Fauzia’s Rejection

great....simply fabulous..!!
this society forces girls like fauzia to take such steps...and this sort of bullshits like:
hieght,,colour...i mean...i duno when the thinking of our ppl & especially the so called educated boys working in gud companies ..ready for "perfect marriage"..will change..huh

i have three words for you ...!!
short ,clear, ...and nice

it`s like a smallest love story i once read.
a guy asked a girl,``would you like to marry me ?``
she replied,``NO``
and they lived happily every after.!

Hi Bismil...great one,,,,welll it was very obvious that none of the paki guys would like it hehehehehhe,,,,,,well it showed......any ways,,,,its soo true,,,,,when some of you say that she should have faced the reality.....then she did she came back and started the process again and refused the guyss....welll to be honest she did the best given wht ever oportunity she got.....

welll some of u r right that to go out get a degree and job is not dificult in pakistan,,we dont have to go out....but its about opportunity,,,she got it she took it....

welll dont know wht to comment on the system as it sucks big time,,,,auntys going and searching for girl....its like a business go visit people and have free tea or meals...heheheh...any ways GOD bless every one.

scout betay tum say asay he article kee umeed thee

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She married John who loved her for what she was.So what you are implying is that people who are happily married in the East(there are quite a few) do not love their spouses or do not love them for what they are.Interesting observation but I beg to differ.It looks like the scribe has too much on his/her mind to actually bother with the ending,it sort feels hurried.So all the women who are dark should marry westerners and come back home with wonderful,bi-racial children.What a perfect solution to the endless dowries,nosey in-laws.Excellent solution!!!

it was a bit abrupt. perhaps the anticlimax is meant to be somehwat abrupt but its a bit tOO abrupt...

Re: # 311 by ZahraJ

``I strongly believe that individuals ought to thrive as individuals first and then assigned into any cultural or religious denominations.``

A noble notion indeed. However, I do wish you`d think about it in realistic terms vis-a-vis

- nature of human being
- his/her purpose in life
- his/her general behvior, needs, and wants
- his/her control over surroundings
- his/her belief systems and the need for those
- The Supernatural and paranormal forces and their influences, etc.

M`asSalaam to you and your loved ones. :-)~~

Re: # 310 by sajal

I`m very glad for you that you are your own person.

My original impression of you was that of an independant and passionate person, with a knack for nothing but the truth and fairness. But it was shaken on this board. I hope the original impression is restored soon.

``I however, do not believe in blindly following anybody or anything rather use my mind which Allah gave me to use!!!!!``

Splendid!

I hope you will also incorporate NOT bashing anybody or anything blindly in your personality, and speak out against injustice even if your blood carries the guilt. For reasons I wouldn`t want to hazard a guess anymore, you failed to do that here.

Caution: the preceding statement may be more loaded than your own, so please think about it.

Please don`t be offended or feel patronized, but unlike most women here your passion reminds me of my sisters - most of them very strong independant professional ``Muslim`` women in deeds; then your innocence in some matters creates the image of my young daughter before my eyes. As it is I`m guilt-ridden for chastising you. Please forgive me for the hurt I have caused you.

I pray you grow to be a stronger, more beautiful, most independant woman you hold the promise for, like my sisters.

May Allah keep you in His Guidance and Protection.

M`asSalaam to you and your loved ones.

This is an amazing board full of interesting perspectives. The most amusing perspectives dealt with certain expectations and the fear of either losing or ignoring those expectations. I strongly believe that individuals ought to thrive as individuals first and then assigned into any cultural or religious denominations.

RE# NT sahib,

I don`t belong to any group or ``ILK`` as u kindly put it.

I agree to reasonable arguments put forth by either men or women. I however, do not believe in blindly following anybody or anything rather use my mind which Allah gave me to use!!!!!

Re: # 307

Amrita,

outbound/inbound traffic - perhaps you should assess the essence of this point in my post again.

1- it is possible that you never met anyone going to Iran because they are on the other side of the road, i.e. outbound traffic, TO Iran, i.e. you may be on the wrong side of the tracks to find the people who wish to live in Iran, or at least facing the wrong way and hoping someone will bump into you from behind.

2- it is common for every country to have a segment of population that does not like the system, vis-a-vis the Iranians you know. They have their ilk in Pakistan, India, KSA, et al. ``Progressives``, ``liberals``, ``democrats`` and ``chalabis`` are but different names of these groups. As for why the Iranian kind of this bunch doesn`t want to go back to Iran, only Allah knows best, but their stories (true or false) certainly seem to justify their move.

