2005 UK General Elections

Ozerkhalid

Don`t you think the way every discussion on this site ends up in a hindu-muslim trashfest, tawdry?.

In addition to interact #50, i left out the LIBRARY BAR at Taj President hotel and RESTOPUB ONYX a great drinking-eating-partying venue.There`s also GEOFFREY`S in Back Bay.`SUZIE WONG`` is the only floating bar in Mumbai.You can catch a boat at H2O Water Sports Complex and get there.Great views of the Mumbai skyline..The best pastime in mumbai is to buy booze at your local liquor store and head out with friends and get wasted, ofcourse.In India all recreation is available at reasonable prices or what the pocket will bear.Goa and Kerala are the two party states of india, due to the beautiful climate, beaches ,pubs/clubs and tourist traffic from all over the globe.Cut and paste these links and check out Mumbai.......

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=198981&page=5&pp=20

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=164579

cheers

cayenne

#53 by Zakkk on May 9, 2005 10:56am PT


Why are Bangladeshis in the UK at the bottom of the South Asian Socio-economic ladder?


who said bangladeshis don`t care more about pan-Islamic causes like Iraq?


Bangladesh is a secular country and has not had a chronic rivalry with India either?


strawman...I never claimed India being secular or Pakistan having a rivalry with India was the cause for the state brit-pakis find themselves in....

This isn`t about their home countries....This is about the brit-pakis/hindus/sikhs...don`t you think it makes more sense for them to vote based on more important things...like education or health care? And if their votes on Iraq are driven solely by their concern for human suffering, why were they silent when saddam was butchering iraqis?

I love that twisted logic..Pakis lag behind Hindus because ..(implied) they are Muslim..or too obsessed with Pan islamic causes..if that was so true..why are Bangladeshis in the UK at the bottom of the South Asian Socio-economic ladder? Bangladesh is a secular country and has not had a chronic rivalry with India either?

Selective application of evidence is a common nasty tactic of Islamophobes...

ozer khalid good article and welcome to chowk

I myself was a lifelong supporter of labour this time i voted liberal democrats, mainly because of iraq war. we`ve been hearing for last 2 years that gordon brown will topple him, the problem is Blair is a slick oxford educated lawer he seems to have a talent of talking his way out of trouble,(unlike his tongue-tied buddy bush) he could sell ` ice to eskimos`.
I noticed this time he was keeping a low profile, i think it`s only a question of time before gordon topples him.

cayenne
Britain still has some of the best universities remember DNA was discovered here so was CLONING dolly the sheep.

#46 by ozerkhalid on May 9, 2005 8:50am PT


Of course you would not dream of giving an iota of importance to the thousands of innocent Iraqi mothers and children getting pillaged and slaughtered by foreign troops?


enough of the ``oh we`re just driven by the sufferings of our fellow human beings`` already

When the pakistani army slaughtered millions of bangladeshis, was that the number issue for brit-pakistanis at that time?

When saddam hussein killed ``thousands of Iraqi mothers and children``, was military action to stop that killing the number one issue for brit-pakistanis?

No...? Didn`t think so....

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For `theme ` clubs in Mumbai, `Olive` and ``Suzy Wong``...good music more western than desi.My favorites are ENIGMA, a night/dance club at the JW Marriot in Juhu.Rs.1000.00 entry fee, music is a mix of western and hindi pop and ATHENA,a lounge, restaurant, nightclub, and bar all in one, and the younger generation of Bollywood celebrities and models love to hang out here, so this is the place to hang with Mumbai`s trendiest. If one is gay , Voodoo is the main hang out.There are hundreds of bars/pubs and over fifty dance clubs in Mumbai , atleast.Some of the clubs, worth mention, and i`ve been to them , are FIRE AND ICE,INSOMNIA,RAZZBERRY RHINOCEROS(kinda named after my Mrs. when she`s dressed up to attend a wedding), and , VELOCITY.

