all that - i read this this .. whatever again .......... and again, i reached the same conclusion - it is a piece of garbage !

``Let these silicone, corduroyed Sloanie crusaders take on the world’s troubles like Bruce Almighty. They will suffer amnesia the moment they pounce back to their prized zip codes, mistresses and Chardonnay. Their Polaroid anorexic snapshot existences will click away without a flash. ``

....... let`s assume the reader doesn`t know anything about sloanie, bruce almighty, zp codes, chardonnay or polariod - now explain this !.......... and who the f*&k is bruce ?
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#44 Posted by hamidm2 on May 14, 2005 3:15:02 am
......... i guess it is up to me to say the unsayable ........

......... this is a piece of contrived gibberish or a cruel hoax !............ the author (if you can call him that ) perposefully sat down to conjur up painful sentences that appear to be profound but are really quite meaningless - kind of like imagining all kinds of shapes and faces in fluffy clouds ............ total and complete nonsense !

.......... i call this the homi bhabha school of thoughtlessness which assumes that the reader is a moron who will be so awed by the complexity and apparent profundity that he/she will fail to see through the crap ......... awful and contrived nonsense!
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#43 Posted by drlokraj on May 14, 2005 2:57:10 am
#39,Dear Ozer,
This piece is like a beautiful poem or a painting.I just enjoyed very bit of it without bothering my head in trying to figure out which school of thought/philosophy it depicts.....like the old saying,``aam khao,peR kyoN gintay ho?``
But ,I admit,Sartre and the Existentialism did flash in my mind for a second.
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#41 Posted by tahmed32 on May 13, 2005 11:36:48 pm
Beejay #38 You are a very suspeecious man. You should be a detective - with Peter Sellers dead, perhaps you cooood bee ze new Inspectir Clouseau. Here ees your first case: it is 2:30 am where I am right now, and I am on chowk. hmmmmm....verrry suspeecious. Geeet your detective`s magnifying glass and start looking for clues.
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#42 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 14, 2005 2:33:46 am
Re: # 41

T Ahmed

Your post is hillarious. Zer iz one diferunce: Inspecteur Clouseau waz gud in hiz profession. Beejay iz onlyyy beginur

T Ahmed: your take on this article ?
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#38 Posted by BeeJay on May 13, 2005 3:57:53 pm

Although I don’t understand many of the things you wrote in your article, I do have a couple of simple (earthy) questions and am curious.

(1) I notice that a whole bunch of previously unknown new interactors have popped up on Chowk. Looking at their pages, they all joined during the second week of May 2005. They (practically exist to) only interact on your article(s), and they do so very vigorously, with you as well as with each other! How come they know you so intimately (since you are supposedly a newcomer and so are they, or have they all known you previously, are these existing fans of yours)?

(2) How come these interactors are able to read your thoughts so closely (they appear to be SOME fans), sometimes it appears that even before you have fully articulated those thoughts yourself? They also have a very similar style of interaction (for example, each one would post 2-3 interactions at one time, within minutes). (If one were not to look at the names, it may even become impossible to distinguish between which ones are yours and which ones are theirs, because everyone talks using very similarly abstract lingo (“abstract” to me, I mean. I am sure there are many Chowkies for whom this is not abstract at all, in fact may even be ``child’s play``!).)

(3) How come both you and these interactors are always awake at the most unusual hours of the day/night and the responses can come within minutes of each other?

Thank you for your time in providing a simple explanation (I am sure there must be one, even though I am not able to “get” it)!


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#40 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 13, 2005 7:37:39 pm
Re: # 38

Beejay

It seems you have a lot of spare time on your hands and that Iam going through some kind of police interrogation !! Problem is you are entering without a search warrant with grotesque ineptitude. Anyways I need to justify nothing to you, but out of kindness, and since I have nothing to hide, I will adress your suspicions/queries/questions one by one:

1. ONLY two of the interactors, are personal friends of mine, and have read my poetry in other journals, newspapers and magazines since years. So whenever i write a new piece they are on my mailing list and being fans and friends they decided to join the forum to provide feedback.

2. As for the similitude of language, I see no resemblance whatsoever. Many of the interactors here fiercely criticize me or find lacunae, contradictions in my arguments, some to which I respond others I ignore as they get responded to by various other interactors. Many Chowkies launched scathing comments to my previous article UK General Elections 2005. But I always give them a piece of my unfettered mind.

3. The unusual hours of the posts are because, in case you did not realise, cross-cultural global time-zone differences, get various clocks to educate yourself Beejay. Since we are in different time zones. I live in the UK so ofcourse my hours of interacting may seem odd to Chowkies in the sub-continent.

4. As for the rapid frequency of responses, LO and Behold, certain members are logged on at similar times would you believe !! and feel an urge to comment on other people`s posts as well as mine so they post 3 or even 4 interacts at the same time.

A lot of what you asked me is mere common sense. Utilise it. It has been bestowed to you for a reason Beejay.

I would appreciate constructive comments on the article itself and not a self-stylized baselessly inept Sherlock Holmes inquiry.
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#37 Posted by drlokraj on May 13, 2005 11:55:26 am
ozer,
very well written indeed.
I bet,you are actually a poet!
Keep it up. Much more like this will be awaited.
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#39 Posted by OzerKhalid on May 13, 2005 7:09:40 pm
Re: # 37

Dr Lokraj

Profound thanks for your feedback. How did you interpret ``dusk`` ?
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#35 Posted by Sul on May 13, 2005 5:18:19 am
Ozer.

Great piece. At the risk of sounding somewhat pretentious (bygones in any event!), and not wishing to delve into the distant literary past, the style of this article reminds me of David Mitchell. Kudos.

This piece illuminates in vibrant detail how the transcendental reality is obscured by the echoes of our monotony; rendered opaque by the machiavellian machinations of today`s actors. The irreverential style is endearing in both its relation to the insidious vagaries of post-modernism and the sharply ironic metaphorical tip of the hat to it.

The paradox created by the vivid description of colour that evokes images of a resplendent, multi-textured world juxtaposed by reference to time and the fading light is excellent.

But the question remains. Who is the inspiration for this? At a guess I would veer away from the suggestions of others that this is a romantic personal entanglement. And for all the Kafka/ Sartre comparisons, it strikes me as shocking that your readers take the ``girl`` so literally and don`t see her as the device she is. How banal.

Aside: For those of you who see depression in his writing, it may be haunting, but don`t transpose your own insecurities to his literature. Its too revealing!
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