You may even find some Americans or Britons or Autralians who would claim ``people vanishing in the night, about a lack of freedom, about a lack of opportunity, about a country and a people who are slowly petrifying``; especially since 9/11. And these may not necessarily Muslims/Arabs/Pakistanis.

Mecca/Medina - that`s what I`m saying dear; that I don`t just want to ``visit`` there. You`re assuming the case to be just a visit. By Allah`s graces, I`ve done that already. I wish to live and be buried there - as close as possible to the center of the earth, the Ka`aba, or as close as possible to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his family and companions (Allah is pleased with them); regardless of rulers, rules, or anything mortal.

Indeed, Allah helps those who help themselves, and insha Allah He will help me establish myself there one day.

As for your lil digression - that`s what I`ve been saying all along: I`m making efforts to go to Makkah/Madinah and looking out for the ``boat`` that`ll carry me there.

Please feel free to let me know if you need further clarification.

:-)~~

Re: # 301

NT sahib, what a day when one person is actually grateful to another for common civility!

anyhoo - re:

outbound/inbound traffic - i see a lot of people from pakistan, india, etc who disapprove of whats taking place in their country... still eventually they have this idea that they will go home even if its just something they tell themselves out of nostalgia or homesickness. None of the Iranians I know feel that way. Its very puzzling to me because they tell me about people vanishing in the night, about a lack of freedom, about a lack of opportunity, about a country and a people who are slowly petrifying and i understand why they dont want to be there - and you tell me how things are really very different but you still dont want to be there.

Mecca/Medina - these are places every Muslim would want to go. That is not what i am concerned with. I`m talking about Iran as a lifestyle choice rather than a religious visit. Like the way so many Iranians have adopted India, for example, or even the US or UK as their country rather than just visiting Disneyworld or something [no comparison here, just an example]. I think Allah helps those who help themselves.

lil digression to illustrate point - a man hears on the radio that his house in the path of a major flood and all people in his area are advised to evacuate. he thinks, God will help me and stays put. Soon his neighbor comes along and asks him to hop a ride with him. the man refuses saying, God will help me. The floods come and the man is swept away. As he clings to a branch a man comes along on a boat and tries to help him aboard. The man refuses and says, God will help me. Finally, just before he hits a steep waterfall, rescue helicopters show up and extend a rope ladder to him. He refuses saying, God will help me. the man is swept over and is killed. On reaching heaven he asks God why He didnt help him. God says, I sent you a radio warning, a neighbor, a man in a boat and a helicopter - how much more could i help you?

Similarly...

Re: # 301

NT sahib, what a day when one person is actually grateful to another for common civility!

anyhoo - re:

outbound/inbound traffic - i see a lot of people from pakistan, india, etc who disapprove of whats taking place in their country... still eventually they have this idea that they will go home even if its just something they tell themselves out of nostalgia or homesickness. None of the Iranians I know feel that way. Its very puzzling to me because they tell me about people vanishing in the night, about a lack of freedom, about a lack of opportunity, about a country and a people who are slowly petrifying and i understand why they dont want to be there - and you tell me how things are really very different but you still dont want to be there.

Mecca/Medina - these are places every Muslim would want to go. That is not what i am concerned with. I`m talking about Iran as a lifestyle choice rather than a religious visit. Like the way so many Iranians have adopted India, for example, or even the US or UK as their country rather than just visiting Disneyworld or something [no comparison here, just an example]. I think Allah helps those who help themselves.

lil digression to illustrate point - a man hears on the radio that his house in the path of a major flood and all people in his area are advised to evacuate. he thinks, God will help me and stays put. Soon his neighbor comes along and asks him to hop a ride with him. the man refuses saying, God will help me. The floods come and the man is swept away. As he clings to a branch a man comes along on a boat and tries to help him aboard. The man refuses and says, God will help me. Finally, just before he hits a steep waterfall, rescue helicopters show up and extend a rope ladder to him. He refuses saying, God will help me. the man is swept over and is killed. On reaching heaven he asks God why He didnt help him. God says, I sent you a radio warning, a neighbor, a man in a boat and a helicopter - how much more could i help you?

Similarly...

Re: # 300

dear echoboom,

I know my friend. Second to Allah`s infinite Blessings, I`m grateful for your endorsement and relentless support.

I never doubt you and others for a moment.

Jazak-Allah

m`asSalaam to you and your loved ones