Farzana Versey May 5, 2005
#65 Posted by urbashi on May 10, 2005 9:15:19 am
Re: # 54
No, I hadn`t read your earlier interact, actually (#19) - that seems to be a normal, sensible one. I really should have read that one too before going through this one, certainly.
And I wasn`t being personal, only pointing out that your views in that particular (later) interact seemed to be completely unscientific and non-medical. Read your own interact again to see why I interpreted your comments in the way I did. My point is that it`s being simplistic to attribute psychiatric causes to the fact that some persons commit adultery in situations where other persons can avoid that. Of course you are free to air your views - we all are - it`s only because you`re a psychiatrist that I responded to your views. There are several other interactors whose ideas/attitudes might seem quite reprehensible/oddball/whatever, but one expects a psychiatrist, who`s a medical specialist, to be a little more circumspect. Of course, it`s also wrong to expect a psychiatrist to be politically correct all the time - he`s also human, with his own prejudices, biases, etc.
No, I hadn`t read your earlier interact, actually (#19) - that seems to be a normal, sensible one. I really should have read that one too before going through this one, certainly.
And I wasn`t being personal, only pointing out that your views in that particular (later) interact seemed to be completely unscientific and non-medical. Read your own interact again to see why I interpreted your comments in the way I did. My point is that it`s being simplistic to attribute psychiatric causes to the fact that some persons commit adultery in situations where other persons can avoid that. Of course you are free to air your views - we all are - it`s only because you`re a psychiatrist that I responded to your views. There are several other interactors whose ideas/attitudes might seem quite reprehensible/oddball/whatever, but one expects a psychiatrist, who`s a medical specialist, to be a little more circumspect. Of course, it`s also wrong to expect a psychiatrist to be politically correct all the time - he`s also human, with his own prejudices, biases, etc.
#66 Posted by Naqshbandi on May 10, 2005 10:19:39 am
Re: # 64
ignoramus, it is not permissible in islam to enslave free muslim women and men...only non-muslim captives of war could be made concubines or those already born into slavery...
ignoramus, it is not permissible in islam to enslave free muslim women and men...only non-muslim captives of war could be made concubines or those already born into slavery...
#67 Posted by sattar2 on May 10, 2005 11:23:13 am
Naqsh,
... but what if there aren’t enough concubines to go around? Should the ummah keep waging wars to ensure a constant supply of infidel virgins? Would it be alright if the US marines take Iraqi women as their concubines?? Dude … don’t be so quick to justify this lopsided view of yours.
POWs too deserve to be treated with dignity. Islam teaches us that POWs should be fed first, and then the muslim army can have their meal. How do you start from here, and end up with turning POWs into concubines?
Protecting your sisters while violating infidel women … is hypocrisy. Views of your ullema are scary ... god only knows what they would do to minorities if given a chance.
#68 Posted by EinZeitgeist on May 10, 2005 8:21:19 pm
Re: # 29
Have been going through the whole buffoonry of interactioins here. But this one beats all. I am not holding Farzana`s brief here. But whether she is, or not. Whose business is it. Sickening!
Have been going through the whole buffoonry of interactioins here. But this one beats all. I am not holding Farzana`s brief here. But whether she is, or not. Whose business is it. Sickening!
#69 Posted by EinZeitgeist on May 10, 2005 8:46:05 pm
Re: # 27
Not just an emotion. IT IS THE FOOD OF LOVE(emotionally). apetite, hunger (physically) SEX that`s what it is. It has it`s own dimensions.
Both man and woman are naturally polygamous. In case of woman, it is insecurity instilled in her, which brings on the veil of a monogamous nature. Man has always used his physical power to put woman in servitude. What is adultry, anyway? The fear or hate of the other woman is one more example how man has made woman his `slave`. Woman against woman. Great. We all need to revisit Marx.
Morality or morals are beyond trivialities of sex and alcohol. But the MULLAH would of course always be one up. For us it begins and ends in both.
Does any one here believe in the ``rule of harm``?
How long can a man go on eating ``murghi`` day in and day out; for that amtter how long can a woman be made to eat a ``mugha``, for the rest of her life.
Not just an emotion. IT IS THE FOOD OF LOVE(emotionally). apetite, hunger (physically) SEX that`s what it is. It has it`s own dimensions.
Both man and woman are naturally polygamous. In case of woman, it is insecurity instilled in her, which brings on the veil of a monogamous nature. Man has always used his physical power to put woman in servitude. What is adultry, anyway? The fear or hate of the other woman is one more example how man has made woman his `slave`. Woman against woman. Great. We all need to revisit Marx.
Morality or morals are beyond trivialities of sex and alcohol. But the MULLAH would of course always be one up. For us it begins and ends in both.
Does any one here believe in the ``rule of harm``?
How long can a man go on eating ``murghi`` day in and day out; for that amtter how long can a woman be made to eat a ``mugha``, for the rest of her life.
#70 Posted by EinZeitgeist on May 10, 2005 8:53:35 pm
Re: # 63
Thank your stars you live in New Jersey. You r just fretting over losing on alimony. Here they take take your genitalia out.
Thank your stars you live in New Jersey. You r just fretting over losing on alimony. Here they take take your genitalia out.
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