2005 UK General Elections

#61 by ozerkhalid on May 9, 2005 4:52pm PT


Has your head been buried so deep in the Saharan sand that you did not take heed that Brit-Pakistanis, Brit-Hindus, Indian and Pakistani diplomats campaigned head-strong round the clock and relentlessly for years to push forward multi-lateral legislation against Saddam and his brutalities: to cite but a few concrete examples:


The odd brit-paki diplomat working against saddam is not the same as the vast number of brit-pakis marching in the streets..or voting primarily based on that issue...

I`m sure there were some brit-paki diplomats who worked with blair on the dossier or whatever lies he used to push the war...should we take that to mean the vast majority of brit-pakis were in favor of the iraq war?

Tell me how many brit-paki parliament members sponsored resolutions against saddam hussein when he was killing iraqis?


Please be informed before waxing lyrical.


Please post some links on brit-pakis making saddam`s opression or the genocide in rawanda the number one issue when that happened...

I`ll repeat so it`s clear: The vast majority of brit-pakistanis didn`t care when saddam was murdering iraqi mothers and children....or when rawandan mothers and children were being murdered....when that happened, it wasn`t their number one issue....

So please excuse me for not believing that brit-pakis were motivated by concerns for the sufferings of their fellow humans...

#60 by Zakkk on May 9, 2005 4:34pm PT


and as the decision to go to war effects millions of people it supersedes debates on education and health..


Education policy and health policy effects millions...millions of brits...including brit-pakis...this is absolutely about pan-Islamism...Most brit-pakis are against the war in Afghanistan too...


I could quote them to you..but I really wouldn`t wanna burst your Islamophobe bubble...


Umm...why don`t you quote them and actually burst the bubble...

and another thing...pakistan is not the same as islam...saying brit-pakistanis are more prone to terrorism is not the same as saying brit-muslims are more prone to terrorism...nice try tho...

ozerkhalid,
The manifesto looks good to me. But then I don`t live in UK so cannot say for sure if they really have achieved what they have claimed to have achieved.

thunder,
Britain seems to have an uneasy relationship with EU. Seems like if the crunch point comes when they have to choose between EU and USA, they almost always choose USA. I guess its because they share the same heritage.

spiritualgypsy,
Tony Blair seems to have done a decent job with everthing else. I mean look at their NHS. It does not seem to be as bad some in the press have made it out to be, and if it had been left to the conservatives, they would have sold it out.

Re: # 64

Pakistanis outperform Bengalis and people of Afro-Carribean background..Pakistanis are outperformed by Indians ( regardless of whther they are Hindus, Muslims or Sikhs)..but Pakistanis do better when you exclude the Mirpuri community..

As far as the justification of the war..Saddam should have been toppled..but for the right reasons..what was done..in the end was purely for neoconservative idealogues...and one shouldn`t kid themselves into thinking it had any humanitarian motives..

Those who oppose Islamists should in fact have opposed the war..as a result of this war there is an Islamist wave sweeping the Arab world which is far more anti american...

Re: # 74

cayenne

when the cards of the trip to london have been placed on the poker table give me a shout (my details including e-mail are on my profile) and we can partayy !

Re: # 58
Ozer K

You`re welcome.Pounds into rupees means party time in india for ye.I have a cousin , born in the UK, and i have visited there many times, tho` not in the last seven years.Started working!!.Actually, my cousin visits more often bringing with him a whole group of his limey friends and many of them never want to return , or do so reluctantly, after enjoying themselves here.With more private airlines operating from india, airfares should start coming down, so a trip to London is definitely on the cards for me.Right now it costs the same whether one flies from New Delhi to Cochin or to Singapore!!!.Guess where the janta will head?.

Well, back to the `serious` discussion of the Uk elections.For you!!.

cayenne

Re: # 14

theo what do you feel should be done with pakistanis in britain ?

should they be deported ?

is that the assumption by you and the judge ?

Re: # 29

sajj

what concrete steps and tangible ones can Asians living in britain take to foster multi-culturalism ?

Re: # 57

vivek what do you feel blair has brought to the table ?

Re: # 15

Theo

what about communalism amongst hindus jewish and bengali contingencies ? surely those need to be taken into account ?

Re: # 36

urstruly

could you name a few evangelist organisations in the uk and what are their beliefs ?

Re: # 35

syke

what dirty tactics did galloway actually deploy ?

Re: # 45

cayenne are you attracted to this ozer or are you in rivalry ? you guys started lashing out at each other and now you are getting goose-bumps ? sarcasm surely ?

Re: # 54

Arjun

what about all the campaigning the british pakistanis did against saddam ? infront of embassies around the world, the US , the UK, there were massive rallies in London against Saddam ? how can you overlook that ?

Re: # 57

vivek

surely the UK does not depend entirely on the US for its bread and butter? what about its allainces with the EU, and the Commonwealth, its own home-grown industries, its imports and exports ?

do you not feel that tony blair was acting as a lap dog for the US and was coerced into war ?

Re: # 60

Zakkk

how do British-Pakistanis fare in the literacy rates as compared to other ethnic minorities such as Indians, Bengalis, Jamaicans, West Indians etc ?

since no moral justification was given in the UK, if any can be given at all, regarding war in Iraq do you feel it was necessary ?