In Colaba, CAFE MONDEGAR and LEOPOLD`s are for the social set.A little too trendy for me.Copa Cabana ia another place, quite desi-texmex though.These are the lounge bar`s that i like, tho` i`m not into lounge bars a whole lot.I`ll leave you with a quote from a famous person..... ``Nightlife in Mumbai provides an enthralling experience and that one could only understand by actually exploring it``.

Ozer Khalid

But you didnt explain what the crimson sun was all about?

Ozer, pointing to the rise of communalist politics is not trouble making. That is the mentality of the ostrich with the head in the sand, shooting the messenger. Communal politics of the Respect kind threatens Multicultural amity, not me. Widescale election fraud threatens democracy, not me.

Saj1981

The process was started by the Rushdie affair. That is when the Asian community started breaking down into groups, because Muslims started priveliging their religious identity over their ethnic one. The impetus came from that. You cant blame this on colonial divide and rule...nobody is holding a gun to Pakistani`s heads when they say they consider their identity to be British Muslim rather than British Asian. It is their conscious choice. Now Sikhs and Hindus want the same. This is religious politics and communalism and its the future.

ozerkhalid,
It is ok to express concern for the situation in Iraq. But to vote for a party just because of their stand on iraq instead of the things that affect your daily life, is carrying it a bit too far. If I was a Brit, then I would have voted against Tony Blair only if there the British casualities were large, which has not happened.

Re: # 45

Cayenne,

Point taken with a pinch of salt. Since you do mention the industry i work in, that of night-life/entertainment, any suggestions on the hippest dance clubs in Mumbai ?

Re: # 41

Arjun

Of course you would not dream of giving an iota of importance to the thousands of innocent Iraqi mothers and children getting pillaged and slaughtered by foreign troops?
Surely more than a “tinge” of neo-fascism on your part amigo?

#37 by ozerkhalid on May 9, 2005 7:49am PT
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Cayenne
You are a living paradox. Yet again contradicting yourself.

ozerkhalid,

You`re giving me goosebumps talking to me like that!!!!.And, i`ve been in a slump ever since they closed the dance bars in Mumbai.You think i should see my shrink??.

Regards,

cayenne

Re: # 36

Urstruly

Compelling as it may sound, this perhaps is one conspiracy theory taken too far in the case of Britain. The conservative religious-right of Republican penchant hold much more sway across the Atlantic !

Re: # 30

Fuzair

It is noteworthy to observe how you take into account the ``latent`` calculations or ``Machiavellian machinations`` going on behind the scenes, based on pricing parity which reflect more acutely the figures. Cayenne kindly do take note.

Sound analysis by Fuzair.

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Zakkk and Sajj

Right-wing extremism and xenophobia as both of you poignantly observe, have contemptuously ripened their seeds in Europe. Whilst in the UK inroads have been built for the deplorable BNP anorexics, not too long ago Jean-Marie Le Pen`s Front National nearly took France to an electoral slaughter-house.

Unfortunately this omni-present racial cancer has spread through the European veins far a field. From Italy`s post-fascist National Alliance`s Gianfranco Fini and the Northern League`s Umberto Bossi, to Austria`s far right Freedom Party megalomaniac Joerg Haider.

It is only hoped that forgiving gravitational forces will pull down this torrid tidal wave of anger.

And have it sunk deeper than the Titanic.

#29 by Saj1981 on May 9, 2005 6:02am PT


then came the breakdown into various national groupings....and the last 5-6 years especially has seen the rise of breaking down on religious lines...British hindus...sikhs...muslims..etc etc.


why is that surprising....most brit-hindus and sikhs don`t list the war in Iraq or support for jihad in Kashmir as their number one issue....

Re: # 16

Arjun

Truth be told the most famous Pakistani in Britain by far is Sir Anwar Pervaiz, a savyy businessman who went from rags to riches and stands as an exemplary benchmark for all South Asian aspirants on these shores.